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Behind the Aegis

(56,216 posts)
Thu May 25, 2023, 12:28 AM May 2023

Hate pastor says trans-supportive parents should be "shot in back of the head"


"We can string them up above a bridge so that the public can see the consequences of that kind of wickedness."
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Ahate preacher told his church’s congregation that parents who allow their children to have “a transgender surgery” should be shot in the back of the head and hung from a bridge as an example to the public. However, gender-affirming genital surgeries aren’t conducted on children.

These comments came from Jason Graber — a New Independent Fundamental Baptist (New IFB) preacher at Sure Foundation Baptist Church in Spokane, Washington.

He then pretended to eat his own vomit in front of his congregation to show how serious he was.

“Any parent that would have their child, would have a transgender surgery done on them, any parent that would do that, they just need to be shot in the back of the head,” Graber said. “They need to be convicted in trial and immediately shot in the back of the head. Okay, and then we can string them up above a bridge so that the public can see the consequences of that kind of wickedness.”

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Actually, he has called for all allies and the GLBT community to be executed.
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Hate pastor says trans-supportive parents should be "shot in back of the head" (Original Post) Behind the Aegis May 2023 OP
From the Article: "However, gender-affirming genital surgeries aren't conducted on children." Galraedia May 2023 #1
Under his eye MissB May 2023 #2
Remind me to never go to his church calguy May 2023 #3
"I can't imagine what kind of people would sit through a sermon like that." B.See May 2023 #10
OK you asked for it, now you're gonna get it KS Toronado May 2023 #19
Can he show the part of the Bible that says it's okay to kill them? PoindexterOglethorpe May 2023 #4
Have you read the book? ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #29
I've only read a small part of it. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2023 #33
If there are bullets in need of a skull, this loser should donate his! Mopar151 May 2023 #5
Yet again he proves that religion is POISON. roamer65 May 2023 #6
Check this guys computer vercetti2021 May 2023 #7
My first thought too! Definitely a perv. n/t ms liberty May 2023 #23
Remove his tax exempt privileges. This is hate and misinformation not Jesus loves you Deuxcents May 2023 #8
agreed BlueWaveNeverEnd May 2023 #26
That jesus guy promoted a bunch of hate of his own ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #30
same ol crap for over 2000 yrs now nt msongs May 2023 #9
It's okay if you're a Christian... Permanut May 2023 #11
"He then pretended to eat his own vomit...." Blue Owl May 2023 #12
It would be nice if these guys would talk to a doctor before mouthing off. TreasonousBastard May 2023 #13
You gotta wonder where these people get their "inspiration." DFW May 2023 #14
Christianity BlueIdaho May 2023 #15
Yes, Indeedy Duppers May 2023 #18
Mom knows best... BlueIdaho May 2023 #20
"Amen." Duppers May 2023 #21
Why qualify it with American? ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #32
It doesn't surprise or really shock me anymore. Lady Freedom Returns May 2023 #16
He's going to be surprised where he wakes up in the next life. Kablooie May 2023 #17
Why would he? ExWhoDoesntCare May 2023 #34
Oh REALLY now...? Montauk6 May 2023 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore May 2023 #24
Time for this church to pay taxes. nt Hotler May 2023 #25
Bet he's a child molester RussBLib May 2023 #27
Out in Spokanistan, naturally. Aristus May 2023 #28
As a parent with a trans child sarisataka May 2023 #31
Kinda hard to take a guy who set up a church in an old house seriously jmowreader May 2023 #35

Galraedia

(5,331 posts)
1. From the Article: "However, gender-affirming genital surgeries aren't conducted on children."
Thu May 25, 2023, 12:37 AM
May 2023

I'm not sure why more democrats aren't pointing this out. You have to be over 18 to qualify for sex reassignment surgery.

calguy

(6,168 posts)
3. Remind me to never go to his church
Thu May 25, 2023, 12:39 AM
May 2023

I can't imagine what kind of people would sit through a sermon like that.

