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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGOFUNDME The family of the Young man in Citi Bike Incident.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/the-family-of-the-young-man-in-citi-bike-incident?utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet&utm_content=undefined&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_term=undefined
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Family raising money based on lies and disinformation
its a look.
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)yardwork
(61,711 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)It's some rando anonymous person "collecting money".
"We are assisting the family of the young man..."
Complete scam.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)What does he have expenses for?
Surprised someone hasn't started one for him here yet. You know? Kind of put their money where their mouths are?
Won't hold my breath.
XanaDUer2
(10,738 posts)MichMan
(11,974 posts)Just like PT Barnum said......
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)A few of which have been shown to be pure grift, and probably there are others as well.
I never donated to one again after the Torch the Witch saga.
Sympthsical
(9,120 posts)"Send cash, because we need to show the world we can still call white women Karens!"
I mean . . . yeah, that's a look.
(I feel like society is going insane now. Just completely losing the plot.)
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)"We are assisting the family of the young man..."
It's some random anonymous person looking to cash in.
Dr. Strange
(25,925 posts)That way he can keep it all day without having to share it with anyone.
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)Starting a grift.
Sympthsical
(9,120 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)What happened to that?
I also remember when frontline medical workers were hailed as heroes here.
Perhaps that depends on their appearance?
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)On its face, it's not even run by the family - as if there was anything for which they needed to be compensated.
Maybe the OP is one of the recipients of the money.
Renew Deal
(81,873 posts)debm55
(25,412 posts)What a shitshow.
LexVegas
(6,098 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,460 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Everything else aside, you have no idea who is running this, how they are related to the supposed beneficiary, or what the money is for.
Please consider deleting your post and not bringing a probable scam to your fellow DUers.
This is completely irresponsible.
Croney
(4,670 posts)are being harrassed. It was his duly rented bike and she tried to take it. His GFM has almost $49,000 toward the $120,000 goal, so many people think he's a worthy recipient.
I must have missed sn update or something. I did stop following the story after the first day or two.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Please identify the recipient of the money.
Go ahead. I'll wait.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,965 posts)1. We don't even know that this GFM is by him or that he will see anything. It reads like a scam.
2. It wasn't his bike. We have seen both receipts. He docked it, and she rented it 5 minutes later.
Croney
(4,670 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)The boys were trying to avoid the fee increase at 45 minutes by repeatedly riding, docking, checking the same bikes back out.
They had had the bikes since 5:53 - well over the 45 minutes. They apparently dock the rare ebikes and hover over them to prevent anyone else from checking them out while they reset the rate clock back to zero.
Nothing wrong with checking the bikes back out - BUT - at least the spirit of the rule is to make the bike available again after 45 minutes to anyone who wants it. The boys' behavior (hovering over bikes they no longer had a right to possess) prevented anyone else from checking them out (while saving them the rate increase they would otherwise incur).
I can't tell from any of the others whether the other bikes at that station were ebikes or not - but from the boys' description of how rare they are makes me think that they were hovering over the only ebikes at that station - which would also explain why the woman wanted that particular bike.
IbogaProject
(2,841 posts)I think we should wait and see how this plays out in litigation. I made another comment on this post about how that corporate branded system is a neighborhood blight. I live two blocks away from there. They were trying to wait whatever the timeout between rentals was, once he docked it she hopped on, then he re-docked it and she held fast. I think the worst and think these kids were looking to create social media outrage. Poor mom to be was tired after a likely long day at the world's oldest public hospital. NYC only has about 7 that specialize in caring for all comers with relatively lenient billing practices. I go even though I have insurance as I like that the clinic has a teaching component.
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)I don't think they necessarily started out that way - I think they really were just trying to game the system by keeping possession of the bikes when they had no right to do so, and saw an opportunity to create outrage.
(According to them (and their receipts) they docked their bikes at 7:19 and were straddling them to prevent anyone else from taking them - except for the one who was standing near holding on to the handlebars. So she didn't immediately hop on once he docked it. She hopped on after asking all of the others, being turned down, then she came to the one which was not being straddled and checked it out at 7:24).
