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Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
Thu May 11, 2023, 09:18 PM May 2023

Things are happening around Bakhmut tonight. Possibly very good things.









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I try not to publish rumors but there is so much being talked about. And its coming from people who are often pessimistic.
That southern flank looks mighty vulnerable.
Slava Ukraini!
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Things are happening around Bakhmut tonight. Possibly very good things. (Original Post) Tomconroy May 2023 OP
Thanks for posting. Irish_Dem May 2023 #1
No one really knows. Except maybe these guys: Tomconroy May 2023 #3
And they're not talking. Irish_Dem May 2023 #5
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 May 2023 #6
NICE!!! calimary May 2023 #15
Recommended. panader0 May 2023 #2
Slava Ukraini! Thank you for the update. niyad May 2023 #4
I make intercession nightly. sprinkleeninow May 2023 #7
Yes. Lots of rumblings online. WarGamer May 2023 #8
Just watching the enforcer now, they say lots of good news in Bakhmut tonight Bev54 May 2023 #9
Apparently the Russians are running away. WhiteTara May 2023 #10
And surrendering en mass PortTack May 2023 #13
Both Ukraine and Wagner's Prigozhin seem to agree Beastly Boy May 2023 #11
Wagner is nearly destroyed Warpy May 2023 #12
Holding my breath here... and hoping for more positive and decisive reports. liberalla May 2023 #14
Thanks for the update, thinking positive thoughts Raine May 2023 #16
I'm hearing from multiple source that Wagner Group TOTALLY collapsed Brother Buzz May 2023 #17
🤞SLAVA UKRAINI! 🌻🇺🇦🌻 electric_blue68 May 2023 #18

WarGamer

(15,511 posts)
8. Yes. Lots of rumblings online.
Thu May 11, 2023, 10:33 PM
May 2023

Going to be a hell of a fight, the Russians have built extensive defense works.

Attacking a well defended position usually costs 2-3:1 casualties...

If the Russians follow tradition... and defensive combat history... they will seek to surround the Ukrainian forces in a pocket and counter attack.

But do the Russians have the leadership and initiative thatt hey did in WW2???

We'll see...

Also, sources I read say that the Russian Air Force has been particularly active the last 2 weeks and may be heavily involved in defensive action.

Bev54

(11,917 posts)
9. Just watching the enforcer now, they say lots of good news in Bakhmut tonight
Thu May 11, 2023, 10:39 PM
May 2023

but just getting into the show so will find out what is going on.

Beastly Boy

(11,198 posts)
11. Both Ukraine and Wagner's Prigozhin seem to agree
Thu May 11, 2023, 11:08 PM
May 2023

Russia's regulars are abandoning the southern flank.
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-russia-war-live-kyiv-051301364.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall

The 72nd Brigade is in retreat, according to most accounts, and the Institute for the Study of War, which is a pretty reliable source that takes care to not jump the gun, reports that "Ukrainian forces likely broke through some Russian lines in localized counterattacks near Bakhmut" (https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-11-2023)

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
12. Wagner is nearly destroyed
Thu May 11, 2023, 11:14 PM
May 2023

and the Russians are just plain done, at least in the Bakhmut area.

Anyone who survived it will be going home and they are not going to be happy with their government.

Russia is going to be an ungodly mess when this is over. Putin has destroyed any possibility of political opposition, so he's leaving a power vacuum as bad as the one the collapse of the Soviet Union left, maybe even worse. Apparently Russians are posting about what shape an interim government is likely to take.

They know it's over, too. Putin just refuses to read the memo.

liberalla

(10,041 posts)
14. Holding my breath here... and hoping for more positive and decisive reports.
Thu May 11, 2023, 11:48 PM
May 2023

Thanks for the post TC...

Slava Ukraini! Glory to Ukraine!

Brother Buzz

(37,910 posts)
17. I'm hearing from multiple source that Wagner Group TOTALLY collapsed
Fri May 12, 2023, 12:40 AM
May 2023

It's been in trouble for some time, but after their thug criminal leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, was fired, it went south faster than you can spit

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