B.See

(8,867 posts)
10. "I can't imagine what kind of people would sit through a sermon like that."
Thu May 25, 2023, 12:52 AM
May 2023

People who are just as pathologically SICK as HE is, that's who.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
4. Can he show the part of the Bible that says it's okay to kill them?
Thu May 25, 2023, 12:41 AM
May 2023

Isn't the original commandment a straight forward "No kill". At least that's what a Jewish friend of mine once said.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
29. Have you read the book?
Thu May 25, 2023, 11:28 PM
May 2023

At all?

Because it's all for killing more often than it's not.

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

--Leviticus 20:13


It also commands the murder of disobedient or mouthy children, non-believers, people who follow other religions, witches, blasphemers, false prophets, anyone approaching the tabernacle, anyone working on the Sabbath, the curious, sinners, the families of sinners--and more!

Read 'em and weep:

https://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
33. I've only read a small part of it.
Fri May 26, 2023, 12:07 AM
May 2023

I was raised Roman Catholic, and we were absolutely discouraged from reading the Bible on our own.

Somewhere in my 20s I decided I needed to read it. And so I started with the Old Testament. Honestly, Genesis reads like science fiction to someone who while at least nominally Christian, has never ever read it. I did notice the inconsistencies along the way. And at least some of the killing. Can't remember if I got as far as Leviticus, but yeah. The Bible has a lot of stuff in it that ought to horrify decent people who are banning books these days.

Essentially, this is why (while I have my own strong spiritual beliefs) I am utterly opposed to organized religion of any kind.

Mopar151

(10,349 posts)
5. If there are bullets in need of a skull, this loser should donate his!
Thu May 25, 2023, 12:41 AM
May 2023

I'm big on the 1st Amendment 'n all - but these hate preachers have gone beyond yelling fire in a crowded theater! As have Muslims who advocate (or carry out)"death to infidels" because of a "fatwah" issued by a preacher halfway around the world.

Does "Freedom of Religion" give constitutional protection to whatever "Holy War" some sketchy preacher wants to wage?

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
30. That jesus guy promoted a bunch of hate of his own
Thu May 25, 2023, 11:29 PM
May 2023

But you'd have to read the book to know that truth.

Permanut

(8,572 posts)
11. It's okay if you're a Christian...
Thu May 25, 2023, 12:59 AM
May 2023

You know, that religion that teaches love, tolerance, patience, kindness and mercy.

Blue Owl

(59,627 posts)
12. "He then pretended to eat his own vomit...."
Thu May 25, 2023, 12:59 AM
May 2023

Need anyone say any more? This guy is mentally unstable….

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
13. It would be nice if these guys would talk to a doctor before mouthing off.
Thu May 25, 2023, 02:00 AM
May 2023

Although they would probably ste the doctor is ignorant because he or she doesn't accept the inerrant Bible.

Intersex children are around 1 percent of births in the US and things are rapidly changing. In the old days, the doc would simply snip off the male package, because it was easier, and present the baby girl to the happy parents. Aside from that snippage not always being so easy or apparrent, we are in a new age and even the UN has become involved, so I have no idea what they are doing now.

My point, however, is that preachers have even less idea than I have, but can cause far more damage, so the more decent ones tend to shut up about the whole thing.

"Judge not, lest ye be judged."

DFW

(60,436 posts)
14. You gotta wonder where these people get their "inspiration."
Thu May 25, 2023, 02:21 AM
May 2023

Noah, I want you to build an Ark.

RIGHT! What‘s an ark?

Duppers

(28,476 posts)
18. Yes, Indeedy
Thu May 25, 2023, 03:00 AM
May 2023

The Sickos thrive in the pews, do they not.