I also think her reaction, assuming their story is accurate about what happened before the video started, was an overreaction to the situation. She can't be oblivious to either the danger created by a white woman screaming that she needs protection from black teens - or that such a reaction might go viral. I'd like to think that in her situation I would have called CitiBike, or perhaps hospital security if it was on hospital property, or found some way less likely to put the boys in danger - or create a viral video than screaming.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)It was a dispute over a bike rental that escalated into buffoonery.
They were trying to game the system and she was flexing her privilege by yelling help help youre hurting my fetus!
Hurting my fetus? Really? Her reaction was disingenuous and over the top. Thats why this went viral.
This could have been a dispute over any number of things people in the city argue over - parking spots, cutting in line at Starbucks, gym equipment, etc. What made this special was the over the top act the nurse put on.
MichMan
(11,974 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,343 posts)That alone should catch her a battery and robbery charge.
BannonsLiver
(16,460 posts)Croney
(4,670 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)He had rented and returned it (docked it), thus ending his rental
Once his rental ended, the bike opened up to be rented again
The woman rented the bike, but was prevented from taking it by the young man , who wanted to use it again
Both sides have provided receipts, and all of the receipts show that the young man was in the wrong by not letting her take the bike
Croney
(4,670 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Who is harassing him? Please provide a link to said harassment.
Good god almighty.
IbogaProject
(2,841 posts)He had returned it intending to wait the minute to rent it over. There are time limits but very short windows to rent another after returned. From what I've heard he pushed it in, she rented it then he felt it was still his he pushed it back and then rented it. So it is a very complicated situation. What is shady is how he was being filmed once the scam started. I think we all need to let this one play out in court, as both sides are lawyer-ed up. Big question is about whether there is any security footage to give better context to the situation.
As an aside, I live two blocks from where this happened. These corporate branded bike stations have been a blight. They put one on my block scamming the basic approval process by simply moving it when there was construction elsewhere. When that construction ended they simply put a new one in the old location. They never clean up around them and they are a magnet for litter. They are branded with the bank Citi-Bank, and are branded CitiBike, or Sh!ty-Bike as we call them. There was another scam a few years back where kids would switch the QR-Code stickers and someone would try to unlock one bike and another way at the far end would unlock and off the kids would go, the original renter would then be locked out of the system if they were a monthly customer.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)He intended to game the system so he could keep the bike all day and not pay the higher fee. However, once he docked it, it's wasn't his anymore. Period! I don't care if "people do this all the time". Sometimes you get away with it, sometimes you don't. it's just that simple.
ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)She got over 120 thousand within days on HER gofundme/ Her story is bullshit. Fortunately the young man in questionwho is only 17has a sister fighting for him.
yardwork
(61,711 posts)Funny how that works. When people learned the facts, most no longer believed the lies about her.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)You didn't complete your sentence.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)His sister is doing a spectacular job too. Proving the woman's case for her.
Raine
(30,540 posts)that name belongs to the young man. The woman actually is being harassed along with being out of a job.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)The receipt that HE provided PROVED his story was a lie.
Good lord.
I'm guessing you've never used a Citibike.
Response to Croney (Reply #14)
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yardwork
(61,711 posts)The woman whose rented bike was stolen out from under her has been doxxed and demonized. She's had to hire an employment attorney because she was suspended from her job. I'm not clear on how the kid has suffered. He got to keep the bike for another 45 minutes.
treestar
(82,383 posts)a lawsuit? He has no case.
The damages due to not having the bike wouldn't amount to much.
NowISeetheLight
(3,943 posts)He rented the bike earlier then checked it in. It was available to rent. If it wasn't she never would've been able to scan the QR code and reserve it.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)You missed a LOT.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)It seems common practice to dock and re-rent. The woman knows this as well as the kids.
There were other bikes, but she wanted his. He stated that he was going to re-rent it. That should be enough for any nice person. But not her. She had to make a scene to get her way against a black kid.
If the races were reversed, the press would be all over the kid. If the kids were white she wouldnt have made a scene and just used a different bike.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)What's the money for?
