shop at amazon or even walmart instead of target

[moonshinegnomie]

yes i know amazon and walmart are evil. but target needs to pay a price for their cowardly decision on pride merchandise. they are a billion dollar corporation and when you get down to it dollars are all that matters . they decided that caving to right wing extremists is a good business move. they need to pay a heavy price for their cowardliness.
If you cant bring yourself to shop either of those places find something else but anywhere but target

[AllaN01Bear]

1. necessary of 2 evils . when u r lo income u need to make a chice . sorry for

just letters for some words , fingers aint working right this pm.i am tired of the rs pulling weight in this country. and it is a noizy few.

[Ocelot II]

2. Another take on Target's decision:

The problem wasn't just that the wingnuts were boycotting Target; it's also that their employees were being harassed and threatened and merchandise was being damaged. Their position is that they had an obligation to protect their employees and shoppers from aggressive, threatening and violent behavior. This editorial addresses the dilemma, for what it's worth:

While it is deeply disturbing that the Pride merchandise generated threats, Target is nevertheless taking the conscientious course of action. Shootings in public places are tragically common in the United States. Firearms are also far too easy to obtain for someone with ill intentions.

The situation's ongoing risk to shoppers and Target staff is both blindingly obvious and unacceptable. Erring on the side of caution, as Target is doing, could prevent a tragedy.That reality should inform perspectives on Target's decision. It's the people who trashed the product displays or making threats who deserve condemnation. The retailer is taking responsible steps to fulfill its most important obligation to those on store premises: their personal safety...

Target clearly sees Pride merchandise as a business opportunity. It should be free to offer these products without fear of harm to employees or customers. That it had to take protective measures is a disheartening reflection — on multiple levels — on the age in which we live.

https://www.startribune.com/target-puts-store-safety-first-as-it-must/600277533/

[Takket]

17. This

they were forced to do this because of terrorist threats. i can't blame them for that. Those responsible should be hunted down and jailed.

[iemanja]

19. Those who issued the threats need to be in prison

THAT is the solution.

[moonshinegnomie]

20. so i guess its time for the LGBTQ cominuty to start disrupting evangelical church services

and threaten the attendees. then the church will have an obligation to stop pushing an anti LGBTQ agenda..

[Buns_of_Fire]

24. Boycotts can be survived. Harm to their employees/customers is unacceptable.

Being put in this position is a lose/lose situation for Target. Since many of these wackos are armed and only barely in control of their lizard brains, erring on the side of caution seems to be a responsible approach.

[moonshinegnomie]

29. guy comes in to target and threatens employees arrest them.

as for the argument that those whackos might be armed thats an excuse

[krawhitham]

32. Does Target have cops at every store?

I've worked retail before, 99% of the people that make threats leave right after making the threat. Then you and the store have to worry about them coming back with an AR-15

Most are just terrorizing (they know what they are doing, they threaten, they leave, they make you worry. the terrorizing is the point for most), but some follow through

[quaint]

25. Bullseye. You are correct.

Target employees should not have to work in fear.

I am a strong ally but not gonna hate on Target for this decision.

[krawhitham]

28. THIS

[Hortensis]

41. Agree. And I spotted Target significant points for stocking

pro-LGBTQ+ merchandise in the first place. Then took them away, back to baseline.

I haven't been in Target for a while, but I've noticed questionable merchandise in other supposed family department stores that I felt was over the line. LGBtQ+ colored flowers and unicorns on children's clothing and backpacks fine, overtly sexual motifs no.

I once had to explain to my DIL what the Gadsden flag snake symbolized to many after she grabbed a tshirt featuring it in a Dillard's for our grandson. She thought he'd like the tough-looking snake. She didn't know, assumed it was inoffensive because it was being sold in Dillards in the children's department. She determined later that it wouldn't be allowed at school.

[Blue Owl]

3. Target's HQ is based in Minnesota

The state of Minnesota has just recently taken great strides in passing progressive legislation, so I am surprised that one of their biggest corporate retailers is taking such a drastic step backwards. It doesn't make any sense!

[Ocelot II]

6. See #2.

Say you're the owner of a store that sells LGBTQ-friendly merchandise, and one day some lunatic comes in and busts up a display, punches an employee, and tells the manager if they don't stop selling this stuff that his people will come in and shoot everybody in the store and set the place on fire. You tell the guy to fuck off, then call the cops and they take the guy away. The next day his pal comes in, shoots everybody, and sets the place on fire. You see the dilemma? And the liability?

[moonshinegnomie]

16. so just give in to threats?

i guess its time for the lgbtq community to start disrupting evangelical church services and threatening attendees. the chirch would then have a responsibility to stop pressing an anti gay agenda

[Ocelot II]

22. What would you do?

Would you tell your front-line employees to just deal with it; putting up with threats and harassment are part of their job? Guy threatens to shoot up the store; you ignore the threat and he does it. You explain, "Yeah, he did say he was going to kill everybody in the store, but we didn't want to give in to threats." Hope you've got a good lawyer, a lot of insurance, and no conscience.

[moonshinegnomie]

26. guy threatens to shoot up the store? arrest him

thats not ignoring it. its a simple solution.

[krawhitham]

30. Yeah because people who threaten to shoot up the store stick around for the cops to show up

No, they leave and then the store has to worry about them coming back with an AR-15

Do you think Target has armed guards to keep the terrorist on site until the cops show up?



How many people got shot over a simple face mask, more than a few

[lame54]

42. Safety - they received threats regarding their employees

[GreenWave]

4. Also E bay and "boutiques".

And E bay auctions. (Psst. Don't change your bid but do make it with only 30 seconds to go.)

