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jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
Wed May 24, 2023, 02:45 PM May 2023

Trump's arrest, while imminent, will wait until when/if he loses the Republican nomination.

Justice is political. At least that's the way it seems to be shaking out.

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Trump's arrest, while imminent, will wait until when/if he loses the Republican nomination. (Original Post) jaxexpat May 2023 OP
and if he doesn't lose the nomination, what then? vlyons May 2023 #1
Then he will walk free and the Republicans will do what they are destined to do,..... jaxexpat May 2023 #8
Sez Who? MineralMan May 2023 #2
Sez me? CommonHumanity May 2023 #6
Well, when someone comes on DU and makes blanket statements like this MineralMan May 2023 #9
I hear you CommonHumanity May 2023 #21
I don't believe that. The trial in New York is scheduled in March and and it appears an Demsrule86 May 2023 #3
Everything you wrote is incorrect. No link I see. Demsrule86 May 2023 #4
And you know this how? Ocelot II May 2023 #5
So, not "imminent" sarisataka May 2023 #7
Thank you. You saved me from saying that. BlackSkimmer May 2023 #10
Are you talking DOJ? gab13by13 May 2023 #11
Based only on past experience, my money is on Garland suspending... Girard442 May 2023 #12
How much past experience do we have prosecuting former presidents Ocelot II May 2023 #23
Bingo, Girard442. jaxexpat May 2023 #25
That's your opinion. We'll see how it plays out. Election is 18 months away if my math is right. emulatorloo May 2023 #13
I don't think so. That's nearly a year away and I can't imagine why there would Vinca May 2023 #14
Yes sounds like Smith is about done with Maralago Docs case, and he's got Pence's testimony on J6. emulatorloo May 2023 #18
Probably right. kentuck May 2023 #15
I think he's going to get arrested in August, in Georgia. GoodRaisin May 2023 #16
I question why it's taking so damn long! Emile May 2023 #17
Garland waited a year and a half gab13by13 May 2023 #19
I don't think so Fiendish Thingy May 2023 #20
Could very well happen like that, or a 100 other scenarios. There is one trial tentatively scheduled Silent Type May 2023 #22
Link? obamanut2012 May 2023 #24
Nope malaise May 2023 #26
That's my hope as well. jaxexpat May 2023 #27
 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
8. Then he will walk free and the Republicans will do what they are destined to do,.....
Wed May 24, 2023, 03:04 PM
May 2023

fracture and become an even more fragmented minority party than they've secretly been for decades. All this while running a losing candidate.

CommonHumanity

(363 posts)
6. Sez me?
Wed May 24, 2023, 03:01 PM
May 2023

Mineral man, I say this with respect and friendliness:

You are intelligent, interesting and well-spoken as well as having lots of good things to say. But, in my opinion, you sometimes sound a little condescending. Maybe posters don't have the depth of knowledge you have or ability to find the words to thoroughly explain themselves. I mean no harm to you. Really I don't, but why not avoid making others feel diminished if you can. Not a blanket criticism. Just a thought for possible consideration.

MineralMan

(151,259 posts)
9. Well, when someone comes on DU and makes blanket statements like this
Wed May 24, 2023, 03:07 PM
May 2023

with no supporting evidence, I and others here are going to ask, or even demand, more information. We might even ask who the poster is and how they know what is going to happen.

That's not condescending, it's simply questioning a broad, unsupported statement.

Normally, a statement like the one in the OP cries out for supporting links and other information. However, if someone is just pulling such a statement out of thin air, the words, "I think" or In my opinion," should preface the statement.

Why should we not demand that such statements be supported in some way?

If I make such a statement, I'm going to expect someone to question it. So, if it's just my opinion or supposition, I'm going to say that. I'm not going to pretend that I have some sort of inside scoop on something.

You're welcome to question my approach. However, you'll always get my response to your questions.