Who is collecting it?
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)You don't know how Citibikes work either, as you've made abundantly clear several times.
Lol.
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)because they were harder to find. So all of those other bikes may not have been ebikes (i.e. without the power boost which would make it harder for them to get back home - over an hour's ride on an ebike - and harder for her to get home.) None of the other articles has distinguished between regular bikes (apparently most of the bike stock) and ebikes.
If there were, the boys would not have needed to hover over bikes they no longer had a right to, in order to get back home. They could simply have hopped off, gone about their business, and checked out a different bike. Docking and re-renting may be common practice, but hovering over them to prevent somone else from renting them - especially if there are no other ebikes - is pretty obnoxious behavior that certainly violates the spirit of the rate increase at 45 minutes. If they wanted to maintain possession of them while standing around, they should have docked and immediately re-rented the bike rather than leaving the bike docked but insisting no one else can rent it.
treestar
(82,383 posts)it was almost scary, she was always there, working out, as if there is an addiction to that which can exist, a form of anorexia or something.
There was a shortage of stationary bikes, so you had to sign up for them - they were numbered - and were limited to 20 minutes. She signed up for every one of them, so that when she did 20 minutes on one, she could then start another 20 minutes on another one immediately.
I pointed out that she was defeating the whole purpose. She was still on a bike when it was someone else's turn, just changing to another one did not change that. They may have talked to her, since it didn't happen after that.
As to the stationary bikes, you shouldn't be able to sign up for a second one until after you clock out of the first.
As to the ebikes - it looks like they impose a brief wait time. Maybe they need to impose a longer wait time to check back out to the same person. It seems to make them less available to people who need them for quick commutes - and more available to people who are doing nothing but touring the city all day on the same bike (and have the luxury of hanging over them even when they aren't checked out to them).
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)There tend to be some people who have difficulty understanding that finding a way, within the rules, to defeat the purpose of the rules is certainly clever, but usually undesirable behavior.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Hold the Chicken!
In "A Town Like Alice" on a ranch they won't deviate from the breakfast: a steak and two eggs. The heroine is new there and the waitress sets it down saying "Only the one breakfast," the waitress says. She asks can she just have an egg, and gets the same response! No deviation at all from that menu!
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)They are entitled to run their diner their way. People who want variations could also be changing the cost of preparing the item, and impact the supply that they order.
I realize it is more of a statement on social conditions, which is what makes it a movie of its time. I would also rather frequent a more flexible eating establishment.
But then you have this:
treestar
(82,383 posts)that was unreasonable! LOL.
It's an art where to draw that line.
I just pass on ordering something if I have to alter it. Like it the #3 has mushrooms, which I don't like, I just pick something else rather than order the #3 without mushrooms. I'm not so picky and can't even understand how some people are.
The salad and then pie is like OK I want pie so I have to have salad instead of something with more calories and can make it up that way. Like ordering a diet coke when the dish you order is fattening.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)And these fellows were teenagers.
If they can't ride a regular bike, they have other problems lol.
I'm in my 60s, and I rode all over Seattle on a Lime bike (not an ebike) as I explored. Certainly for more than an hour. I remember getting off and pushing it up a hill or two lol.
I rode even further in DC on a Citibike, but it's flatter there. But there ARE hills, I can attest to that.
Maybe the fella needs money to get in shape.
treestar
(82,383 posts)to get a real bike.
I've seen plenty of those in NYC.
delisen
(6,044 posts)All my life as a women has been filled with patriarchalists telling me that my role is to be nice and not persist in insisting upon being equal.
2022 was the year women lost their right to dominion over their own bodies. This is perhaps the end result of being nice in a rigged system where males tell females how to behave themselves.
2023 needs to be the year women stop prioritizing being nice.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Women are not all peaches. Screaming about the whole thing makes me certain the kid is in the right. The other kids support him. I support them, too.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,965 posts)So there isn't a whole lot to believe? Did he want to re-rent the bike? Seems like it. Did he? No.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Makes it okay to push forward and take It away? Cuz she got her card out first?
