Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
Fri May 12, 2023, 04:26 PM May 2023

Report today on the northern flank of Bakhmut:





It's unlikely that this is the counter-offensive. More likely Ukraine AF taking advantages of local opportunities.
More rumors are flying, but Russia itself confirmed it has retreated behind the Berkhivka reservoir.pictured on the map.
24 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Report today on the northern flank of Bakhmut: (Original Post) Tomconroy May 2023 OP
Russia still dug in at Zaporizhzhia and other areas....................... Lovie777 May 2023 #1
I do think this is the appetizer to the offensive. The Ukrainians said before it would not all Bev54 May 2023 #3
I saw a report that some German Leopard tanks were seen near Bahkmut TheRealNorth May 2023 #6
Yes we have seen Leopard tanks and some Dutch tanks, seem to be new but they try not to Bev54 May 2023 #7
Russian troops fall back to 'defensive positions' near Bakhmut muriel_volestrangler May 2023 #2
Firstly I don't believe a word out of the Russian defense ministry and since that few kilometres Bev54 May 2023 #4
Stalemate. That's all it's been for months and will be for months more. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #5
Time to bonk some Tankies. Tomconroy May 2023 #8
Stalemate, then there will be renegotiations and then there will be another uneasy peace. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #9
Clearly it's time for US airpower to start playing a part.. Tomconroy May 2023 #10
World War 3, no. Crystal clearly, unless it's ok when the nukes fall on America? Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #11
Lol. The allies keep fighting Russian colonialism by giving Ukraine more weapons Tomconroy May 2023 #13
Suit up, Lance Corporal MousePad. WarGamer May 2023 #18
Duck and cover works on nukes, so we were told...whats the modern duck and cover? Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #19
And if China gets involved on Russia's side, MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #15
That's Putin's propaganda line: threatening us with nukes. Please dont YOU threaten us with nukes Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #24
Worst idea ever. WarGamer May 2023 #17
Nope. That's what Putin wants, to reinforce his "existential war" subtheme Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #23
Yes, hasten it. Russia should fucking withdraw Sky Jewels May 2023 #12
Exactly right. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #22
"Hasten it"? You are advocating capitulation to despotic tyranny. NO. . . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #21
Right on cue. MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #16
Nope. You mistake preparations for weakness. You forget Ukr quickly took back a lot when they rolled Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #20
Outstanding lpbk2713 May 2023 #14

Lovie777

(14,258 posts)
1. Russia still dug in at Zaporizhzhia and other areas.......................
Fri May 12, 2023, 04:40 PM
May 2023

but Bakhmut after months upon months of heavy fighting with losses on both sides, Ukraine finally has a opening.

Bev54

(11,630 posts)
3. I do think this is the appetizer to the offensive. The Ukrainians said before it would not all
Fri May 12, 2023, 04:58 PM
May 2023

happen at once but will go in stages and it seems they are at the stage just before the all out offensive. With the new UK long range missiles they are within range of the bridge over Kersh. This should scare the hell out of Russia.

TheRealNorth

(9,628 posts)
6. I saw a report that some German Leopard tanks were seen near Bahkmut
Fri May 12, 2023, 05:52 PM
May 2023

Could be misinformation to mislead the Russians, but that could se said about pretty much any report.

Bev54

(11,630 posts)
7. Yes we have seen Leopard tanks and some Dutch tanks, seem to be new but they try not to
Fri May 12, 2023, 06:25 PM
May 2023

give us their positions until a few days later.

muriel_volestrangler

(102,195 posts)
2. Russian troops fall back to 'defensive positions' near Bakhmut
Fri May 12, 2023, 04:45 PM
May 2023
Russia’s defence ministry has said some of its troops have fallen back “to more advantageous defensive positions” near a reservoir north-west of the city of Bakhmut in eastern Ukraine.

The statement on Friday was the first admission by Moscow that Ukraine was successfully recapturing ground around Bakhmut, a largely destroyed city with a pre-war population of about 70,000 that Russia has been trying to conquer for more than 10 months.

The Russian defence statement came hours after Kyiv said that its forces had advanced by about 2km (1.2 miles) around Bakhmut this week.

Hanna Maliar, Ukraine’s deputy defence minister, said on Friday: “The enemy suffered great losses of manpower. Our defenders advanced 2km in the Bakhmut sector. We did not lose a single position in Bakhmut this week.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/12/russian-troops-defensive-positions-near-bakhmut-moscow-statement-ukraine

Bev54

(11,630 posts)
4. Firstly I don't believe a word out of the Russian defense ministry and since that few kilometres
Fri May 12, 2023, 05:00 PM
May 2023

the Ukrainians have advanced much further on the southern flank with little to no resistance because the Russian soldiers have disappeared and left Wagner forces in the city of Bakhmut in big trouble.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
9. Stalemate, then there will be renegotiations and then there will be another uneasy peace.
Sat May 13, 2023, 08:02 AM
May 2023

Putin gets little, Ukraine gets little and still the dead are dead.

Hasten it all!

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
13. Lol. The allies keep fighting Russian colonialism by giving Ukraine more weapons
Sun May 14, 2023, 06:31 PM
May 2023

And the tankies keep predicting putler gonna go nuclear. And it never happens. Not then. Not now. Not ever.
Putler's too much of a physical coward to risk his worthless hide.

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,419 posts)
24. That's Putin's propaganda line: threatening us with nukes. Please dont YOU threaten us with nukes
Mon May 15, 2023, 09:20 AM
May 2023

Don't you threaten us with nukes unless we force Ukraine to knuckle under the ruzzian boot.

You wouldn't tell Americans to surrender, so don't threaten us with nuclear war and Putin's propaganda to get Ukraine to do what you wouldn't do in the same situation.

Please don't get weak in the knees about freedom from tyrants.

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,419 posts)
23. Nope. That's what Putin wants, to reinforce his "existential war" subtheme
Mon May 15, 2023, 09:17 AM
May 2023

He is able to run a very hot war while hoodwinking the ruzzian federation's population into thinking it is all under control, but at the same time he is laying groundwork to push-pull his population into an all-out existential war if he gets excuses by Western behaviour.

Don't give him the excuse of US boots on the ground.

Haven't you had enough quagmires in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan?

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,419 posts)
20. Nope. You mistake preparations for weakness. You forget Ukr quickly took back a lot when they rolled
Mon May 15, 2023, 09:10 AM
May 2023

Ukraine took back a lot of territory in the northeast when they rolled out last year.

Ukraine has been blocking at Bahkmut; that's not a stalemate, it was a strategic holding pattern while Ukraine got much stronger. Russia has in the interim gotten weaker.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Report today on the north...