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LetMyPeopleVote

(179,919 posts)
Thu May 11, 2023, 02:45 PM May 2023

Trump does his defense attorneys no favors with town hall event

CNN's feeble ratings for this event were boosted by all of the prosecutors and attorneys watching this event for admissions or confessions by TFG. Statements made by TFG at this event can and will be used against TFG in the various prosecutions and other proceedings.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-defense-attorneys-no-favors-town-hall-event-rcna83898?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma&taid=645d03189038670001557251&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

It’s an important and underappreciated dimension to what transpired in New Hampshire last night. When you’re the subject of multiple ongoing criminal investigations, defense attorneys tend to agree that it’s best not to talk a whole lot about your alleged misdeeds. If you’re going to do it anyway, it’s also best to exercise great caution and message discipline, so as to avoid making things easier for those preparing to indict you.

And yet, there was the former president, throwing caution to the wind. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution’s Greg Bluestein explained in an overnight report:

Former President Donald Trump said Wednesday he had no regrets about his demand that Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger “find” enough votes to reverse his election defeat, a recorded conversation that is at the center of an ongoing Fulton County criminal probe. Pressed about the call at a CNN town hall by moderator Kaitlan Collins, Trump said Raffensperger “owed me votes because the election was rigged” and repeated false conspiracy theories about his defeat in 2020 by Joe Biden.


Just so we’re all clear, Trump is currently facing a possible criminal indictment in Georgia over alleged election interference. Common sense suggests the Republican should’ve steered clear of anything resembling a confession......

At the same town hall event, asked about the classified materials he took to his glorified country club, Trump conceded he “took what I took,” adding he “had every right to do it.”

The Republican didn’t rule out the possibility that he might’ve showed sensitive materials to others — a point of apparent interest to investigators in special counsel Jack Smith’s office — adding, “I would have the right to. ... I have the right to do whatever I want with them.”

TFG's attorneys are no doubt not happy about last night's event
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Ocelot II

(130,565 posts)
1. I should think some of them are filing notices of withdrawal of counsel
Thu May 11, 2023, 03:22 PM
May 2023

in the various courts where they've been trying to represent him. And I have to wonder whether Joe Tacopino had words with him this morning after last night's repeat defamation of E. Jean Carroll... "What the fuck, man!"

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
2. Precisely why we should want to keep Trump talking and recording it on tape.
Thu May 11, 2023, 03:24 PM
May 2023

Trump continues to deepen his legal jeopardy.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,919 posts)
5. That is a decision for Ms. Carroll to make
Thu May 11, 2023, 03:45 PM
May 2023

I agree with Joyce Vance that Ms. Carroll has done enough


Cha

(319,134 posts)
4. Oh fudge.. I didn't know he Copped to that..
Thu May 11, 2023, 03:44 PM
May 2023
Former President Donald Trump said Wednesday he had no regrets about his demand that Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger “find” enough votes to reverse his election defeat, a recorded conversation that is at the center of an ongoing Fulton County criminal probe. Pressed about the call at a CNN town hall by moderator Kaitlan Collins, Trump said Raffensperger “owed me votes because the election was rigged” and repeated false conspiracy theories about his defeat in 2020 by Joe Biden.

Bwah.. MF was "owed those votes".. fucker lives down the lower level of the Rabbit Hole.

TY, LmPV!

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,919 posts)
6. Trump 'put himself in jeopardy' with Wednesday night rant on classified docs: CNN legal expert
Thu May 11, 2023, 04:07 PM
May 2023

TFG's attorneys are going to have fun explaining this



https://www.rawstory.com/trump-classified-documents-2659995117/

New York Law professor Rebecca Roiphe argued on CNN Thursday that former President Donald Trump's comments about the Mar-a-Lago classified document investigation during his town hall the previous night were a disaster for him that potentially puts him in legal jeopardy.....

Roiphe then explained why this statement was particularly problematic for Trump's defense in the case.

