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Hillary Clinton speaks out on McCarthy's plan to default on the national debt. (Original Post) Fla Dem May 2023 OP
Those abstract concepts to most constituents.Tell them they won't get their Social Security check Walleye May 2023 #1
Yup, talk about not getting a SS check and us geezers will sit up and take notice in both mitch96 May 2023 #3
Yes. We are talking about your next month's check. Not sometime in the future Walleye May 2023 #4
And likely Rebl2 May 2023 #9
No V.A. health care MiHale May 2023 #10
Or Disability check. liberalmuse May 2023 #21
Every month they gladly cash their checks loudly claiming to hate the United States government Walleye May 2023 #23
Right, but Kevin will still be Speaker. So. dchill May 2023 #2
EVERY. SINGLE. tweet following hers is pure HATE. CousinIT May 2023 #5
but But BUT BENGHAZI!!!! nt mitch96 May 2023 #6
Holy cannoli how threatened they are by her. calimary May 2023 #14
Followers of the Orange One nowforever May 2023 #15
Musk has prioritized replies from his subscribers, who are almost all RW, highplainsdem May 2023 #20
Yeah and any day now the Durham report will put her in jail, oh wait Walleye May 2023 #24
Most of it is a laundry list of what Republicans have always wanted to kill Warpy May 2023 #7
If McCarthy & his foul, malicious & very stupid maga republicans solara May 2023 #8
Will Rebl2 May 2023 #12
I believe military members are paid, but my son and d-i-l who are with the USCG do not OMGWTF May 2023 #17
I hate that Homeland term as well it's unAmerican Walleye May 2023 #25
We're both on Social Security and Medicare Bayard May 2023 #11
Republicans can't govern but they're great at terrorism. MiHale May 2023 #13
They are vindictive and lazy, it is much easier to destroy than construct Walleye May 2023 #26
Have dems ever stomped their feet & threatened to tank the economy if they don't get their way? CrispyQ May 2023 #16
As long as FOX and right wing media report this as a Biden-caused disaster Mr. Ected May 2023 #18
To paraphrase Trump, McCarthy is a "pussy" who is desperate to come world wide wally May 2023 #19
The Republicon's fun and games DENVERPOPS May 2023 #22
Yes, of course, magats want our Cha May 2023 #27
the epic stupidity of their core constituents mike_c May 2023 #28

Walleye

(44,797 posts)
1. Those abstract concepts to most constituents.Tell them they won't get their Social Security check
Tue May 16, 2023, 10:30 AM
May 2023

mitch96

(15,802 posts)
3. Yup, talk about not getting a SS check and us geezers will sit up and take notice in both
Tue May 16, 2023, 10:54 AM
May 2023

red states and blue states... Follow the money...
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Walleye

(44,797 posts)
4. Yes. We are talking about your next month's check. Not sometime in the future
Tue May 16, 2023, 11:00 AM
May 2023

If you don’t need the money, that’s fine go ahead and support Kevin McCarthy

liberalmuse

(18,881 posts)
21. Or Disability check.
Tue May 16, 2023, 01:23 PM
May 2023

A large number of Trumpers I'm acquainted with are drawing disability. One was even running a shop.

Walleye

(44,797 posts)
23. Every month they gladly cash their checks loudly claiming to hate the United States government
Tue May 16, 2023, 01:43 PM
May 2023

CousinIT

(12,533 posts)
5. EVERY. SINGLE. tweet following hers is pure HATE.
Tue May 16, 2023, 11:37 AM
May 2023

Nothing else. In 150 hate-tweets, I found ONE supporting what she said. THAT is Muskrat's toilet. I should NOT be seeing those tweets when I do not FOLLOW those MAGAts.

 

nowforever

(586 posts)
15. Followers of the Orange One
Tue May 16, 2023, 12:48 PM
May 2023

Are so brainwashed that their independent thinking processes are obliterated. It is scary how hateful and ignorant a wide segment of our population has become. Trump opened the door to hate and resentment and the imbeciles walked in with a smile on their faces...sickening.

highplainsdem

(62,134 posts)
20. Musk has prioritized replies from his subscribers, who are almost all RW,
Tue May 16, 2023, 01:22 PM
May 2023

so their replies appear before any replies from people who don't subscribe.

Warpy

(114,614 posts)
7. Most of it is a laundry list of what Republicans have always wanted to kill
Tue May 16, 2023, 11:58 AM
May 2023

like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Veterans' health care, pensions, and other benefits, school lunches, public school, itself, and anything else that benefits the people at the expense of the stock market.

It might be time for a discussion about why we have a country and a government. It it solely to benefit a rigid and small power elite, or do we have it to benefit the people? A quick reading of the preamble to the constitution should answer that question.

solara

(3,894 posts)
8. If McCarthy & his foul, malicious & very stupid maga republicans
Tue May 16, 2023, 12:01 PM
May 2023

force a default on the national debt - I, along with most likely millions of other seniors, will literally be out on the street, hoping to find a shopping cart to hold what's left of our lives.

People are saying SS and Medicare/Medicaid will be at risk, but there is hardly any mention of what that 'risk' may actually mean. And we cannot forget the many other millions of American Citizens, also at risk, who could lose everything (not hyperbole) like their Veterans benefits, or 3 million jobs, or dealing with crazy Mortgage rates, Scarcity & hunger for children, actual loss of Retirement savings and so on.

