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CNN chucked another dagger into the heart of our democracy tonight. (Original Post) boston bean May 2023 OP
They are a business. They're just not really into us - or truth. NewHendoLib May 2023 #1
I quit watching while Chris Cuomo was still there. dchill May 2023 #2
I saw snippets of it on MSNBC wryter2000 May 2023 #3
@JoyceWhiteVance 2 minutes did me in. Literally. I have never been so frightened for our country. riversedge May 2023 #4
TY rivers.. Of Course I didn't watch. Cha May 2023 #7
Hi. I did not watch either and just saw a few clips. As I said-I take Joyce's word for it. riversedge May 2023 #18
FWIW, anyone who has cable with a package that includes CNN is subsidizing this whether they RockRaven May 2023 #5
I have Verizon Fios. Really want to drop them after this. Marius25 May 2023 #6
Dropped cable 2 years ago The Unmitigated Gall May 2023 #12
This was alarming Johnny2X2X May 2023 #8
people know all they need to know about Trump. a townhall doesn't change anything BlueWaveNeverEnd May 2023 #9
He's not looking to win over voters. He's looking to further radicalize his supporters... W_HAMILTON May 2023 #24
He's running for President Johnny2X2X May 2023 #26
No, he doesn't need to come off that way. Once again, I hate to break it to YOU... W_HAMILTON May 2023 #27
CNN is on its knees tenderly licking the diarrhea off tRump's gold toilet Blue Owl May 2023 #10
Yeah, I don't see how they Cha May 2023 #19
Taking the low road usually doesn't end well.... Blue Owl May 2023 #20
Fucking Cheers to That! Cha May 2023 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author GuppyGal May 2023 #11
They learned nothing from the first time they did this iemanja May 2023 #13
I think this is the wrong idea... WarGamer May 2023 #14
Mince words however you like, CNN only helped us regress AWAY from the ideal of democracy... Silent3 May 2023 #15
the American people have the final say... WarGamer May 2023 #16
And so? Silent3 May 2023 #22
And Trump is trying to radicalize his supporters so that they have the final say. W_HAMILTON May 2023 #25
Not at all. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #17
Don't give CNN that kind of power GenThePerservering May 2023 #23

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
3. I saw snippets of it on MSNBC
Wed May 10, 2023, 09:45 PM
May 2023

It sounded like they used a laugh track. The shit that audience was laughing at was disgusting.

riversedge

(80,810 posts)
4. @JoyceWhiteVance 2 minutes did me in. Literally. I have never been so frightened for our country.
Wed May 10, 2023, 09:46 PM
May 2023

I trust Joyce. Must be pretty bad. No, I did not watch but did see a few vile Trump clips from the town hall



@JoyceWhiteVance
2 minutes did me in. Literally. I have never been so frightened for our country.


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riversedge

(80,810 posts)
18. Hi. I did not watch either and just saw a few clips. As I said-I take Joyce's word for it.
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:42 AM
May 2023

RockRaven

(19,375 posts)
5. FWIW, anyone who has cable with a package that includes CNN is subsidizing this whether they
Wed May 10, 2023, 09:49 PM
May 2023

watch or not. Same with FUX.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
6. I have Verizon Fios. Really want to drop them after this.
Wed May 10, 2023, 09:55 PM
May 2023

I like having MSNBC, but don't want CNN or Fox on my channel list.

Johnny2X2X

(24,207 posts)
8. This was alarming
Wed May 10, 2023, 09:57 PM
May 2023

But it was not a good night for Trump. He doubled down in crazy. He did not win back any votes tonight.

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(14,247 posts)
9. people know all they need to know about Trump. a townhall doesn't change anything
Wed May 10, 2023, 10:00 PM
May 2023

the only change would happen if Trump happened to behave presidential... never gonna happen

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
24. He's not looking to win over voters. He's looking to further radicalize his supporters...
Thu May 11, 2023, 02:52 AM
May 2023

...into going even further than they did on January 6th so that voters are irrelevant.

CNN giving him free air time and doing the same sort of shit they did to help him get elected in 2016 is a disgrace.

As many have said, democracy suffered yet another blow tonight.

Johnny2X2X

(24,207 posts)
26. He's running for President
Thu May 11, 2023, 08:03 AM
May 2023

I hate to break it to you, but candidates from Major parties get hundreds and hundreds of hours of free air time. He's going to be covered endlessly the next 18 months.

