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KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
Mon May 15, 2023, 12:07 PM May 2023

reQublicans have found their new "Benghazi"

reQublicans used Benghazi, emails, etc against Hillary because they knew she was the front runner in 2016,
and even after being exposed as nothing burgers Rs never quit attacking her over them. We know how they
operate, just keep repeating "Jan 6th was a peaceful demonstration" until it becomes a fact.

Their new target is President Biden of course and the new words they are pounding over & over again on FQX
is "Biden Crime Family". Hannity has been doing a segment on the "Biden Crime Family" for over a week now and
last Friday devoted his entire show to the "Biden Crime Family".

He starts out accusing President Biden & Hunter Biden of
1) influence peddling
2) public corruption
3) bribery
4) money laundering
5) tax evasion
6) gun crimes
7) drug crimes
8) prostitution ......betting this one is going on in the basement of a pizza parlor ...........

Just like the lack of a birth certificate for Obama, which some Rs still believe to this day, these are the lies
they'll be telling over & over again until they become the TRUTH to their viewers. How do we fight this?
Seems like the Bidens should be able to sue FQX for defamation.



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reQublicans have found their new "Benghazi" (Original Post) KS Toronado May 2023 OP
This is how Big Lies work: repetition and roll it along like a snowball. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #1
So why can't we do that? I'm serious. calimary May 2023 #19
Because lies are unethical. That's why. Power for the sake of power is corruption. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #20
Our talking points would NOT be lies. calimary May 2023 #24
Okay, you were replying to my post with a question so I answered it. Reference to OP was absent Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #28
We don't have a national "news" network on 24/7/365 Wednesdays May 2023 #21
And we sure do need pushback in talk radio land. calimary May 2023 #25
Remind magats and undecideds: there is no credible chain of custody for Biden laptop files. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #2
There's computer forensic science Tickle May 2023 #36
Problem is laptop passed through multiple hands Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #38
Another reason to... 2naSalit May 2023 #3
From the Hoarse Whisperer LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #4
I participate on a local Republican Fb page Tesha May 2023 #5
Then we'd damned well better counteract it. wnylib May 2023 #16
I never let a lie pass on that page Tesha May 2023 #17
EXCELLENT!!! calimary May 2023 #32
Ty KS.. here's the Hoarse Whisperer on it.. Cha May 2023 #6
LOL geardaddy May 2023 #9
This one isn't sticking outside of the bubble BaronChocula May 2023 #7
Another Big Lie the RW keep pushing, even as most see, understand and respect, an Elder. Alexander Of Assyria May 2023 #13
Especially in other cultures BaronChocula May 2023 #40
And it's all just projection geardaddy May 2023 #8
"A Beautiful Mind" Captain_New_York May 2023 #10
Scary dumb nowforever May 2023 #11
What does going to church have to do with, well, anything? ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2023 #39
That's some world class projection. Pepsidog May 2023 #12
Can the Biden family initiate a lawsuit? SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #14
I don't get why not. Dominion proved they can win against Fox News LiberalLovinLug May 2023 #18
I agree 100% KS Toronado May 2023 #27
just call it out as the non-stop bullshit express - the refuKKKchickens are just a mafia bringthePaine May 2023 #15
The Bullshit Express!!! LOVE this! calimary May 2023 #33
Members of the Biden family should file a defamation lawsuit against Fox and Hannity! KPN May 2023 #22
This. onecaliberal May 2023 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2023 #26
I hope you have family members Dorian Gray May 2023 #29
MIRT team at work here? KS Toronado May 2023 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2023 #37
GOP Gaslighting Obstruction Projection liberalmediaaddict May 2023 #30
Don't worry the Republican Owned Media will clear this right up. live love laugh May 2023 #34

calimary

(90,021 posts)
19. So why can't we do that? I'm serious.
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:51 PM
May 2023

We should have a vibrant and viable two-pronged attack strategy. One building up the Dems and the other piling on the negatives about the opposition.

And it’s not like the GOP hasn’t provided enough material to work with, to get the chatter started and vigorously push the messaging.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
24. Our talking points would NOT be lies.
Mon May 15, 2023, 03:05 PM
May 2023

And yeah, I agree lies are unethical. But they have to be called out as lies, especially in this day and age where there’s a main channel for Democrats to see and hear good talking points, and now SEVERAL oppositional channels trying to push negatives about Democrats in general and President Biden in particular.

There are too many people out there who are receptive to GOP lies and other such talking points. Especially when those talking points reinforce their darkest instincts that they used to think they had to keep closeted. All those negatives are now being reinforced by Pox, Newsmax, OAN, and who the hell even knows how many more by now. And CNN just checked out, having lost credibility and trustworthiness by its foolhardy trump-fest the other night.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
28. Okay, you were replying to my post with a question so I answered it. Reference to OP was absent
Mon May 15, 2023, 03:22 PM
May 2023

Yes, there needs to be a 7/365 rebuttal operation.

Wednesdays

(22,603 posts)
21. We don't have a national "news" network on 24/7/365
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:56 PM
May 2023

nor a nationwide network of talk radio shows, like the other side has.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
25. And we sure do need pushback in talk radio land.
Mon May 15, 2023, 03:07 PM
May 2023

Air America was all we’ve had, but it was starved to death and given up on before it even found its footing.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
2. Remind magats and undecideds: there is no credible chain of custody for Biden laptop files. . . . nt
Mon May 15, 2023, 12:23 PM
May 2023
 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
36. There's computer forensic science
Wed May 17, 2023, 06:17 AM
May 2023

I don't understand why we haven't done anything like that yet. Doesn't matter if they erased or added data it will show up as it went on

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
38. Problem is laptop passed through multiple hands
Wed May 17, 2023, 10:36 AM
May 2023

Even with timestamps on files and recovering hidden blocks, it is very uncertain who did what when.