I have my hands on an item to buy but someone grabs it and runs to the checkout first wins?
I dont care if you believe the woman why do you care if I believe three witnesses?
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,965 posts)So if she has a bike that is rented and on her account, it is OK for him to stop her from having the bike she legally rented?
The witnesses are irrelevant to the time stamps of when he docked it and she rented it. I get he wanted to re-rent the bike. He didn't. It's a bummer, but he doesn't get to just call dibs. Using your analogy, if you order a pizza for pickup, and I wait there for it to be ready and I really want it, I can just take it even though you ordered it and paid for it?
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Refusing to learn is not an admirable trait.
Learning and growing are both processes of change to which one should be open.
ruet
(10,039 posts)and say "I would like to to rent a bike" then receive an easily confusable paper ticket that showing you rented said bike? Man, technology is really something.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)There is no "card" involved dude, except online.
Once it is docked, it is for rent.
Why make comments about a service you have no inkling about how it works?
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Clearly you do not understand how bike share systems work.
You rent an available bike through an app. The bike is then electronically unlocked for your use.
You do not put your "hands on an item to buy".
That's not how this works. You don't even touch the bike to rent it.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)Do you mean the knowledge about the common practice of redocking at 45 then renting?
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)So now everyone is supposed to abide by the "common practice" of gaming the system and walk away. You'll do that next time you rent a car and someone is there waiting and tells you no, they planned to re-rent it right? It's ok if it's already on your dime right? I mean after all, it's a common knowledge.
Zeitghost
(3,869 posts)You reserve it on the app.
The evidence provided by both parties clearly show the young man returned the bike and 5 minutes later the woman rented it. The facts are pretty cut and dry.
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)All of the boys, but this one, were straddling "their" bikes. She asked each of them about rending the bikes, and then came to the one who was only touching "his" bike and hopped on it and rented it.
The boys are gaming the system. Rates increase at 45 minutes. So they ride, find a docking station, dock, then re-rent the bike. He had had this bike in his possession for about an hour and a half (with intermittent docking). They had stopped for an ice cream break, if I recall from the article, and intended to head back home.
What they should have done, if they intended to retain the bikes, was to dock and re-rent immediately - but that would take time off of their next 45 minute ride.
But - a bunch of boys with all but one straddling the bikes they rode in on is different from docking bikes, walking away, then running back to swarm her when she rented one. The former is really obnoxious behavior, but doesn't (in my mind) justify her response. The latter would certainly justify it.
So the question of what to believe, from my perspective, is whether they swarmed her out of the blue - or whether they were all straddling the bikes but one and simply refused to release them.
maxsolomon
(33,400 posts)teenage boys are not all peaches.
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)So are black teenagers.
Ace Rothstein
(3,184 posts)Do you live in oppositeland?
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)You have to step back to see the larger problem.
heh.
Ace Rothstein
(3,184 posts)LOL
MichMan
(11,974 posts)Any different? Probably been like this....
"Black kids were waiting patiently to rent a bike and a privileged White woman insisted on keeping it for herself even after they had already paid for it"
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)I would have chosen a different bike.
But you be you and I will continue to be me
Im not trying to change you. Im just stating my opinion. Everyone has one.
ProfessorGAC
(65,191 posts)Once her rental goes through, the system TELLS HER which bike to take. She didn't choose a bike.
She took the bike the system told her to take & people who had no right to interfere stopped her
Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?
Some people, usually white, are so keen to always take the POC's side, they don't even look at the facts. They judge on skin color and go from there.
Zeitghost
(3,869 posts)Full stop. She had every right to rent it, he had no right to stop her or harass her over it.
Had he wanted the bike that bad he could have continued to pay for it.
There are rules in place to keep bikes available, he tried to game the system and lost and then decided to take his anger out at a pregnant woman trying to get home from work.
yardwork
(61,711 posts)She didn't have a choice of which bike to rent. Several DUers have explained how this works.
Once the kid had docked his bike, it was available to be randomly assigned to the next user.
