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riversedge

(81,541 posts)
Wed May 10, 2023, 03:33 PM May 2023

Feinstein returing gives Dems 11-10 edge on Judiciary Comm--they meet tomorrow........


I am keeping fingers--and toes crossed that all goes well and DF stays well.


...With Feinstein's return to the Senate, Democrats will have an 11-10 edge on the Judiciary Committee, enabling Biden's nominations to progress to the full Senate without needing a GOP vote. The committee is due to meet Thursday to consider nominations to the federal bench.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-dianne-feinstein-en-route-193846750.html
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Feinstein returing gives Dems 11-10 edge on Judiciary Comm--they meet tomorrow........ (Original Post) riversedge May 2023 OP
Time to get some subpoenas over to the SCROTUS too. FoxNewsSucks May 2023 #1
I just saw this picture of her--as she returns. omg--she does not look well riversedge May 2023 #2
Damn, I hope she's OK and up to the job we need her to do. FoxNewsSucks May 2023 #3
Your "support" of Dianne Feinstein has been duly noted. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #10
This is even worse... Nevilledog May 2023 #4
almost looks like a bit of palsy RussBLib May 2023 #8
Or a stroke. Sneederbunk May 2023 #15
It is possible that when shingles occurs, a person may develop Bell's palsy. MrsCoffee May 2023 #66
And now Dianne Feinstein is being attacked on DU for the way she looks. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #11
Are you totally incapable of seeing that she has physical effects of her illness? Nevilledog May 2023 #13
+1 Some people really need to get a grip SunImp May 2023 #14
She ought to be praised for showing up and doing her duty, as she has in her long and storied career Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #19
She showed up. +++++ Tetrachloride May 2023 #21
I don't know where you're seeing attacks on her appearance. ShazzieB May 2023 #36
I support my Senator's right to make her own choices. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #37
+1 Celerity May 2023 #34
It's an act. n/t demmiblue May 2023 #40
give it a rest RussBLib May 2023 #16
LOL. I will not give the ongoing attacks on a fine Democratic Senator "a rest." Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #17
It may be that it's distressing to see Sen. Feinstein yorkster May 2023 #24
I'm not seeing much "sympathy" for Sen. Feinstein here on DU, that's both today and in recent weeks. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #25
Being concerned about someone's health does not equal rubbishing them! ShazzieB May 2023 #38
"Concerned?" LOL Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #39
I'm VERY concerned. ShazzieB May 2023 #48
Whatever. ShazzieB May 2023 #50
Yes everybody was so 'concerned' they were running her out of town. nt GuppyGal May 2023 #47
+1 SunImp May 2023 #52
Yes. n/t demmiblue May 2023 #32
Well yes..just as she was attacked for having the audacity of getting ill. nt GuppyGal May 2023 #29
I saw that Sen. Feinstein was blamed for not getting the shingles vaccine, a charge that was made Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #30
I can't say.... GuppyGal May 2023 #31
I didn't see that myself. ShazzieB May 2023 #51
Multiple posters have blamed Feinstein for her illness and have suggested (without evidence) Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #60
I'm certainly curious whether she got the vaccine. maxsolomon May 2023 #59
Thank you. OneCrazyDiamond May 2023 #64
... Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #65
buh bye!! RandiFan1290 May 2023 #68
Yaaaaaayyyyyyy!!!!!!!! Scrivener7 May 2023 #69
Whoa! Hadn't seen the troll tombstone in a while!!! nt Carlitos Brigante May 2023 #70
HAHAHAHAHA! FoxNewsSucks May 2023 #71
Knew this dude was nothing but a troll budkin May 2023 #72
Good luck with that FBaggins May 2023 #6
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #5
Thanks for video. I needed to see that. riversedge May 2023 #7
I just saw the video on TV of her FoxNewsSucks May 2023 #12
Time to subpoena Harlan Crow. gab13by13 May 2023 #9
It looks like she got it in her eyes. maxsolomon May 2023 #18
It was Jerry2144 May 2023 #20
Ugh, I've heard that's the worst! ShazzieB May 2023 #49
Very possible Rebl2 May 2023 #22
My mother had it in one of her eyes and lost most of her vision. She was always very japple May 2023 #23
I won't. maxsolomon May 2023 #26
Good for you!!! japple May 2023 #57
Good for you - but it's not 100% effective - Ms. Toad May 2023 #74
Over 90%. maxsolomon May 2023 #75
My spouse has had shingles 4 or 5 times. Ms. Toad May 2023 #76
SWEET ColinC May 2023 #27
I think the pressure to return must have been horrendous for her, especially since the LoisB May 2023 #28
Yippee, yippee, Yea! Yea! Fla Dem May 2023 #33
+1 Celerity May 2023 #35
How are you so "sure" of what Sen. Feinstein wants when she's expressed the opposite? Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #42
Post removed Post removed May 2023 #54
This is a public forum. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #56
It never should have been 10-10 for as long as it was Tarc May 2023 #41
Few people have done a greater service for this country that Dianne Feinstein. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #43
The past is the past Tarc May 2023 #44
What baloney. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #46
Correction inthewind21 May 2023 #61
Please explain the disservice that was done? onenote May 2023 #63
There were some temporary delays Zeitghost May 2023 #73
Heartening to see the good Senator return to duty. Torchlight May 2023 #45
An observation ShazzieB May 2023 #53
No inthewind21 May 2023 #62
Can she vote for someone else to replace her on the committee ? JI7 May 2023 #55
No, IIRC the only thing she could do is resign Wednesdays May 2023 #58
It would require approval by the full chamber. MrsCoffee May 2023 #67