2naSalit

(102,802 posts)
3. Another reason to...
Mon May 15, 2023, 12:51 PM
May 2023

Normalize AI to muddy the water so everyone has to put in effort to find the truth.

Tesha

(21,141 posts)
5. I participate on a local Republican Fb page
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:19 PM
May 2023

and from this list?

it's plain to see why there is a visceral hatred of Biden there.

Clearly the propaganda is working.

wnylib

(26,017 posts)
16. Then we'd damned well better counteract it.
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:19 PM
May 2023

Each of us here on DU can do that, but we need some prominent people to say it to national audiences.

Turn that message around and aim it where it belongs, at the Trump crime family. There are plenty of Trump crimes to rattle off, by all of them.


Tesha

(21,141 posts)
17. I never let a lie pass on that page
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:37 PM
May 2023

without commenting - showing proof - linking facts

They hate me, but I write there for those lurkers afraid to stand up to these folks.
I'll never change the minds of the extremists, but they are going to stop th truth.

And I won't let them be the only opinions on that page either.

BaronChocula

(4,555 posts)
7. This one isn't sticking outside of the bubble
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:31 PM
May 2023

What average Americans seem to be obsessing about is President Biden's age.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
13. Another Big Lie the RW keep pushing, even as most see, understand and respect, an Elder.
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:05 PM
May 2023

Elder is a title given by regular people to an extraordinary life. President Elder Biden.

BaronChocula

(4,555 posts)
40. Especially in other cultures
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:17 PM
May 2023

Here in the U.S. of A., consumerism has infested our DNA. If it ain't new, throw it away. I still think Biden will win reelection.

geardaddy

(25,392 posts)
8. And it's all just projection
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:36 PM
May 2023

Trump and the Goopers are doing everything they're accusing Biden and the Democrats of doing.

"Look over there!"

Captain_New_York

(164 posts)
10. "A Beautiful Mind"
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:43 PM
May 2023

John Nash had the same problem with his trio of friends. Only he could see them !!!

 

nowforever

(586 posts)
11. Scary dumb
Mon May 15, 2023, 01:56 PM
May 2023

They are love with the man who never goes to church or pays taxes, lies continuously, insults, bullies, has never owned a dog, couldn't pass a 4th grade history exam, is a sexual predator, has no sense of humor and is a malignant narcissist who hasn't read a book in 60 years( just a guess). Like I said scary dumb.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
35. What does going to church have to do with, well, anything?
Wed May 17, 2023, 05:37 AM
May 2023

If you want to make the bigoted claim that only "good" people go to church, then I have no choice but to remind you that the BTK serial killer was not only a regular church attendee, but also a deacon in his church.

Or how about how often child-raping Catholic priests were not only in church multiple times a week--but leading all of the masses, too?

Those are but two of literally millions of examples I could use to establish how church attendance is indicative nothing other than church attendance. It means literally nothing outside of that, so why slime it into any discussion regarding reality--which is about as far from the province of religion as one can get?

Response to nowforever (Reply #11)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,689 posts)
18. I don't get why not. Dominion proved they can win against Fox News
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:51 PM
May 2023

Or proved they would have.

A "news" organization that levels that degree of accusations, even without the "alleged" prefix. Calling them the The Biden Crime Family is the same as calling them criminals. That is clear. And then listing a bunch of crimes. Coincidentally many of those crimes Trump is actually guilty of.

Suing seems to be the only weapon. Then of course they will fall back on "all the judges and lawyers are working for Soros and the Deep State and Nancy Pelosi!". But that only goes over with the most disturbed MAGAts.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
33. The Bullshit Express!!! LOVE this!
Mon May 15, 2023, 04:01 PM
May 2023

And the variation on a theme:

The Nonstop Bullshit Express!

Love it, LOVE it, LOVE it!!!

KPN

(17,377 posts)
22. Members of the Biden family should file a defamation lawsuit against Fox and Hannity!
Mon May 15, 2023, 02:57 PM
May 2023

This stuff needs to be challenged robustly if we want to save our democracy ... and this requires defending and preserving truth and facts.

Here's a question: do voters individually and/or collectively have standing to sue when elected officers and candidates they support are being defamed falsely?

Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
29. I hope you have family members
Mon May 15, 2023, 03:26 PM
May 2023

who you let be present for you despite this delusional thinking. Please get well. I know you won't be around here for much longer, so it's been real.

Arrivederci.

Response to Dorian Gray (Reply #29)

liberalmediaaddict

(998 posts)
30. GOP Gaslighting Obstruction Projection
Mon May 15, 2023, 03:34 PM
May 2023

Every action Republicans take fall into one or more of those categories.

This "Biden Crime Family" smokescreen is classic gaslighting and projection. Every accusation again Biden is something the Trump family is guilty of. What Comer is conducting is actually a witch hunt.

Problem is Fox News gives a platform to this garbage. And the rest of the media treats these House investigations as credible doing a disservice to their viewers.

Every insult is projection
Every accusation is a confession.

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