And most are obsessed not with being kind and compassionate but with sexuality! At least that was what my mother's version of what Southern Baptists were all about.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
20. Mom knows best...
Thu May 25, 2023, 03:04 AM
May 2023

The chances of finding a message of love, tolerance, peace, and compassion in an American Christian church are slim and few.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
32. Why qualify it with American?
Fri May 26, 2023, 12:06 AM
May 2023

Because the ones overseas aren't any better.

christians in Serbia were murdering christians in Croatia back in the 90s. Oh, and Muslims in Bosnia & Kosovo. What do you think the difference is between Serbs, Croats, Bosnians and Kosovans, anyway? That Balkan nonsense has always had religion as a major source of conflict.

It was also christians mass-murdering other christians in Rwanda, you know. The Rwandan courts have even convicted multiple christian clergy for killing Tutsi themselves, or assisting in massacres of them. One infamous priest ratted out some 2000 Tutsi who had taking sanctuary in his church, and gave the Hutu permission to bulldoze the building--with the Tutsi still inside. But that's nothing new for catholics. All the way back in 1208 CE, it was Arnaud Amalric, Abbot of Citeaux and papal legate, who gave permission to the Crusader army he was leading to set fire to a church in Béziers, France, where 20,000 (mostly) Cathars had sought sanctuary. Anyone who tried to escape was hacked to death by Amalric's army. His exact command to start the killing was, "Slaughter them all."

A root cause of the Vietnam War, at least for the Vietnamese people themselves, was religious conflict, Namely, a catholic minority propped up into unearned power by European colonialists who mistreated Buddhists in multiple ways, including by taking US foreign aid and distributing it only to catholics.

christians massacred Jews during the Holocaust. And on multiple occasions before it. And on multiple occasions after it.

So, as you can see, the "slim and few chances" of finding a message of love, tolerance, peace and compassion in that religion isn't limited to America. The hate and violence are international.

And always have been.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,198 posts)
16. It doesn't surprise or really shock me anymore.
Thu May 25, 2023, 02:46 AM
May 2023

This hate preachers say any and everything to feed the hate of their followers.The more they feed it, the more thier followers will put in the collection plates.

That's why their followers go to their church. Hearing the preacher say all the things they believe. It makes the haters feel justified in their hate.

Just a poisonous cycle with no end.

Kablooie

(19,121 posts)
17. He's going to be surprised where he wakes up in the next life.
Thu May 25, 2023, 02:53 AM
May 2023

And no chance to make amends either.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
34. Why would he?
Fri May 26, 2023, 12:08 AM
May 2023

His book supports much of what he advocates.

It helps to read it. All of it.

Montauk6

(9,340 posts)
22. Oh REALLY now...?
Thu May 25, 2023, 03:23 AM
May 2023

What, too cowardly to look them in the eye?

TFG was a real blessing and curse.

Blessing: He exposed the Right's downright evil, remove all masks, etc.

Curse: Because of said exposure, these cockroaches that were hidden in basement meetings, Dark Webs and shortwave radio have reached the surface and now it's just an all-out infestation.

Response to Behind the Aegis (Original post)

RussBLib

(10,756 posts)
27. Bet he's a child molester
Thu May 25, 2023, 12:17 PM
May 2023

So many of these pastors with quack churches are criminals. Not to mention the Catholic churches.

Aristus

(72,525 posts)
28. Out in Spokanistan, naturally.
Thu May 25, 2023, 12:22 PM
May 2023

Jesus, dude. Take that garbage across the border to Idaho. We don't need that shit here.

jmowreader

(53,395 posts)
35. Kinda hard to take a guy who set up a church in an old house seriously
Fri May 26, 2023, 12:23 AM
May 2023

Given that, his den of iniquity is at 307 W. Francis Avenue in Spokane. If you'd care to go up there and inform Pastor Graber he's going to hell, drive up Division to Francis, turn left, go down three blocks and it's on the left. Spa Jonathan is next door if you need a pedicure before you go in, and there's a Dairy Queen across the street because condemning Nazis to hell is thirsty work.

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