riversedge

(81,541 posts)
2. I just saw this picture of her--as she returns. omg--she does not look well
Wed May 10, 2023, 03:38 PM
May 2023

My jaw dropped. I hope she is better than she looks


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FoxNewsSucks

(11,919 posts)
3. Damn, I hope she's OK and up to the job we need her to do.
Wed May 10, 2023, 03:43 PM
May 2023

If she's hanging on because republicons are making it difficult or impossible to replace her, then fuck them all so much for putting her through that.

Nevilledog

(55,137 posts)
13. Are you totally incapable of seeing that she has physical effects of her illness?
Wed May 10, 2023, 04:06 PM
May 2023

Did I say she shouldn't be there?

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
19. She ought to be praised for showing up and doing her duty, as she has in her long and storied career
Wed May 10, 2023, 05:04 PM
May 2023

Instead we get comments about how she "looks."

More double standards IMO.

ShazzieB

(22,882 posts)
36. I don't know where you're seeing attacks on her appearance.
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:24 PM
May 2023

All I'm seeing in here are expressions of concern about how unwell she looks, which I happen to share.

I would rather have seen her retire a little earlier than she planned than drag herself back to Washington when she's not well, but I guess she's made her choice. 🙁

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
17. LOL. I will not give the ongoing attacks on a fine Democratic Senator "a rest."
Wed May 10, 2023, 05:02 PM
May 2023

It stinks to high heaven.

This is "supposed to be" a "pro-Democratic" website.

yorkster

(3,951 posts)
24. It may be that it's distressing to see Sen. Feinstein
Wed May 10, 2023, 05:42 PM
May 2023

looking like she's been through a very rough patch. And of course her condition is a justifiable cause for worry - for her and for all of us. The country's on the hairy edge to say the least.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
25. I'm not seeing much "sympathy" for Sen. Feinstein here on DU, that's both today and in recent weeks.
Wed May 10, 2023, 05:48 PM
May 2023

She showed up today, just like she said she would.

Meanwhile, she's been thoroughly rubbished on this website.

That doesn't sit well with this Democratic loyalist from California who respects Sen. Feinstein deeply.

Stinks!

ShazzieB

(22,882 posts)
38. Being concerned about someone's health does not equal rubbishing them!
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:30 PM
May 2023

I was glad to hear she'd decided to come back, but seeing how frail and unwell she looks has me very concerned.

I hope you understand that it's possible to respect someone and at the same time be concerned that they may be overextending themselves. Because it is.

ShazzieB

(22,882 posts)
48. I'm VERY concerned.
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:46 PM
May 2023

She seems to be intent on finishing out this term before retiring, no matter what it takes. Seeing how unwell she looks here, I question the wisdom of that decision. If she's really not up to it, I'd rather see her go ahead and retire now than watch her struggle to stay in the saddle. The choice is hers, of course. I just hope it's the right one.

I respect and admire Ms. Feinstein greatly. I also don't see any disgrace in stepping down when it's time. Declining to step down from a job one can no longer do without risking one's health is not necessarily praiseworthy.