In any case, it's not cool to hoard bikes all day. The whole point of the 45 minute window is to allow equitable access to the bikes. This woman was getting off work and needed to get home. The kids were riding around, enjoying the summer day. Why didn't they just take another bike? Why try to keep dibs on the ones they had?
treestar
(82,383 posts)the press would be all over the "Karen." And DU would be defending him claiming he had rented it first.
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)Thank you.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)No words.
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)My take is that they both behaved badly.
The boys were abusing a system that raises rates after a 45 minute ride by docking the bikes **but attempting to retain possession of them for hours **. The boy had had possession of this bike (with several intermediate dockings) from 5:53 to 7:19, well over 45 minutes. They do this by finding a docking station, docking the bike then hanging over them so no one else can check them out. While there is nothing to prevent them from rechecking out the same bikes, the spirit of the law (which increases rates after 45 minutes) is certainly to make the bike available for any rider, not just the person who just checked the bike back in.
The woman had a right to any docked bike, and at 7:24 had checked out the bike which the boy had checked in 7:19. Because it was a docked bike, she had every right to check it out. But she certainly appears to be acting like they tried to grab the bike from her out of the blue, rather than hovering over the bikes which they had docked, but intended to check back out to avoid the 45 minute limit.
The article indicates that new ebikes are hard to find, so the boys often walk to several stations to find a new ebike. That likely answers the question as to why she didn't take a different bike - and why he wanted to hold onto the bike. Neither party has explained it, but reading between the lines, the other bikes may not have been the new ebikes (which have motors which make them easier to ride).
MichMan
(11,974 posts)If she had checked out that bike already and paid for it, was she just supposed to let them take it again and ride it as long as they wanted on her dime?
Other customers aren't required to stand down while they game the system. Just like you can't park in a parking lot with a 1 hour time limit, back your car out, pull right in again, and claim you get another 60 minutes.
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)I'd like to see a longer tape that started before she started yelling, but none have surfaced yet.
Her yelling would be justified if the boys had come up out of the blue to take the bike she had just rented. It's been described as being swarmed by these boys.
The boy's description is that all but the last were standing over "their" bikes, and that each of them declined to release the bike, but that the final boy was only standing near with his hands on the handlebars - which is why she was able to check it out.
That is still bad behavior and gaming the system, but I'm not sure it justifies the response I saw.
In the scenario the boys described, I'd have stood down and reported them to citibike which could have pulled the receipts, rather than creating a scene which any thinking person would be aware could well have resulted in violence against the boys.
MichMan
(11,974 posts)One pregnant woman vs several teenage boys. Exactly what type of violence was she going to unleash on them?
The only one who was called out as a racist, doxed and faced threats of violence was her.
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)Police who might respond, or bystanders who responded to her screams - who believed they were responding to an attack, rather than a property dispute.
treestar
(82,383 posts)anyone accused of this kind of thing always loses their job, too.
Sympthsical
(9,120 posts)One side posted to social media calling the woman a racist, knowing full well it could wreck her life.
Which it did. Suspended from her job, she and her family were doxxed and threatened (they had to go into hiding), and media were hounding and interviewing her neighbors asking if they knew about the out of control racist who lived in the building.
No, these were not equal instances of wrong doing.
People putting that video on social media knew exactly what reaction they were hoping for, and social media (and the MSM) obliged them.
And even intimating the woman was wrong for asserting her right to the bike when she was clearly in the right by all metrics is a limp take.
I get wanting to be conciliatory in some cases, but in this, it's letting injustice perpetuate. People made this woman's life hell over this.
She is blameless.
Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)And the descriptions differ in what response from the woman was justified.
The narrative justifing her response is that the boys swarmed her out of the blue to take back the bike they had docked 5 minutes earlier. If that is what happened, I agree her response is justified.
Their narrative is that all but one of the boys was stradling "their" bikes. She approached each of the other boys and asked to rent "their" bike. They each declined. She then approached the boy who was holding the handlebars, but not straddling it, and checked it out. The boys were in the wrong. No question - even by their own descriptions they had no right to bikes which were docked.