CommonHumanity

(363 posts)
21. I hear you
Wed May 24, 2023, 03:50 PM
May 2023

Thank you for replying to me! I agree with every one of your points 100%. Totally valid. Presenting information as a given with no background, context, backup or references is not helpful and, in fact, can set off alarm bells for no good reason.

I just meant maybe soften the delivery a little. Not everyone has the skills, capacities or sometimes just the spare brain power to present an appropriately backed-up post and for those folks it can be intimidating to post. I'm not particularly inferring that is the case for the person who posted the original statement since I know nothing about them. I'm just saying it might be intimidating for those who are less erudite. Maybe the post we're discussing isn't even a good example. I just know that sometimes I kind of shudder for the poster when replies have a flavor of criticism or condescension and that sometimes there is an gentler way to say things. I feel like I kind of got of track by making this case to you because you post is not the best example by far. It was just an example that came up. So apologize for that. I probably should have waited for a more explicit case.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
3. I don't believe that. The trial in New York is scheduled in March and and it appears an
Wed May 24, 2023, 02:54 PM
May 2023

indictment is imminent in both Georgia and the Documents case.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
10. Thank you. You saved me from saying that.
Wed May 24, 2023, 03:08 PM
May 2023

"Imminent" might be one of the most overused adjectives on DU.

I still remember when Gaetz's arrest was imminent according to posters here.

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
11. Are you talking DOJ?
Wed May 24, 2023, 03:15 PM
May 2023

Fani Willis is going to indict numerous people, we know that because she said it. Politics has no effect on Fani.

The Alvin Bragg criminal trial is already scheduled for this March, no politics involved there.

I assume you must be talking about DOJ and it sure looks to me that DOJ is getting ready to indict. Once Trump is indicted the trial can happen later.

Girard442

(6,885 posts)
12. Based only on past experience, my money is on Garland suspending...
Wed May 24, 2023, 03:21 PM
May 2023

...prosecution some time in April or May of 2024 because DOJ doesn't want to be seen interferring with the election.

Ocelot II

(130,516 posts)
23. How much past experience do we have prosecuting former presidents
Wed May 24, 2023, 05:09 PM
May 2023

for obstruction of justice, violations of the espionage act, mishandling government documents, and interfering with official proceedings? None, right?

Based on that nonexistent past experience, how can any assumptions be made about what is likely to happen?

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
13. That's your opinion. We'll see how it plays out. Election is 18 months away if my math is right.
Wed May 24, 2023, 03:26 PM
May 2023

Vinca

(53,986 posts)
14. I don't think so. That's nearly a year away and I can't imagine why there would
Wed May 24, 2023, 03:28 PM
May 2023

be that much of a delay. I think if it happens it will be this summer.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
18. Yes sounds like Smith is about done with Maralago Docs case, and he's got Pence's testimony on J6.
Wed May 24, 2023, 03:36 PM
May 2023

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
19. Garland waited a year and a half
Wed May 24, 2023, 03:38 PM
May 2023

to seriously investigate Trump and his inner circle, Jack Smith is playing catch up.

Fani Willis started investigating Trump in March of 2021 and it has taken her this long to dot her i's and cross her t's because I believe she is going to run a RICO prosecution. DOJ should have done what Fani did, the fake elector scheme was done throughout numerous states, the trial should be held in DC, Trump will try to get Fani's trial moved out of Fulton county to a Magat friendly county.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,219 posts)
20. I don't think so
Wed May 24, 2023, 03:42 PM
May 2023

When Smith or Willis are ready to indict, they’ll move forward, regardless of the calendar.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
22. Could very well happen like that, or a 100 other scenarios. There is one trial tentatively scheduled
Wed May 24, 2023, 04:11 PM
May 2023

for March 2024, but a lot can happen.

Nobody knows what will happen, although many are convinced he will be indicated, convicted, and imprisoned. Of course, I was so convinced Patrick Fitzgerald was going to arrest george war bush that I woke up and checked the news several times a night for months.

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