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dalton99a

(94,133 posts)
Sun May 28, 2023, 11:57 AM May 2023

Jan. 6 rioters are raking in thousands in donations. Now the US is coming after their haul

https://apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-fundraisers-fines-clawback-justice-department-3490da93a6bea505e76bd249eeab72ba

Jan. 6 rioters are raking in thousands in donations. Now the US is coming after their haul
By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN

Less than two months after he pleaded guilty to storming the U.S. Capitol, Texas resident Daniel Goodwyn appeared on Tucker Carlson’s then-Fox News show and promoted a website where supporters could donate money to Goodwyn and other rioters whom the site called “political prisoners.”

The Justice Department now wants Goodwyn to give up more than $25,000 he raised — a clawback that is part of a growing effort by the government to prevent rioters from being able to personally profit from participating in the attack that shook the foundations of American democracy.

An Associated Press review of court records shows that prosecutors in the more than 1,000 criminal cases from Jan. 6, 2021, are increasingly asking judges to impose fines on top of prison sentences to offset donations from supporters of the Capitol rioters.

Dozens of defendants have set up online fundraising appeals for help with legal fees, and prosecutors acknowledge there’s nothing wrong with asking for help for attorney expenses. But the Justice Department has, in some cases, questioned where the money is really going because many of those charged have had government-funded legal representation.

Most of the fundraising efforts appear on GiveSendGo, which bills itself as “The #1 Free Christian Fundraising Site” and has become a haven for Jan. 6 defendants barred from using mainstream crowdfunding sites, including GoFundMe, to raise money. The rioters often proclaim their innocence and portray themselves as victims of government oppression, even as they cut deals to plead guilty and cooperate with prosecutors.

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Jan. 6 rioters are raking in thousands in donations. Now the US is coming after their haul (Original Post) dalton99a May 2023 OP
Get every last dime Deuxcents May 2023 #1
tax the fuck out of the platform too bringthePaine May 2023 #2
I love it SCantiGOP May 2023 #3
The marks *wont* realize it. That's why they are marks. tblue37 May 2023 #6
Out of hundreds of thousands, soldierant May 2023 #14
"The #1 Free Christian Fundraising Site" speak easy May 2023 #4
Criminals for Christ OMGWTF May 2023 #5
Jailbirds for Jesus Pinback May 2023 #21
Christians My Ass. calimary May 2023 #24
The actual political prisoners are the non-magat US citizens Artcatt May 2023 #7
and the instigators are raking in millions Marthe48 May 2023 #8
Ohhhh Hekate May 2023 #9
It's more than money AverageOldGuy May 2023 #10
Howdy Neighbor bottomofthehill May 2023 #15
Makes me smile 😊 dchill May 2023 #11
Smart; Setting Precedent to go after Trump's Ill-Gotten Gains Beetwasher. May 2023 #12
The True Graduates of Trump University. wss2001 May 2023 #13
Trashing, vandalizing the Capitol--millions of dollars in damage. scarletlib May 2023 #16
When are they going to claw back TFG's MILLIONS!?!!?! AmBlue May 2023 #17
This is seriously disgusting. Initech May 2023 #18
Drag them back into court... Iggo May 2023 #19
How about starting a conspiracy theory, that everyone who makes a donation through GiveSendGo... 70sEraVet May 2023 #20
An automatic audit from the IRS! WUNNNNNNNDERFUL!!! calimary May 2023 #25
Confiscate all of it. roamer65 May 2023 #22
I Wondered If The "Son Of Sam" Law Applied Here ChoppinBroccoli May 2023 #23
Dammit, I hope so! calimary May 2023 #26
But dont worry guys, your Dear Leader is keeping all YOUR donations! nt oldsoftie May 2023 #27
Well ain't it nice that right-wing pseudo-Christians are donating money to anti-US insurrectionists. Martin68 May 2023 #28

Deuxcents

(26,925 posts)
1. Get every last dime
Sun May 28, 2023, 12:18 PM
May 2023

They don’t seem to get that they are in prison for a reason and it’s not to profit from their behavior. No book deals, either. Shut down that so called christian go fund me site and put them out of business, too. 🤬

SCantiGOP

(14,719 posts)
3. I love it
Sun May 28, 2023, 01:18 PM
May 2023

The people who donated will realize that they have basically paid an additional voluntary tax, since the seized money will go into the general tax fund.
And the money they contribute to Trump, although they may not be smart enough to realize it, goes to pay his lawyer bills.
Less money for them to spend on guns and Hobby Lobby.

soldierant

(9,354 posts)
14. Out of hundreds of thousands,
Sun May 28, 2023, 02:52 PM
May 2023

there are usually one or two who do realize it. Never enough, and never convincing enough, to make a dent in the bloc.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
8. and the instigators are raking in millions
Sun May 28, 2023, 01:54 PM
May 2023

It'd be a hoot if one of them set the 'christian' site up and is getting a % of the donations as service fees.

