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If you're a Trump-humping MAGAt, I just scared the living shit out of you with a single word.
You don't know what the word means, and your Republican politicians can never define it when asked for an explanation of what it is, or what it represents.
What they do know is that invoking that word strikes fear in the heart of every ignorant dumbass who they've brainwashed into believing that a single, one syllable word - when applied to anything - means something onerous, something evil, something that portends the end of civilization as we know it.
Let that sink in. You have been trained like dogs to react to a word. You foam at the mouth over a word. You totally lose your shit over a word.
And you wonder why sane, intelligent people see you as the fucking idiots you are.
niyad
(113,253 posts)The Grand Illuminist
(1,331 posts)They don't care about prison, as long as the damage they do is done. This is how far it is at right now.
brush
(53,764 posts)out of his mouth is woke or anti-woke, which most don't know what it means. And once most voters find out that it means banning books, denying LBGTQ and trans people rights, not to mention women and banning AP Black history courses (pure racism), and silly anti-Disney crap, it may play in dumbfuckistan Floriduh, but it won't in Peoria.
DeSantis was supposed to be the smart trump but he's already way behind the legally beleaguered trump who by the time the primaries start, will likely be be under multiple indictments, after having already been found liable for sexual assault. So DeSantis is not so smart if ya ask me.
malaise
(268,908 posts)and saw everything associated with white supremacy and right wing religious beliefs.
and we aren't going back.
Gaugamela
(2,496 posts)MAGA extremists use it disparagingly they are turning it into a racist dog whistle. By now its association has expanded to include any marginalized group, in particular the LGBTQ community. Woke is to have empathy for anyone who doesnt conform to their white male cis-gender faux-Christian patriarchal norm, or to show concern for or awareness of anything beyond ones own immediate self-interest. Thus greed is good, and the greed of their venal patriarchal dominance is the highest good. Thats what they mean by woke. Of course they cant define what it means, because they cant admit even to themselves that their worldview is that petty and limited.
ancianita
(36,019 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke
Lately, Woke is the MAGA right's white supremacist dog whistle.
MAGA rethugs got nothing, and will never pervert its real historical meaning.
LoisB
(7,199 posts)ancianita
(36,019 posts)SouthBayDem
(32,015 posts)Racists want to discredit the term, so they take advantage of peoples naïveté.
LoisB
(7,199 posts)Gaugamela
(2,496 posts)it, and explaining why they cant define their own usage.
ancianita
(36,019 posts)Yep, it's true that MAGA acts like its lingo is all brand new.
I meant only to give context to what you said.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,169 posts)I even seem to remember Fox News took on "Empathy" as a big threat on their shows for a while a few years ago. They dropped it and moved on as it clearly didn't sound threatening enough. But I remember Laura Ingram going on about Empathy being a bad thing and a danger. I was gobsmacked that they went that low. But it clearly showed how much they value putting themselves in others shoes.
SomedayKindaLove
(529 posts)Abusive authoritarian father has daughter who seeks same. The viscous cycle of untreated trauma. Unloved by his parents, Trump ends up hating everyone. That is the real connection Trump has with his MAGA crowd. They are fear driven victims of trauma and/or hatred. The macho man schtick and fuck your feelings are their secret cries for help. They just dont realize it yet.
Tetrachloride
(7,831 posts)Hes not at a loss for words.
J_William_Ryan
(1,751 posts)Its white grievance politics and racist replacement theory; the unwarranted fear that white culture is under attack.
Its the bigotry, racism, and hate of conservatives who seek to compel conformity and oppose diversity, inclusion, and expressions of individual liberty.
Indeed, theres no such thing as woke as misrepresented and lied about by conservatives.
PatrickforB
(14,570 posts)The right wing propaganda organs continue to spew out their racist, hate-filled vitriol 24/7/365 on AM talk radio, Fox and other cable networks.
These organs are responsible for much of the projection that comes forth in talking points.
For example a bunch of neo-Nazis marching with Tiki torches chanting they won't ever be replaced seems quite demonic to me, yet many on the right are convinced that Joe Biden is a demon, the Democratic party is the one that is satanic, Donald Trump is King Cyrus, blah, blah, blah.
I mean, look at all the right wingnuts who have amassed whole arsenals of weapons so they can protect themselves from our government. Look at the preppers, the survivalists, the right-wing white supremacist hate-militias.
When Biden recently spoke about racism at a commencement, there was at least one whole thread on Facebook about how he's a demon and the Bircher types are the ones keeping the republic from falling as opposed to trying to pull it all down around our knees and destroy democracy, as they so clearly are.
I've often pointed out that the opposite of woke is asleep, and the people who want us to be asleep are the billionaire parasites and Wall Street greed lizards. Because if we are asleep, we ostensibly won't notice that they continue to systematically pick our pockets.
These people who salivate at the word 'woke' are proverbial useful idiots. Unfortunately, they are very well armed and increasingly violent.
randr
(12,409 posts)from the 70's
msfiddlestix
(7,278 posts)rubbersole
(6,684 posts)Sympthsical
(9,071 posts)Where what one imagines the other to be is far more fevered than what other people actually are.
No one really cares about the word or is hiding under a bed if it's spoken. Most people are just tired of hearing it. It doesn't mean anything anymore.
It's like fascism, the Leo Spaceman of words at this point.
Elessar Zappa
(13,954 posts)Every Facebook comment section I go to, whether the subject be sports, history, cooking, whatever, you have maga morons accuse someone of being woke. They most certainly care about the word and it dominates their pea brains.
