A debt ceiling deal has been reached

[angrychair]

And yet again the poor and disenfranchised shoulder the burden for the rich and powerful.

Yet again.

According to a person familiar with the agreement, the deal also would impose new work requirements for some recipients of government aid, including food stamps and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. It would put new limits on the amount of time that certain recipients of food stamps -- people under the age of 54, who do not have children -- could benefit from the program

So tired of the poor getting screwed in these deals.

[VMA131Marine]

1. Now will the House Republicans vote for it?

I have my doubts. This is a lot less than the Freedom Caucus was demanding.

[former9thward]

10. Democrats will vote for it since it was agreed to by Biden.

Most Rs will also vote for it.

[Autumn]

2. As always.

[chillfactor]

3. Not happy Joe capitulated.

[brewens]

4. Nope. Probably had no problem going that way to begin with. No excuse for that. If you have power,

you use it. Everyone knows this is only a republican shitshow when there is a Democrat President.

[betsuni]

19. "Probably had no problem going that way to begin with."

You're saying Biden wants cuts that Republicans want. On what evidence? When has he ever said that? Both Sides, no difference eh?

[brewens]

21. There's this thing called The Constitution that says Pay the bills. It's as simple as that. Playing

this game only when there is a Democrat President is embarrassing. Don't count on our sides donors to ever allow them to hold things up for demands that would actually help some of us.

[betsuni]

24. Democratic donors are conspiring to do what now?

Why wouldn't donors who support Democratic policies by contributing to Democrats not want to "actually help some of us"? I don't get it.

[emulatorloo]

27. ?

[JohnSJ]

5. It was the voters that capitulated by not coming out with at least 75% turnout to vote

Democratic.

We should have never lost those House seats in NY in 2022

and losing in 2016 because enough people voted third party or didn’t vote is unacceptable

In every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while Jill Stein received 1% of the vote
That disaster changed the entire dynamics of the SC

Blaming this on President Biden is misguided

Who do you think would get blamed if we defaulted, and people didn’t get their social security?

The illustrious press sure wouldn’t be congratulating us

The only way to stop what is happening is to win both houses, the Senate, and the WH

There is a good chance that the house magas will not vote for this, and it will be the Democrats that pull this out.

Also, a real possibility that McCarthy may lose his SOH, if one of his crazies decides to call for a new speaker

[Cha]

7. Mahalo, John! Pres Biden Does NOT

deserve to have any fingers wagged at him with all the work he's done to get the best deal Possible.

And, those of us depending on our Social Security Checiks still can't breathe properly.

[JohnSJ]

14. Fully agree Cha

[we can do it]

8. Yes, thank you. So sick and tired of misplaced blame.

[Cha]

9. As am I!

[angrychair]

20. Not misplaced blane

The Republicans held the country hostage. They got paid a ransom and the poor and disenfranchised got fucked yet again.

Yet again the poor are scapegoated as the bad guys and the people paying the price here.

[we can do it]

39. It is - enjoy wasting your energy.

[keep_left]

12. Oh, yes, it's almost certain that McCarthy is gone. It was reported that...

...he could be ousted with a single vote.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17951126

[betsuni]

18. +1

[emulatorloo]

25. ++++++++++

But of course some DU’ers thrive on misplaced anger.

[Cha]

6. And, I and Millions of others

would be Devastated If We Don't Get our Social Security Checks that allow us to live.

I've read on here that Pres Biden has done the best possible and they were actually Thanking him.. not wagging their finger at him. Which I don't think he deserves.

[angrychair]

22. You'll get your check and for that I'm happy

But we were held hostage by the Republicans and the poor have yet again been made the scapegoat and forced to pay the price while defense contractors and the wealthy continue to feed from a neverending trough of money.

[Cha]

23. TY.. I know what's going on.

[Ocelot II]

11. And how screwed would the poor have been if an agreement had not been reached?

[betsuni]

16. +1

[angrychair]

17. As I say

Compromise is great as long as you are not the one being compromised

[emulatorloo]

26. Try being angry at Republicans sometime. They control the house, even if it is by a narrow margin.

They have 99.99% of the culpability.

[angrychair]

29. Yes, this situation

Is 100% the fault of Republicans.

You miss the point that EVERY DAMN TIME stuff like this happens it's the poor that are demonized and scapegoated and forced to pay a price.
Defense contractors and the wealthy get to continue to feed at a bottomless trough of money.

That is my problem.

[emulatorloo]

31. I don't miss your point at all. That's because of the damn Republicans.

We need to hang it round their necks and get the house back.

[moondust]

13. Yabut

how are the multibillionaires supposed to become trillionaires if they have to pay taxes? Not fair!



Maybe use hostage negotiators next time.

[JohnSJ]

15. Win by huge margins in 2024

[emulatorloo]

28. +1

[BumRushDaShow]

30. There is actually an expansion of SNAP for veterans and unhoused

White House and G.O.P. Strike Debt Limit Deal to Avert Default

(snip)

But it also would expand food stamp access for veterans and the homeless, said the person, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss details of the package.

(snip)

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/27/us/politics/debt-limit-deal.html?smidurl-share

[emulatorloo]

32. Thanks for the heads up.

[angrychair]

33. Also income

And work requirements.
As someone familiar homeless vets and homeless people in general and their situations, the paperwork and process is daunting and confusing, especially for people with substance abuse issues and/or mental health issues...which describes a lot of homeless people.

[BumRushDaShow]

34. Rhiannon was mentioning that apparently "work requirements"

might not have made it in there.

I posted elsewhere in this thread - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3080101

that people forget that a law was passed under Bill Clinton that changed many of these programs over 25 years ago and included "work requirements", as well as a 5-year limit in cash assistance through TANF.

H.R.3734 - Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996

[angrychair]

35. Well aware of TANF limits

Interact with people on food assistance issues often enough.
My assumption is these were new, on top of existing, requirements.

[BumRushDaShow]

36. I don't think they have even drafted the language of the legislation yet

(something that they will be working on the next couple days)

So no one will know until those details are released. I think what was floated out there was an age change for certain programs. And the elephant in the room that is still being tackled is the Farm Bill, which is up this year, and which is where SNAP (and its line items) get specified.

[Marcuse]

37. A superpower tradition.

[angrychair]

38. Exactly

This

[betsuni]

40. Why the surprise Republicans hate the poor?

[forthemiddle]

41. And an end to the student loan pause

I heard that on TV this morning. McCarthy was saying that it will bring in 5 billion dollars a month.
I’m not sure how that will go over with young voters even though they knew it would end eventually.