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TaraG

(28 posts)
Mon May 29, 2023, 12:47 AM May 2023

Texas Becomes Christian Theocracy

I was shocked to read online that Texas no longer recognizes separation of church and state. A law has been passed mandating posting a copy of the Ten Commandments in every classroom in the state. Far worse, they have also passed a law allowing schools to replace certified school counselors with uncertified Christian chaplains. The chaplains will be allowed to proselytize. I know I'm cynical, but my immediate thought is: "How many of these people will be pedophiles?" This is completely against the Constitutional mandate of separation of church and state, but apparently is legal now due to a recent Supreme Court ruling. The Court ruled that it is legal for a coach to pray on campus with his students, which apparently opened the floodgates to all this. More laws inserting Christianity into government are in the works in Texas. I'm horrified, and speechless.

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vlyons

(10,252 posts)
1. I'm a Buddhist and not interested in hearing about
Mon May 29, 2023, 01:16 AM
May 2023

a bronze age invisible sky god, who can suspend the laws of physics. You better believe that these right wing evangelicals won't just go after non-Christians. They will also proselytize to catholics and orthodox students. We have a lot of Hindis, Buddhists, and Moslams in Texas, who will be told that their god is not the right god.

There's a reason why the Founders instituted separation of church and state. They lived in the Age of Enlightenment and were well aware of the religious wars that had plagued Europe for centuries.

TaraG

(28 posts)
11. I am a Buddhist too...
Mon May 29, 2023, 08:19 AM
May 2023

I really wonder how long it will be before religious minorities are persecuted in Texas and Florida.

progree

(12,813 posts)
2. Ten Commandments according to Katha Pollitt, The Nation
Mon May 29, 2023, 01:18 AM
May 2023

Full Op Ed is at https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/stacked-decalogue/
If it won't let you read it for long:
https://web.archive.org/web/20210608230254/https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/stacked-decalogue/

Re: Judge Moore (Alabama) and displaying the Ten Commandments, but applies generally

...the commandments are a decidedly odd set of directives to be looming, physically or spiritually, over an American courtroom.

... Consider Commandment One: God identifies himself as God–as if you didn’t know! Who else crashes about with thunder and lightning? He reminds the Jews that he brought them out of Egypt and orders that “thou shalt have no other gods before me.” What does that mean, exactly? No other gods, period, or no other gods come first? No other gods because they don’t exist, or no other gods because they are minor and inferior and God doesn’t like them? His need for constant reassurance is one of God’s more perplexing characteristics. If you had created the universe and everything in it down to the seven-day week, would you care if people believed in you? Wouldn’t it be enough that you knew you existed? Why can’t God give anonymously? So what if people give Baal or Ishtar the credit?

In any case, God’s status anxiety has precious little to do with the civil and criminal codes of the state of Alabama, where worshiping Baal and Ishtar is legal. Commandments Two, Three and Four continue God’s preoccupation with himself. No graven images, indeed, no “likeness” of anything in nature, to which he holds the copyright; no taking his name in vain; no work on the Sabbath. Representational art and sculpture, swearing a blue streak and working on Saturday (or, in Alabama, Sunday) are all legal; nor does the law require that we honor our fathers and mothers as enjoined in the Fifth Commandment, despite God’s barely veiled threat of death and/or exile if we sass them. Adultery is legal (well, actually, not in Alabama), as is coveting your neighbor’s house, wife, servants, livestock–or husband, a possibility God seems either not to have considered or not to have minded. In fact, the only activities banned by the Ten Commandments that are also crimes under American law are murder, theft and perjury. But those are illegal (I’m guessing) under just about every civil and religious code. Even Baal and Ishtar presumably took a dim view of them.

... When you consider that God could have commanded anything he wanted–anything!–the Ten have got to rank as one of the great missed moral opportunities of all time. How different history would have been had he clearly and unmistakably forbidden war, tyranny, taking over other people’s countries, slavery, exploitation of workers, cruelty to children, wife-beating, stoning, treating women–or anyone–as chattel or inferior beings. It’s not as if God had nothing more to say. The minute he’s through with the Decalogue, he gives Moses a long list of legal minutiae that are even less edifying: what happens if you buy a Hebrew slave and give him a wife who has children (he goes free after six years, but you keep the rest of the family); what should happen if a man sells his daughter as a “maidservant” and her master decides he doesn’t fancy her after all (he can give her to his son). God enjoins us to kill witches, Sabbath violators, disrespectful children, and people who have sex with animals, but not masters who beat their slaves to death, especially if the death takes place a day or two after the beating, because the slave is the master’s “money.” No wonder the good white Christians of Alabama believed the Bible permitted slavery! It does!

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Old Crank

(6,775 posts)
5. Full employment for
Mon May 29, 2023, 02:58 AM
May 2023

Christian paedophiles act? I thought the same thing.
I think I saw a site that tracks arrests for that somewhere. So many are under or not reported.

Trenzalore

(2,575 posts)
7. No formal education requirements or certification process and unfettered access to children
Mon May 29, 2023, 04:33 AM
May 2023

Not just children, but children struggling with problems.
Yep, there are going to be quite a few pedophiles in the group.

notemason

(572 posts)
8. As I recall reading, Jesus by age twelve
Mon May 29, 2023, 05:28 AM
May 2023

had figured out that the "Golden Rule" superseded the Twelve Commandments. Why not post that in every classroom instead? Could it be because it doesn't create the divisiveness necessary for manipulation?

Trenzalore

(2,575 posts)
9. The 10 commandments are like confederate statues
Mon May 29, 2023, 05:30 AM
May 2023

It has nothing to do with honoring people from the Civil War and everything to do with conveying who is in charge.

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