This is not a soulless, juvenile competition- and it's not the time to be acting the fool! Clearly McCarthy's Congressional Creatures are not only insane, but ignorant cretins to support that no-spine/ ass-hat McCarthy& his dream of unlimited power. If they actually enable crazy & vicious McCarthy to allow this default, they should know there are millions of voters they will have lost forever. But that point may eventually prove to be moot.

How and why have so many malevolent narcissists gathered in one place, I wonder?

Can nothing be done? It is starting to seem hopeless.

Anyway, did not mean to share so much of my sob story. But the actual point is that
the risks are terrible and real and I know I am not alone.

Thanks


Rebl2

(17,738 posts)
12. Will
Tue May 16, 2023, 12:15 PM
May 2023

military members be paid? I thought I heard a couple times they would not be paid, but not sure about that.

OMGWTF

(5,131 posts)
17. I believe military members are paid, but my son and d-i-l who are with the USCG do not
Tue May 16, 2023, 12:56 PM
May 2023

because they are Dept of Homeland Security (I loathe that term, it's so Nazi) and not Dept of Defense. The last time the Rethugs did this my son had a food and diaper drive and raised over $1K to be distributed among his coworkers who didn't have any savings to weather the interruption in pay.

Walleye

(44,797 posts)
25. I hate that Homeland term as well it's unAmerican
Tue May 16, 2023, 01:46 PM
May 2023

Americans think of this is our country the homeland is someplace our ancestors came from, I can’t believe how Republicans corrupt our language so much

Bayard

(29,679 posts)
11. We're both on Social Security and Medicare
Tue May 16, 2023, 12:14 PM
May 2023

My prescriptions and doctor bills are several hundred dollars a month alone. I don't know how we would continue to feed our animals. Our savings would be quickly depleted.

At least our mortgage is paid off.

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
16. Have dems ever stomped their feet & threatened to tank the economy if they don't get their way?
Tue May 16, 2023, 12:52 PM
May 2023

The internet says, that on top of huge tax cuts for the corporations & the wealthy, republicans in Congress also raised the debt limit three times with no pre-conditions, all while Trump was in office.

The level of hypocrisy is stunning & lack of reporting on it equally stunning. The media is going to help reelect that putrid orange piece of shit. They will help usher in the very authoritarian regime that will shut a lot of them down.

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
18. As long as FOX and right wing media report this as a Biden-caused disaster
Tue May 16, 2023, 12:56 PM
May 2023

The rubes will believe and will never hold the GOP or Benedict McCarthy accountable.

world wide wally

(21,836 posts)
19. To paraphrase Trump, McCarthy is a "pussy" who is desperate to come
Tue May 16, 2023, 01:14 PM
May 2023

across as tough guy negotiator and show people how tough he wishes he was.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
22. The Republicon's fun and games
Tue May 16, 2023, 01:28 PM
May 2023

could bring down upon us a cataclysmic nightmare that would take decades, if not forever, to stabilize.......

I can only imagine that N. Korea, Russia, China, the Saudi's, Iran, India, and countless other nation's tyrants are salivating like Pavlov's dog right now....................

I think the 6 million jobs and unemployment at 7% are grossly underestimated.........

"Hoovervilles" are already cropping up across the nation.

Defaulting on the Debt would be far more disastrous than our Great Depression, but this time we would have to think about a whole new situation.........This time there would be 70+ Million Trumphumpers out there, armed to the teeth, playing survival of the fittest.......

It would quickly become what it was like at the Capitol on J6th, except in every city and town across the entire U.S.

You gotta hand it to the Repubs, Since 1980 they have been working on this concept of a Republican ruled New America.
They have orchestrated it, they have organized it, and are zeroing in on the target...........The U.S. has missed a ton of close calls, but I am not sure that will continue............

The Republican Voters are nothing more than MAGAT pawns, but are too ignorant or stupid to realize everyone below the top 1% will be royally screwed. The 1% wants to reduce the remaining 99% down to serfs and peasants.........

Cha

(319,067 posts)
27. Yes, of course, magats want our
Tue May 16, 2023, 03:40 PM
May 2023

country & Planet to go to Hell under Pres Biden.. like it goes to Hell under any damn Fascist regime.. like it did under trump and would under that mini mussolini in Fla.

TY & Hillary!

mike_c

(37,051 posts)
28. the epic stupidity of their core constituents
Tue May 16, 2023, 04:23 PM
May 2023

I live in a well known retirement community in Arizona, where the average age is certainly over 65 (minimum age of 55 to live here at all and the place is huge). Most residents are pretty conservative retirees. The dude across the street has a big Trump 2024 flag draped on the front of his house. You'd think that their loyalties would go out the window with their first missed social security check, which will impose real hardship on folks here, as will any loss of private savings.

I think they'll simply project their pain onto dems no matter how little sense that makes. MAGA republicans are utterly attached to their grievances to the point where all MAGA public life is defined by them. If we fixed all their grievances at once with a magic wand they would simply create more, because their sense of self is chained to their grievances and they won't/can't live without them.

Thirty-ish percent of Americans will always wish and vote for chaos and self destruction, no matter what. THAT is the real crisis of our democracy.

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