AverageOldGuy

(3,838 posts)
10. It's more than money
Sun May 28, 2023, 02:29 PM
May 2023

First some background.

I live on the Virginia Northern Neck -- a peninsula of six counties bounded on the north and south by the Potomac and Rappahannock rivers, east by the Chesapeake Bay, and north by the Virginia mainland. We also are home to Northern Neck Regional Jail -- because jails are expensive to operate, Virginia has regional jails for which several counties share the cost with the state. Because of our proximity to DC, NNeck Regional houses federal prisoners awaiting trial or sentencing -- anywhere from 6 to 20 Jan 6 insurrectionists have been housed there, the last one departed about a month ago.

Back in the heyday of the Tea Party we were home to three of them, two of which died out in 2015-16, one of which (King George County Tea Party) hung on until its president -- and the only person who kept them alive -- was arrested for his part in Jan 6 -- James Russell Davis, he has yet to come to trial. https://conandaily.com/2021/07/28/james-russell-davis-biography-13-things-about-us-capitol-riot-suspect-from-king-george-virginia/

We also are home to a raving nut named John Haynes who publishes a monthly "newspaper," ("The Northern Neck Sentinel&quot distributed free that is our source for all the bullshit you have ever heard: anti-vaxx, stolen election, Democrats are commies, Joe Biden has dementia and uses a body double, and the "J6ers" (as they are know) are innocent political prisoners.

And now for the rest of the story.

About 18 months ago, some former members of one of our defunct Tea Parties reconstituted themselves as "The Northern Neck Patriots," headed by a self-appointed "pastor" who was tossed out of the Navy for refusing COVID vaccine.

The "Patriots" started weekly visits to the NNeck Regional Jail where they visited with the J6ers held there, listened to their tales of mistreatment, poor diet, beatings by guards, and the like -- all bullshit. They have sued the jail administration (all thrown out of court). The also started attending county supervisors' meetings of all NNeck counties, urging the supervisors to fire the warden, investigate the prison, and the like -- none of the supervisors took them up on it, basically listening to them then moving on to the next agenda item.

Needless to say, the "Patriots" and the "Sentinel" have been big in pushing for donations to various groups claiming to be supporting the J6ers.

Would be interesting to see who is really profiting off this.

wss2001

(85 posts)
13. The True Graduates of Trump University.
Sun May 28, 2023, 02:47 PM
May 2023

I wonder where they learned to do this?
Could it be from the grifter in chief? It’s a wonder he’s not asking for a cut!

scarletlib

(3,568 posts)
16. Trashing, vandalizing the Capitol--millions of dollars in damage.
Sun May 28, 2023, 03:01 PM
May 2023

Take the money as restitution of the taxpayers who had to pay for the damages.

AmBlue

(3,460 posts)
17. When are they going to claw back TFG's MILLIONS!?!!?!
Sun May 28, 2023, 06:50 PM
May 2023

That he scammed from countless swindled and brainwashed Americans who could ill-afford it???

Iggo

(49,928 posts)
19. Drag them back into court...
Sun May 28, 2023, 07:37 PM
May 2023

…and ask them if they were lying or telling the truth when they pleaded guilty.

I saw a Judge do that once and it was awesome. SLA member on the run for decades, arrested, pleads guilty, goes and gives an interview on the courthouse steps saying she wasn’t guilty but just plead guilty for a shorter sentence, and the judge had her dragged right back in there to reaffirm that she was in fact guilty. So awesome.

70sEraVet

(5,482 posts)
20. How about starting a conspiracy theory, that everyone who makes a donation through GiveSendGo...
Sun May 28, 2023, 08:37 PM
May 2023

will receive an audit from IRS. That should dry up the donations fast!

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,900 posts)
23. I Wondered If The "Son Of Sam" Law Applied Here
Sun May 28, 2023, 10:57 PM
May 2023

It essentially prevents criminals from profiting from their crimes. Now that they've been convicted, I would think any donations to them could be seized.

calimary

(90,021 posts)
26. Dammit, I hope so!
Sun May 28, 2023, 11:47 PM
May 2023

I learned quickly as a parent that bottom-line basic: Don’t reward bad behavior!!!

Martin68

(27,749 posts)
28. Well ain't it nice that right-wing pseudo-Christians are donating money to anti-US insurrectionists.
Mon May 29, 2023, 11:30 AM
May 2023
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