Thu May 11, 2023, 10:18 PM

Tomconroy (7,107 posts)

Things are happening around Bakhmut tonight. Possibly very good things.

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I try not to publish rumors but there is so much being talked about. And its coming from people who are often pessimistic.
That southern flank looks mighty vulnerable.
Slava Ukraini!

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Things are happening around Bakhmut tonight. Possibly very good things. (Original post)	Tomconroy	May 2023	OP
Thanks for posting.	Irish_Dem	May 2023	#1
No one really knows. Except maybe these guys:	Tomconroy	May 2023	#3
And they're not talking.	Irish_Dem	May 2023	#5
Twitter reply:	Rhiannon12866	May 2023	#6
NICE!!!	calimary	May 2023	#15
Recommended.	panader0	May 2023	#2
Slava Ukraini! Thank you for the update.	niyad	May 2023	#4
I make intercession nightly.	sprinkleeninow	May 2023	#7
Yes. Lots of rumblings online.	WarGamer	May 2023	#8
Just watching the enforcer now, they say lots of good news in Bakhmut tonight	Bev54	May 2023	#9
Apparently the Russians are running away.	WhiteTara	May 2023	#10
And surrendering en mass	PortTack	May 2023	#13
Both Ukraine and Wagner's Prigozhin seem to agree	Beastly Boy	May 2023	#11
Wagner is nearly destroyed	Warpy	May 2023	#12
Holding my breath here... and hoping for more positive and decisive reports.	liberalla	May 2023	#14
Thanks for the update, thinking positive thoughts	Raine	May 2023	#16
I'm hearing from multiple source that Wagner Group TOTALLY collapsed	Brother Buzz	May 2023	#17
🤞SLAVA UKRAINI! 🌻🇺🇦🌻	electric_blue68	May 2023	#18

Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Thu May 11, 2023, 10:35 PM

Irish_Dem (40,833 posts)

1. Thanks for posting.

Is anyone predicting what might happen next?

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

Thu May 11, 2023, 10:40 PM

Tomconroy (7,107 posts)

3. No one really knows. Except maybe these guys:

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Thu May 11, 2023, 10:47 PM

Irish_Dem (40,833 posts)

5. And they're not talking.

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Thu May 11, 2023, 11:29 PM

Rhiannon12866 (190,132 posts)

6. Twitter reply:

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #6)

Fri May 12, 2023, 01:06 AM

calimary (78,125 posts)

15. NICE!!!

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Thu May 11, 2023, 10:39 PM

panader0 (25,816 posts)

2. Recommended.

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Thu May 11, 2023, 10:42 PM

niyad (105,807 posts)

4. Slava Ukraini! Thank you for the update.

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Thu May 11, 2023, 11:30 PM

sprinkleeninow (19,579 posts)

7. I make intercession nightly.

Slava Ukraini! Slava Na Viki!

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Thu May 11, 2023, 11:33 PM

WarGamer (9,941 posts)

8. Yes. Lots of rumblings online.

Going to be a hell of a fight, the Russians have built extensive defense works.

Attacking a well defended position usually costs 2-3:1 casualties...

If the Russians follow tradition... and defensive combat history... they will seek to surround the Ukrainian forces in a pocket and counter attack.

But do the Russians have the leadership and initiative thatt hey did in WW2???

We'll see...

Also, sources I read say that the Russian Air Force has been particularly active the last 2 weeks and may be heavily involved in defensive action.

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Thu May 11, 2023, 11:39 PM

Bev54 (9,109 posts)

9. Just watching the enforcer now, they say lots of good news in Bakhmut tonight

but just getting into the show so will find out what is going on.

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Thu May 11, 2023, 11:50 PM

WhiteTara (28,797 posts)

10. Apparently the Russians are running away.

I wonder what the next iteration of Russia will be.

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Fri May 12, 2023, 12:28 AM

PortTack (30,756 posts)

13. And surrendering en mass

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Response to Tomconroy (Original post)

Fri May 12, 2023, 12:08 AM

Beastly Boy (6,837 posts)

11. Both Ukraine and Wagner's Prigozhin seem to agree

Russia's regulars are abandoning the southern flank.
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-russia-war-live-kyiv-051301364.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

The 72nd Brigade is in retreat, according to most accounts, and the Institute for the Study of War, which is a pretty reliable source that takes care to not jump the gun, reports that "Ukrainian forces likely broke through some Russian lines in localized counterattacks near Bakhmut" (https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-11-2023)

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Fri May 12, 2023, 12:14 AM

Warpy (109,009 posts)

12. Wagner is nearly destroyed

and the Russians are just plain done, at least in the Bakhmut area.

Anyone who survived it will be going home and they are not going to be happy with their government.

Russia is going to be an ungodly mess when this is over. Putin has destroyed any possibility of political opposition, so he's leaving a power vacuum as bad as the one the collapse of the Soviet Union left, maybe even worse. Apparently Russians are posting about what shape an interim government is likely to take.

They know it's over, too. Putin just refuses to read the memo.

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Fri May 12, 2023, 12:48 AM

liberalla (8,785 posts)