DOJ - Trump Indictment Countdown

[gab13by13]

This is day 1, week 1 after Memorial Day. (I know today is the real Memorial Day.)

The narrative was that indictments will come days/weeks after Memorial Day.

C'mon Garland, the Iowa caucus is February.

[Beastly Boy]

1. Whose narrative?

If it is not Jack Smith's, there is no reason to get all worked up about it.

This countdown is about as useful as counting sheep when you can't fall asleep. Probably less so because counting sheep actually achieves something.

[gab13by13]

2. It's based on former prosecutor opinions

Not based on sheep counters. The basis for this opinion is that the document grand jury hasn’t met since May 5th.

Sorry if this speculation is upsetting, it makes sense to me. The stolen documents crimes has always been the easiest prosecution.

[Beastly Boy]

10. If only I had a nickel for every opinion all those former prosecutors got wrong...

Did you ever wonder why they are all "former" prosecutors and why they are second-guessing real prosecutors on teevee?

I didn't do any statistical analysis of their punditry, but I'd bet every nickel I would have gotten for the opinions they got wrong that their predictive skills don't measure up to those of the sleep inducing sheep. Yawn, pardon the pun.

[bigtree]

16. the stolen documents case is only 'easy' if you abandon all the evidence available

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...and rush into court on the least of the charges.

What's developing is much more than just a case of possession of classified docs. It's leading into dissemination which involves the Espionage Act, and has led Jack Smith to probe into several foreign sources with financial connections in addition to the basic question of Trump taking what isn't his.

Anyone can move forward with a half-assed, incomplete case. That's not what this is about. That's not what an investigation is for.

It's not a zero-sum game to catch Trump up before the election. That the voter's responsibility.

It's a pursuit of the facts, wherever they lead, until their resolution. To that end, politics is the same abstraction for Smith and, ultimately Garland, as it is for anyone looking on. None of it supersedes justice, recognizing that even a conviction would not be a legal barrier to a Trump presidential candidacy.

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. Oh goody! Let's count together!

Any excuse to count is fine! Counting is fun!

Let’s just not get confused that counting actually means something, because it doesn’t, no matter what Nicolle Wallace’s TV lawyers say…


(Funny thing is, counting aside, we agree that DOJ indictments, especially for the documents case, are likely to happen sooner than later. It’s just that counting out the days based on some TV lawyer’s artificial timeline is just…so…tacky, in an arms-crossed, toe-tapping kind of way.)

[MineralMan]

4. Are you planning to go after AG Garland every day

from now on? I advise patience.

[gab13by13]

5. Time matters,

that fact is lost on many DUers.

Merrick Garland is a self-proclaimed institutionalist, I guarantee that he will make sure he doesn't interfere with the election.

[brooklynite]

9. Fortunately, the election isn't any time soon.

[bigtree]

15. where has Garland EVER said he's an 'institutionalist?'

...he's never actually 'proclaimed' himself to be an 'institutionalist,' has he?

That's just a smear anti-DOJ critics use to buttress their Garland-bashing.

You can't 'guarantee' anything off of an untruth.

[H2O Man]

6. I'd expect it

to be late June or early July. This is based upon the need for full preparations to the reactions to indictments.

[tritsofme]

7. I find threads like this pretty weird.

This isn’t reality tv.

[inthewind21]

12. Apparenlty

some think it is.

[Kingofalldems]

11. Ahhh-- more of this crap.

Not fooled.

Exactly what narrative are you talking about?

[triron]

13. Gee, what's wrong with a little countdown fun?

[bigtree]

14. ragging on Garland is still the dumbest thing

...when it's JACK SMITH in charge of the investigation.

This isn't a crap shoot. Whinging for them to conclude is just the most ignorant take there is, outside of the obviously opportunistic ragging on the AG and Smith coming from MAGA. Not one scrap of information about the actual case, just this tearing down of the people doing the job.

This is a legal process, not a horserace to whatever half-assed end people with zero clue about how investigations work have been urging investigators toward all along.

The most important thing is to get it right - to assemble an airtight set of charges that will survive a jury process. That's the measure of success here, not this nonfactual, neo-political bashing of the Biden DOJ.