While I thought the format was garbage, there is no avoiding Trump and his band of traiterous MAGAs.

He did not come off like a reasonable alternative to Biden, and that's what he needed to do.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
27. No, he doesn't need to come off that way. Once again, I hate to break it to YOU...
Thu May 11, 2023, 11:09 AM
May 2023

...but he has abandoned the democratic way. He has shown that. He doesn't need voters now. It matters not one bit to him whether he comes off as a "reasonable alternative" to Biden. He's well past that point. There is no changing the viewpoint in the minds of the typical voter. He's far too gone from that. But that's not his goal. He showed you his goal on January 6th and afterwards. What he has plans for, he doesn't need voters. He just needs his supporters and he needs them even more radicalized and extreme and willing to do whatever it takes this time around to install him as president.

And to that end, CNN giving him free air time only hurts our democracy and shames themselves in the process.

It was a terrible night for democracy.

Blue Owl

(59,106 posts)
10. CNN is on its knees tenderly licking the diarrhea off tRump's gold toilet
Wed May 10, 2023, 10:26 PM
May 2023

Fuck those propaganda whores

Cha

(319,076 posts)
19. Yeah, I don't see how they
Thu May 11, 2023, 01:07 AM
May 2023

could Grovel to the Sexual Assault Predator any more.. But I'm guessing they'll find a way.

Fucking Pimps for Propaganda Ratings.

May it Blow up in their Fucking Fascism Promoting Face.

Blue Owl

(59,106 posts)
20. Taking the low road usually doesn't end well....
Thu May 11, 2023, 01:15 AM
May 2023

So here’s to the new propaganda network’s rapid demise, and indeed — may it blow up in their sleazy, evil-enabling goddamned face!!!

Response to boston bean (Original post)

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
13. They learned nothing from the first time they did this
Wed May 10, 2023, 11:31 PM
May 2023

They are happy to repeat it and put a sexual assailant, coup plotter, and instigator of murder in the White House.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
14. I think this is the wrong idea...
Wed May 10, 2023, 11:31 PM
May 2023

Democracy is an ideal... Democracy is a vision.

The US isn't a Democracy and I DO NOT mean that in the "it's a Republic" way...

The US has never been a fair and equal country with the power in the hands of the people.

So... Democracy is an ideal to make progress TOWARDS...

We're in a "tug of war" in this country.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
15. Mince words however you like, CNN only helped us regress AWAY from the ideal of democracy...
Wed May 10, 2023, 11:41 PM
May 2023

...rather than make progress TOWARDS it with their propagandistic Trump shitshow.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
22. And so?
Thu May 11, 2023, 01:31 AM
May 2023

The American people are vulnerable to propaganda techniques. The American people are poorly served in making informed choices when media companies like CNN push propaganda like this so-called "Town Hall" with Trump.

The fact that the American people ever put Trump in the White House even once is more than enough to question their wisdom. The fact that, having already once seen Trump serve as President once, we can't absolutely, categorically rule out the American people electing Trump a second time is terrifying.

Do you wish to try to dull or dismiss that terror with yet another bland observation?

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
25. And Trump is trying to radicalize his supporters so that they have the final say.
Thu May 11, 2023, 02:54 AM
May 2023

Not voters.

And that's why CNN giving this cretin air time is so dangerous.

His aim is not to win over voters. It doesn't matter if he came off terribly to the average person, because he's always come off terribly to the average person.

His aim is to radicalize and push further to the extreme his supporters so that they will go even further than simply voting to support him.

How you and some others on the left haven't realized this, I have no clue.

Trump got what he wanted tonight.

And CNN should be ashamed for helping him accomplish that.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
17. Not at all.
Thu May 11, 2023, 12:27 AM
May 2023

CNN did what a free press in a liberal democracy ought to do.

The shined a light on Trump's narcissism and total dishonesty.

American's will rightfully flee from this chaos agent.

GenThePerservering

(3,379 posts)
23. Don't give CNN that kind of power
Thu May 11, 2023, 02:32 AM
May 2023

It was an obviously staged spectacle with a hand-picked audience who were no better than mindless high school boys who suck up to the school bully and guffaw at everything he says. Only they're supposedly adults. I know - I grew up around people like this.

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