"His lawyers are much less happy with his performance than his political advisors, because he put himself in jeopardy by making it clear that he handled these documents himself," she said. "He did this on purpose and he thought he had every right to when, at least in certain ways, no matter what, he didn't."


Cha

(319,134 posts)
7. he fucking Looks like the Devil there..
Thu May 11, 2023, 05:53 PM
May 2023

Coincidence?

".. Put himself in jeopardy.." like he did in his E jean Carroll Deposition.

We knew he was Super Stupid but Come on! lol!

he learns Nothing bc Red Bully Arrogance.. EGO MANIAC

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,919 posts)
8. Trump's comments on Mar-a-Lago documents 'like red meat to a prosecutor'
Thu May 11, 2023, 08:15 PM
May 2023

A good number of lawyers and prosecutors watched the CNN town hall because TFG is too stupid to not make admissions against interest and/or out right confessions. TFG did not disappoint



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-comments-mar-lago-docs-red-meat-prosecutor-rcna83959?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma&taid=645d425690f1210001613aac&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Former President Donald Trump’s comments Wednesday night about his handling of classified documents appeared to contradict statements by his lawyers, and provide potentially important evidence for federal prosecutors investigating whether to charge him with a crime, legal experts say.

Trump’s lawyers told Congress last month that the classified documents found at his Mar-a-Lago compound got there by accident. But when questioned about the issue at a CNN town hall, Trump said he had “every right” to take them from the White House.

“I didn’t make a secret of it,” he said. “You know, the boxes were stationed outside the White House, people were taking pictures of it.”....

“Trump’s comments hurt him, and what he said is significant,” said John Fishwick, a former U.S. attorney for the Western District of Virginia who was appointed during the Obama administration.

“Not only do they contradict his legal position, he admits to possession and knowledge of classified documents that he is taking from the White House. Jack Smith will make good use of last night’s town hall and it will help him button up his case.”

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,919 posts)
9. In classified docs case, did Trump publicly admit a bit too much?
Fri May 12, 2023, 05:02 PM
May 2023

TFG is a really stupid person who makes admissions/confessions every time he talks to the press. I pity TFG's lawyers because they are probably not going to be paid and TFG is contradicting the positions that they have sworn in their deals with the DOJ. TFG's counsel has claimed that the documents were sent to Mar-a-Lago by mistake and now TFG had gutted that defense.

Before this admission, the Special Counsel's best case was illegal retention of the documents/obstruction of justice. Now TFG has made it clear that there was an illegal taking of the documents which makes Washington DC the proper venue for any criminal proceedings.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/classified-docs-case-trump-publicly-admit-bit-much-rcna84121?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma&taid=645e70d2ac086e0001ff86f6&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

It was hard not to imagine his defense attorneys smacking their foreheads. As a New York Times report put it, this was “the area in which he walked himself into the biggest problems.” A separate Times report added overnight:

Former President Donald J. Trump admitted more directly than before on Wednesday that he knowingly removed government records from the White House and claimed that he was allowed to take anything he wanted with him as personal records, appearing to misstate the law and undercut some assertions by his own lawyers.

A related NBC News report noted that Trump’s lawyers told Congress last month that the classified documents found at his Mar-a-Lago compound got there by accident. And yet, there was Trump during the CNN program, declaring, “I took the documents; I’m allowed to,” before lying about his predecessors having done the same thing.

He went on to insist he had an “absolute” right to take the materials from the White House based on an interpretation of the Presidential Records Act that doesn’t really make any sense. The Times added:

At another point, Mr. Trump described for Ms. Collins how he had apparently taken materials from the White House not only on purpose, but in plain view of the public. “When we left Washington, we had the boxes lined up on the sidewalk outside for everybody,” he said. “People are taking pictures of them. Everybody knew we were taking those boxes.


This, too, was at odds with his own lawyers’ recent explanation that the records showed up at Trump’s glorified country club because of the chaotic and haphazard circumstances surrounding his departure from the White House.
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