But given the racially charged country we live in, any thinking person would realize that her disproportionate response (which made it appear she believed she was under attack by a group of black teens out of the blue), might well result in violence against them. A better choice would have been to report them to Citibike - which could easily have identified them and taken appropriate contract-based actions to remedy their behavior, without endangering them.
MichMan
(11,974 posts)I'm not familiar with them.
If she gives in to them and they ride off, isn't she now financially responsible for all charges and damages while they have it ? What if they never return it at all?
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)The entire thing works through the magic of the internet.
Yes, if you rent a bike share and someone else runs off with it, you could be held liable. There are ways to report issues. I had a rental that would not close for whatever reason one time, reported it, and it turned out okay.
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)The Lime bikes I use are 1.2k. IF they finally returned it, she would be charged for all teh OT fees, and they are steep.
Ace Rothstein
(3,184 posts)If those people are on our team then I want off this ride.
ismnotwasm
(42,014 posts)Ive already donated, as soon as I found outespecially considering the asshole woman raised over $120 thousand on her atrocious behavior and desperate, but apparently effective reframing.
She could have gotten those boys killed.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)There are plenty of people on the left who are just as willing to leverage their personal biases in order to ignore facts and to spread disinformation and perpetuate bigotry as the MAGATs are.
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)The facts support her. Seeing all the folks on the left ignoring she is right and "there are plenty of people on the left who are just as willing to leverage their personal biases in order to ignore facts and to spread disinformation and perpetuate bigotry as the MAGATs are."
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)Jedi Guy
(3,254 posts)Some real sad shit, frankly.
Bonx
(2,075 posts)Mosby
(16,358 posts)I donate money for fundraisers on FB for example, but would never give anyone a dime via GFM.
sarisataka
(18,774 posts)Why do I work for a living?
All I need to do is have some petty incident put on social media and start a go fund me.
Actually it appears I may not even need to be directly involved. I can use other people's incidents...
debm55
(25,412 posts)that?
Whiskeytide
(4,463 posts)
be, and often are, wrong.
He and the other boys docked the bikes. They were therefore available to rent through the app. They did this to avoid a rate increase, and that is apparently a common practice but is likely a point of irritation to others who rent the bikes. But they still had to know that they were technically giving up their claims to the bikes. They apparently avoided losing them to another renter by staying on them until they were ready to re-rent them.
She approached and asked each of the boys if they would get off their docked bikes so she could rent one of them. They refused. But one boy wasnt sitting on his, instead standing there with his hand on the handlebar. She must have observed this, but still hopped on the bike, scanned the code and rented it through the app. You dont go to a counter and get assigned a bike and then walk around the lot looking for the bike you were assigned. You get a receipt for renting a bike when you scan its code with the app - i.e. you have to be sitting on or standing by the bike to rent it. So she rented it while he was touching it claiming dibs.
I think they were gaming the system and she knew it. I think she saw an opportunity to show them by renting the one the kid had dismounted but was still trying to claim dibs on.
They then swarmed her and harassed her because she had interfered in their scheme, such as it was. She then began dramatically screaming about being harassed by a gang of teens.
Im seeing at least 5 or 6 dick moves by everyone involved. And the battling GFM accounts just adds to that inventory.
The real question, for me, is why is this circus even news? And why have we seen at least a half dozen DU OPs on it? And why the fuck am I now posting in one? I need a GFM for mental health services!
treestar
(82,383 posts)to get us defending him no matter what he does, to show political correctness. So they can point out to white independents how unreasonable it is - you can't oppose any black person, because if you do, you'll get fired.
No one had to put the video up either. But he could see the potential value of being the victim of a racist Karen. A white kid in his position need not have bothered and if fact just let her take the bike. Had she been a black woman, he would not have bothered - or just let her take the bike.
While it can happen for real, not every difference of opinion between people of different races has to be a racist incident. If it is, we'll never be able to put an end to racism. It'll be kept alive by the victims, with these types of incidents.
Jedi Guy
(3,254 posts)Grifters gonna grift, I guess. Good fucking grief.
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