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Matthew28

(1,828 posts)
Sun May 28, 2023, 02:47 AM May 2023

How would you feel about an agreement of supply for Speaker McCarthy?

Since McCarthy is willing to work with us and take grave risk of his job with pissing his right wing off with working with Biden and trying to come to a middle ground. I don't think we can afford to have someone worse replace him for doing what is best for our country with this agreement. What would you think about an agreement of supply in any speaker vote the right of his party force on him? Democrats would vote for him to remain in power. This would probably moderate him and force him out of the hands of the freedom caucus, which would result in a more moderate house that is far more stable. Why should we allow 20 extremist control the house?? When reasonable people on both sides have 10 times the number? Our goal as of this time is to defeat the freedumb caucus and letting them defeat McCarthy would make this country utterly ungovernable the next 1.5 years and we have budgets coming. We can't afford it.

This Supply agreement would be like the NDP of Canada backing the liberals and the greens supply of labor in Australia.

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How would you feel about an agreement of supply for Speaker McCarthy? (Original Post) Matthew28 May 2023 OP
/ Matthew28 May 2023 #1
no jcgoldie May 2023 #2
+1 2naSalit May 2023 #4
Even if there is some talk of this, it should be behind closed doors DFW May 2023 #3
Most likely scenario. 2naSalit May 2023 #5

Matthew28

(1,828 posts)
1. /
Sun May 28, 2023, 02:58 AM
May 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_and_supply

, confidence and supply are required for a ruling cabinet to retain power in the lower house.

A confidence-and-supply agreement is one whereby a party or independent members of parliament will support the government in motions of confidence and appropriation or budget (supply) votes, by either voting in favour or abstaining. However, parties and independent members normally retain the right to otherwise vote in favour of their own policies or on conscience on legislative bills.[1][2][3]

jcgoldie

(11,971 posts)
2. no
Sun May 28, 2023, 04:01 AM
May 2023

"willing to work with us"... what complete bullshit... he took a hostage and Biden minimized the damage... pushing "negotiations" over the debt ceiling was GOP bullshit from the start to extract blood, it was not an example of McCarthy's excellent statesmanship. Fuck him if they want to eat their own, let 'em.

DFW

(56,326 posts)
3. Even if there is some talk of this, it should be behind closed doors
Sun May 28, 2023, 04:20 AM
May 2023

Since there is a decent chance McCarthy will only be Speaker for another 18 months or so, i.e. for as long as Republicans retain a majority in the House, a discreet little 4 minute chat in some broom closet in the Capitol could let him know of our willingness to keep him on as long as he doesn‘t cave to the crazies. McCarthy could then find some unexpected backbone to stand up to them, and they‘d never know why—unless they try their one vote challenge to him, in which case they would realize too late that their move had been anticipated, and they had just given McCarthy his desperately needed justification to publicly tell them to fuck off.

2naSalit

(91,935 posts)
5. Most likely scenario.
Sun May 28, 2023, 08:19 AM
May 2023

Also, I think Biden doesn't give up anything for which there is no work around.

He's like Nancy Pelosi in that way, they know all the nooks and crannies of the Constitution and everybody's job/responsibilities better than the officeholders themselves, for most of them. Hell, they both have voted on and/or had a hand in the creation of most laws passed in the last thirty years, at least. We are blessed to have them now when we need them most.

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