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kimbutgar

(21,055 posts)
Tue May 30, 2023, 05:45 PM May 2023

I am highly suspicious of this no labels party

In my local paper the SF Chronicle they had a letter to the editor espousing how great it would
Be to have a no labels candidate. My bs detector went off immediately.

I will always vote Democratic.

Here is the letter:

Break the party system

We are living in a time when our political system is deeply fractured. Both Republicans and Democrats seem more interested in engaging in partisan warfare than in uniting to address the needs of constituents.

It’s no wonder we’re seeing widespread dissatisfaction and mistrust in our democratic institutions. And with over 40% of the electorate now considering themselves independent, there’s never been a greater urgency for a different choice.

No Labels, a nationwide movement composed of Republicans, Democrats and independents, represents such a refreshing alternative. It is building an infrastructure for an independent unity ticket to run in the 2024 presidential elections in response to historically unpopular nominees. No Labels is not positioning itself to be a spoiler; it’s offering a way to steer the political system of our nation back to stability and common sense.

Critics who call third-party presidential candidates spoilers are clinging to an outdated perspective that doesn’t reflect how broken our system has become. At the core of our democracy is the freedom to choose — limiting that only continues the partisan dysfunction.

We should embrace what No Labels is presenting. It’s a chance for a more robust democracy, offering solutions that neither Republicans or Democrats seem willing to tackle.

Xxxxxx chair, No Labels California Party

I would bet this same letter is posted in a lot of letters to the editor throughout the country now.
And I bet there is Republican money behind it big time.

Anyone seen this similar letter to the editor?

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I am highly suspicious of this no labels party (Original Post) kimbutgar May 2023 OP
I'm suspicious of anything Andrew Yang is involved in. RandySF May 2023 #1
I am suspicious of anything close to Mark Penn delisen May 2023 #8
. Effete Snob May 2023 #2
No labels inthewind21 May 2023 #3
Its purpose is to get Republicans elected. n/t Mister Ed May 2023 #4
That's the way I see it wryter2000 May 2023 #5
Sounds like the Green Party Freddie May 2023 #7
The SF Chronicle has a long history Mr.Bill May 2023 #6
My parents subscribed to the SF Chronicle and Examiner growing up kimbutgar May 2023 #10
One letter I remember in particular Mr.Bill May 2023 #15
They're funded by the likes of Harlan Crow. Their intent is to elect Trump by taking Biden votes. Nevilledog May 2023 #9
Harlan already owns the supreme court kimbutgar May 2023 #13
It exists to defeat President Biden. nt 617Blue May 2023 #11
Exactly ! kimbutgar May 2023 #12
I knew all the time Yang would head in this direction 617Blue May 2023 #14
How would they build coalitions in Congress? no_hypocrisy May 2023 #16
No Labels is a scam to re-elect TFG being funded by Harlan Crow LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #17
This needs to broadcast, put in ads and memes to educate the young voters kimbutgar May 2023 #18
Didn't even know the no labels movement was still around standingtall May 2023 #19
Isn't "No Labels" a fucking label? W_HAMILTON May 2023 #20
+1 kimbutgar May 2023 #21

delisen

(6,042 posts)
8. I am suspicious of anything close to Mark Penn
Tue May 30, 2023, 06:00 PM
May 2023

There are very clear differences between our two major parties.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
2. .
Tue May 30, 2023, 05:47 PM
May 2023
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/26/members-of-a-no-labels-allied-caucus-erupt-at-no-labels-00098913



“No Labels is wasting time, energy, and money on a bizarre effort that confuses and divides voters, and has one obvious outcome — reelecting Donald Trump as President.”

Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.)

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
3. No labels
Tue May 30, 2023, 05:49 PM
May 2023

"No Labels, a nationwide movement composed of Republicans, Democrats and independents.." I see three labels there.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
5. That's the way I see it
Tue May 30, 2023, 05:55 PM
May 2023

Going after Republicans who might vote for a Dem over a Trumpist

Besides, I’m sick of the holier than thou types who are too good to pick a side. It’s another form of both-sides-ism.

Mr.Bill

(24,238 posts)
6. The SF Chronicle has a long history
Tue May 30, 2023, 05:58 PM
May 2023

of publishing looney letters to the Editor. I was always entertained by it. Now I get that entertainment from the internet. Excepting DU, of course.

kimbutgar

(21,055 posts)
10. My parents subscribed to the SF Chronicle and Examiner growing up
Tue May 30, 2023, 06:25 PM
May 2023

And I’m always amused by some of these insane letters.