A song to inspire my fellow e bay auction winners...

[MOMFUDSKI]

5. I will be sending an email

To target corporate letting them know I will not be shopping there anymore. Gotta make noise.

[Ocelot II]

8. See #6. It's not a simple situation.

[quaint]

27. They hire high schoolers. Some on the Autism spectrum.

There are situations when pragmatism has to top idealism.

[LNM]

40. They hire people with Down's Syndrome too

This is about keeping their workforce safe.

[JanMichael]

7. Costco

[edisdead]

9. Horrible take.

While target could have stood up against this, it would be asking its employees to take on these dangerous nutjobs. That is a lot to ask of entry level retail workers.

[JI7]

10. Target's decision had to do with threats to employees

[Ocelot II]

12. That's the problem they're facing.

Some of these wackos carry guns. I get that we don't want them to cave in to the demands of bigots, but low-wage front-line employees, some just teenagers, are having to deal with hostile assholes who are damaging merchandise and threatening them with harm. Boycotting Target is not the answer.

[brooklynite]

11. Perhaps the reason can be found in this video

Link to tweet

[Ocelot II]

14. Yup. At least that dingbat wasn't carrying a gun.

I do love it that he was going to buy the t-shirt so he could burn it. The stupid also burns...

[LiberalFighter]

13. I will not shop at WalMart and haven't at Amazon.

It is either Kroger, Meijer, or Costco.

[taxi]

15. To not shop there, or let them know why you will not shop there, is tacit approval of their actions

Target, Chic Filet, that arts and craft store, etal have no idea what's going on if they're not told. There is a Target that I will stop at on my way home tomorrow. I have 5 minutes to spare so I will go to the customer service desk and ask for the manager. I will tell him or her that allowing the people that threaten your workers, damage merchandise, or disrupt your business will only continue to do that with tacit approval. I will tell him/her that there are many online who don't say what I'm saying, instead they talk of boycots or shopping elsewhere. It is up to Target to announce that anyone breaking the law in their store will be arrested. I know that as the manager of a single store you do not make corporate decisions, but you are the eyes and ears of corporate and being able to tell this to the district manager is why you are in charge of this store.

If we don't tell them they will never figure it out.

[iemanja]

18. I intend to continue to shop at Target

It's a few blocks from my house. No corporation meets high standards, and we have to shop somewhere. Target at least pays decent wages. They made their decision based on the safety of their employees and customers. The solution is to arrest those making the threats. Endangering the lives of employees and putting them out of work does not solve the problem.

[usedtobedemgurl]

21. If I was an employee at Target....

I would feel a lot safer with their decision. No one should be terrorized because they work at a certain chain. I am sure it was a tough situation. You never want to give in to terrorists. When our side does boycotts, we don’t include terrorizing the employees of that chain. Considering how many unstable gun nuts there are, Target may have saved lives by pulling merchandise. It is imperative for companies to take a stand, but this demonstrates, to me, they have their heart in the right place. So many companies treat their employees like $hit. It is great their employees matter to them. Just my opinion.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

23. Spare me the talk about Target protecting its employees. If they gave a shit about employees, it

would let them organize and have a say in their own protection. It could also use its expensive public-private partnership with the cops for security as well, instead of turning it on the communities it's located in.

[Eko]

31. Isnt that what the bigots want us to do?

To boycott them for the whole pride controversy that they made up?

[Prairie_Seagull]

33. The easy answers don't live here anymore. We all know what the answers are but part of the country-

can't or won't see them. We are all going to need to accept that more risk is part of our lives now IMO. I can see the stores dollars and sense decision but I can also see that if we always capitulate the problem worsens. The easy answers don't live here anymore.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

34. For me Amazon is faster and Walmart is way closer anyway....

So....

Mind you, if I got a little extra money, the long trip to the little corner store across from the Ronstadt bus station downtown ( Johnny Gibson's Downtown Market) is a plus.

They have the best bacon and sausage. And fresh vegetables. There dairy is not bad either. But one does have to pay for quantity.

And they serve, in my opinion, the best cup of coffee in town. It's cheap and oh so good. Only thing cheap in the store but the quality is up there with the all the stuff they sell.

It part convenience store, part grocery store.

There's been times I've gone there on a Sunday morning to buy a cup of coffee and a news paper to read while waiting for the bus back to the apartment. The busses are even hour on Sundays so it makes for a nice outing once in a while when I feel up to it.

I haven't been there for a while though. Thinking about it, maybe I'll try this Sunday. Put Sonny's vest and shoes on him and take a trip.

If you're in the area and see a woman woman in a wheelchair with a Chihuahua in a service vest..... I made it!

[Sneederbunk]

35. Can't keep track of all the businesses I am suppose to boycott.

[Raine]

36. I thought the Right Wingers were already boycotting Target

so now the Left is going to boycott Target too?

[ificandream]

37. Don't blame Target. Blame the idiots who threatened their employees.

They made a smart move. It's too bad it's being framed as them being cowardly. The reality is they were brave to do it. They care about their employees. We need to make it clear that it was domestic terrorism that caused this move and nothing else.

[themaguffin]

38. I will continue to shop at Target

[sarisataka]

39. I went to our local target yesterday

All the pride merchandise is available and on display right up front. Target also is inclusive in selecting models for their advertising, plus sized, multi-cultural, disabled, etc. They pay their employees better and are more concerned for their safety.

But I'll ignore all of that and shop Walmart...