Btw, what do you call what Ron DeSantis is doing in Florida? Certainly to the lgbt and black communities it looks, smells and feels like fascism. I thought the word was used inappropriately for the Bush administration. But the current Republican agenda is fascist, full stop.
Sympthsical
(9,071 posts)Thats mistake one.
Im gay. I dont feel unsafe.
People act like weve never dealt with people hating us before. That were all hiding under beds somewhere because Republicans are doing what theyve historically done.
Im not as weak as straight people keep telling me I am.
I have no control over other peoples anxiety. If uncontrolled extra is the order of the day, so be it.
Ill just be over here living my life without paralyzing fear wrought of internet-induced anxiety. Its just a more pleasant experience.
rlegro
(338 posts)calimary
(81,207 posts)SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)You have them pegged exactly.
llmart
(15,536 posts)I guess that's the basic definition of "gullible", and cultists are gullible by definition.
keithbvadu2
(36,752 posts)EYESORE 9001
(25,927 posts)The alternative being asleep ignorant, or close-minded.
OMGWTF
(3,950 posts)admitting that you are gay or a transvestite.
LoisB
(7,199 posts)COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)They will almost always stumble around, and in the end they'll just say "I'm anti-woke"...which means "I'm bigoted but I'm not dumb enough to come out and say I'm homophobic or racist or whatever"...sometimes it's kind of fun, sometimes it's kind of sad. An example (my mother is almost 98 so she isn't going to change)...Mom's church (Methodist) recently voted to leave the United Methodists because in her words they had gone woke. I asked her what "Woke" meant to her and her response was to sputter...."you know what that means". I said I had a definition but wanted to hear hers. In the end the United Methodists were too soft on homosexuals in the church. No wonder I don't belong to any organized religion.
Mopar151
(9,978 posts)All of which are necessary attributes for success as a Slaver, or a lesser nobleman of old.
Joinfortmill
(14,413 posts)Dear_Prudence
(363 posts)There is science behind risk perception (see Wikipedia for general background). Demagogues know that when a risk is presented as unknown, unfamiliar, or undefined, it is more likely to induce dread. So, seeing a ghost could be scarier than a roomful of second-hand smoke, despite the fact that it is smoke that kills. The concept of "woke" is deliberately vague, vacuous, and undefinable, and deliberately so. The term invokes ghostly terror. The left tosses around the terms "facist" and "authoritarian", which are well known and well-defined, thus, less scary to some in terms of risk perception. I do not support adopting tactics designed to invoke terror. We need to dispel this unfocused fear as best as we can, maybe offering our own friendly, welcoming definition of woke. We need to provide reasonable remedies to real problems because that is the ethical choice and because it strengthens, rather than undermines, our democracy.
carpetbagger
(4,391 posts)That's why the biggest target is the teaching of history
The Butler
(25 posts)Carpet bagger you are spot on.
judy
(1,942 posts)...instead of letting the right wing give it an ominous scary and unknown meaning.
Woke is good. Woke means you know what's happening with climate change, fascism rising and all things that can help humans survive on this planet.
Why can't a progressive politician start a "Woke is good" campaign? Woke IS good!! And language matters
cilla4progress
(24,725 posts)what woke is.
BunnyMcGee
(463 posts)Buffalo Springfield demonstrates woke and anti-woke.
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Peacetrain
(22,875 posts)you are so right Nancy
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,111 posts)cilla4progress
(24,725 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,752 posts)If a right winger asks you what 'woke' means:::
'It means anti-republican child molesters.'
Or some such 'definition'.
Ask them: if that's not it, what is?
GreenWave
(6,714 posts)I woke up today, I was crying
Lost in a lost world
'Cause so many people are dying
Lost in a lost world
Some of them are living an illusion
Bounded by the darkness of their minds
In their eyes it's nation against nation, against nation
With racial pride sad hearts they hide
Thinking only of themselves
They shun the light (Some of them shun the light)
They think they're right (Some of them think they're right)
Living in their empty shells (Some live in their empty shells)
Oh, can you see their world is crashing? (So many people)
Crashing down around their feet, angry people in the street
Telling them they've had their fill (So many people)
Of politics that wound and kill (So many people)
Uncle Joe
(58,348 posts)Thanks for the thread NanceGreggs
Marcuse
(7,478 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)stupid sheep.
Go Nancy! Keep calling it for what it is.
sheshe2
(83,729 posts)samplegirl
(11,475 posts)lets go Brandon till they wore that out!
roamer65
(36,745 posts)SomedayKindaLove
(529 posts)pansypoo53219
(20,969 posts)DO NOT MAKE THEM EVOLVE!
C Moon
(12,212 posts)Emile
(22,654 posts)Catherine Vincent
(34,488 posts)These maga crybabies make me sick with their constant whining about a word they knew nothing about until some conservative hack introduced them to it. They've even gone as far as complaining about tv shows calling it "woke bs" just because they don't like the topic.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)For me, being woke is simply being open-minded, aware and knowledgeable of reality.......
KY
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Sad but true and it is hard to not mock them. As a demographic they seem to fall for every damn distraction from reality the cons put out there as red meat. Transgenders are their new boogeyman.
What did Trump do for most of the workers? Failed.
Ten actions that hurt workers during Trumps first year
How Trump and Congress further rigged the economy in favor of the wealthy
Report By Josh Bivens, Daniel Costa, Celine McNicholas, Heidi Shierholz, and Marni von Wilpert January 12, 2018
https://www.epi.org/publication/ten-actions-that-hurt-workers-during-trumps-first-year/
It is unnerving to see Maga people satisfied to seek nothing greater than validation....Trump supplies that with rigor. Yes. It's ok to be greedy, racist, and a rapist.