ShazzieB

(22,882 posts)
50. Whatever.
Wed May 10, 2023, 07:09 PM
May 2023

It's clear your position is that retiring earlier than the end of the 118th Congress is an unthinkable choice. Feinstein seems to be of the same mind. Best of luck to her.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
30. I saw that Sen. Feinstein was blamed for not getting the shingles vaccine, a charge that was made
Wed May 10, 2023, 05:58 PM
May 2023

w/o evidence.

WTF is wrong with this place???

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
31. I can't say....
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:01 PM
May 2023

I'm sure I'd get an alert and a ban....but attacking Feinstein for weeks on end Is OK

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
60. Multiple posters have blamed Feinstein for her illness and have suggested (without evidence)
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:15 PM
May 2023

that the did not get a shingles vaccine.

One of many attacks on Dianne Feinstein that are way out of line.

maxsolomon

(39,127 posts)
59. I'm certainly curious whether she got the vaccine.
Thu May 11, 2023, 11:51 AM
May 2023

It would be irresponsible not to have done so when it is widely available. But I have no illusions that we'll ever learn if Feinstein did.

Is that "blame"? Not exactly.

WTF is "wrong" with this place is that Republicans are trying to turn America into an oligarchical, theocratic Autocracy and it's got a few of us on edge.

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,070 posts)
64. Thank you.
Thu May 11, 2023, 05:37 PM
May 2023

Feinstein has has already said what she is going to do. I wonder how many people who want her to resign early live in CA.

She doesn't need buzzards over her head. She has earned that from us at least.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,919 posts)
12. I just saw the video on TV of her
Wed May 10, 2023, 04:05 PM
May 2023

getting out of the car and into the wheelchair a few moments before that other picture. She looked as though the recovery was difficult, but seemed to be doing OK.

Both of the pics on this thread don't look good, but the videos are reassuring.

ShazzieB

(22,882 posts)
49. Ugh, I've heard that's the worst!
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:51 PM
May 2023

I had shingles once, but luckily for me, it was very mild and nowhere near my face. My sympathy goes out to anyone dealing with a really severe case.

japple

(10,459 posts)
23. My mother had it in one of her eyes and lost most of her vision. She was always very
Wed May 10, 2023, 05:35 PM
May 2023

stoic, but I'm sure it was much more painful than we ever knew. I think she was "only" around 82 when she had it. Also had a friend who lost her vision to ocular herpes. If you ever start feeling sharp pains, stabbing pains in/around your eyes or along the path of a nerve, please get checked ASAP for shingles/herpes. It is very important to start treatment quickly.

Ms. Toad

(38,824 posts)
74. Good for you - but it's not 100% effective -
Sun May 14, 2023, 01:58 PM
May 2023

so still keep an eye out for sharp pains (especially one-sided and especially on the face).

Ms. Toad

(38,824 posts)
76. My spouse has had shingles 4 or 5 times.
Mon May 15, 2023, 03:43 PM
May 2023

She was vaccinated after her first bout, so 3 or 4 were post-vaccination.

I just want to make sure that people who have had the vaccine don't ignore signs of shingles because they believe it is impossible for them to get shingles post-vaccination. Any delay in treatment means a longer (and potentially more dangerous) period of agony.

We've caught my spouse's early enough each time that she got on an antiviral medication early enough that it didn't even blister - and it's been in a relatively safe location on her body (trunk). And after her most recent bout triggered by COVID she was allowed to get re-vaccinated with Shingrix, since she had the earlier (less effective) vaccine. But we'll still be on the lookout for another bout.

LoisB

(13,483 posts)
28. I think the pressure to return must have been horrendous for her, especially since the
Wed May 10, 2023, 05:54 PM
May 2023

retRumplicans would not allow a replacement for her on the Judiciary Committee. I have much respect for our beloved DiFi.

Fla Dem

(27,772 posts)
33. Yippee, yippee, Yea! Yea!
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:04 PM
May 2023

Although I feel for Sen Feinstein. I'm sure she did not want to return in the current condition, but knew it was either return or resign. She has served her country well. I hope after this session she does resign with dignity and grace.

Celerity

(54,878 posts)
35. +1
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:13 PM
May 2023
I'm sure she did not want to return in the current condition, but knew it was either return or resign
 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
42. How are you so "sure" of what Sen. Feinstein wants when she's expressed the opposite?
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:34 PM
May 2023

She's said all along she wanted to return as soon as possible, now she has.

But the goalposts have once again moved.

Nothing changes.

Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #42)

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
56. This is a public forum.
Wed May 10, 2023, 08:03 PM
May 2023

I can respond to whomever I wish to respond to. That doesn't make you a
"target" on a discussion board.

Suggesting I "follow you around the board" is falsely impugning that I have ulterior motives. You really ought to self-delete.





Tarc

(10,602 posts)
41. It never should have been 10-10 for as long as it was
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:33 PM
May 2023

A disservice was done to the American public. If this happens again, a fresh Democratic face should be ready to step up.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
43. Few people have done a greater service for this country that Dianne Feinstein.
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:36 PM
May 2023

This is so wrong on so many levels.

Tarc

(10,602 posts)
44. The past is the past
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:39 PM
May 2023

We're living in the now, and cannot afford to have judicial nominations held up like this again.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
46. What baloney.
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:43 PM
May 2023

Are you are the Democrats could not seat another member under the Senate rules if Feinstein resigned?

What you are arguing for would damage our agenda in very profound ways.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
61. Correction
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:40 PM
May 2023

We could not afford to let judicial nominations go to the republicans in 2016. But I digress. Oh but now, it's an emergency. Enough of one to call for the ouster of a a sitting D senator because the people failed to stop the problem before it started. Got it.

onenote

(46,228 posts)
63. Please explain the disservice that was done?
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:58 PM
May 2023

Her absence didn't slow down the confirmation of judges. Indeed, during her absence, the full Senate confirmed 21 nominees -- more than had been confirmed in any comparable period of time during the Biden presidency.

And the Committee advanced eight nominees in her absence.

The major contributing factor to judges not being confirmed isn't that they've been held up in Committee. It's that Schumer allowed a backlog to develop of nominees that already were approved by the Committee even though the Democrats have a majority without Feinstein's vote. A further contributing factor is that there are 40 vacancies for which President Biden hasn't nominated anyone. Going into today's Judiciary Committee meeting, there were 16 nominees that hadn't been acted on by the Committee. Four of them were nominated last week and haven't had a hearing yet, a few others were nominated in March or April and are waiting for a hearing. There are a few that have been held up by blue slip objections from Republicans. And there are a couple that have been held up because there are objections from Democrats (for example, Michael Delaney ).

And another fact that you seem to be unaware of -- during the time Feinstein was absent, the Senate was only in session for 30 days.

So tell me, with specifics, what disservice was done?

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
73. There were some temporary delays
Fri May 12, 2023, 08:46 PM
May 2023

that are now being cleared. Many already cleared through committee are still awaiting confirmation from the Senate.

Nothing negative happened while she was out, other than Ro Khanna showing themselves for the vultures they are.

These temporary illnesses have happened as long as we have had Senators. Nobody on the left thought Sen Biden should resign when he was gone for 7 months, nobody on the left called for Fetterman to resign when he was dealing with his illness.

Torchlight

(7,059 posts)
45. Heartening to see the good Senator return to duty.
Wed May 10, 2023, 06:40 PM
May 2023

I wish her all the best (which is about as bad as 'thoughts & prayers', but it's all I got).

ShazzieB

(22,882 posts)
53. An observation
Wed May 10, 2023, 07:46 PM
May 2023

There seem to be some very widely differing opinions here about what constitutes an "attack." I personally have not seen any "attacks" on Dianne Feinstein, as I understand the word. I can't swear there haven't been any, since there's no way to be sure I've read every single post in every single thread. But I certainly don't recall seeing any.

Those who are seeing attacks everywhere will likely continue to do so. That is unfortunate, but there's nothing I can do about it.

I wish Ms. Feinstein nothing but the best and hope that her decision to return to the Senate rather than take an early retirement turns out to be for the best, for her and for the country. Can I get an amen up in here?

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
62. No
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:43 PM
May 2023

Attack means attack no matter what ones "understanding" of the word is. If you didn't see them, you weren't paying attention.

Wednesdays

(23,129 posts)
58. No, IIRC the only thing she could do is resign
Thu May 11, 2023, 11:32 AM
May 2023

and allow the governor to appoint her replacement. (on edit): And it would be up to Schumer who would replace her on the committee.

I don't see that happening in the foreseeable future.

MrsCoffee

(5,825 posts)
67. It would require approval by the full chamber.
Thu May 11, 2023, 07:22 PM
May 2023

Any changes in committee assignments must be approved by the full chamber and could be subject to a filibuster.

We would need 60 votes and we only have 51.

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