Of course like you DU is my first go to for news also!

Mr.Bill

(24,238 posts)
15. One letter I remember in particular
Tue May 30, 2023, 06:37 PM
May 2023

was a guy who made a reasonable, sane argument on the anti abortion side of things. While I didn't agree with him, his letter was at least civil and decent. Right up until he ended the letter with "...and all teenage girls with dangling ear rings should be sterilized." I mean WTF?

617Blue

(1,219 posts)
14. I knew all the time Yang would head in this direction
Tue May 30, 2023, 06:37 PM
May 2023

Never trusted that dude or understood why others here were attracted to his campaign.

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,919 posts)
17. No Labels is a scam to re-elect TFG being funded by Harlan Crow
Tue May 30, 2023, 06:47 PM
May 2023

Look who is funding this group



Remember that Nader was funded by Karl Rove in 2000 and 2004 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/ralph-nader-was-indispens_b_4235065.html

Furthermore, Karl Rove and the Republican Party knew this, and so they nurtured and crucially assisted Nader’s campaigns, both in 2000 and in 2004. On 27 October 2000, the AP’s Laura Meckler headlined “GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads.” She opened: “Hoping to boost Ralph Nader in states where he is threatening to hurt Al Gore, a Republican group is launching TV ads featuring Nader attacking the vice president [Mr. Gore]. ... ‘Al Gore is suffering from election year delusion if he thinks his record on the environment is anything to be proud of,’ Nader says [in the commercial]. An announcer interjects: ‘What’s Al Gore’s real record?’ Nader says: ‘Eight years of principles betrayed and promises broken.’” Meckler’s report continued: “A spokeswoman for the Green Party nominee said that his campaign had no control over what other organizations do with Nader’s speeches.” Bush’s people - the group sponsoring this particular ad happened to be the Republican Leadership Council - knew exactly what they were doing, even though the liberal suckers who voted so carelessly for Ralph Nader obviously did not. Anyone who drives a car the way those liberal fools voted, faces charges of criminal negligence, at the very least. But this time, the entire nation crashed as a result; not merely a single car.....

On July 9th, the San Francisco Chronicle headlined “GOP Doners Funding Nader: Bush Supporters Give Independent’s Bid a Financial Lift,” and reported that the Nader campaign “has received a recent windfall of contributions from deep-pocketed Republicans with a history of big contributions to the party,” according to “an analysis of federal records.” Perhaps these contributors were Ambassador Egan’s other friends. Mr. Egan’s wife was now listed among the Nader contributors. Another listed was “Nijad Fares, a Houston businessman, who donated $200,000 to the Bush inaugural committee and who donated $2,000 each to the Nader effort and the Bush campaign this year.” Furthermore, Ari Berman reported 7 October 2004 at the Nation, under “Swift Boat Veterans for Nader,” that some major right-wing funders of a Republican smear campaign against Senator John Kerry’s Vietnam service contributed also $13,500 to the Nader campaign, and that “the Republican Party of Michigan gathered ninety percent of Nader’s signatures in their state” (90%!) to place Nader on the ballot so Bush could win that swing state’s 17 electoral votes. Clearly, the word had gone out to Bush’s big contributors: Help Ralphie boy! In fact, on 15 September 2005, John DiStaso of the Manchester Union-Leader, reported that, “A year ago, as the Presidential general election campaign raged in battleground state New Hampshire, consumer advocate Ralph Nader found his way onto the ballot, with the help of veteran Republican strategist David Carney and the Carney-owned Norway Hill Associates consulting firm.”

It was obvious, based upon the 2000 election results, that a dollar contributed to Nader in the 2004 contest would probably be a more effective way to achieve a Bush win against Kerry in the U.S. Presidential election than were perhaps even ten dollars contributed to Bush. This was a way of peeling crucial votes off from Bush’s real opponent - votes that otherwise would have gone to the Democrat. That’s why the smartest Republican money in the 2004 Presidential election was actually going to Nader, even more so than to Bush himself: these indirect Bush contributions provided by far the biggest bang for the right-wing buck.

kimbutgar

(21,055 posts)
18. This needs to broadcast, put in ads and memes to educate the young voters
Tue May 30, 2023, 06:53 PM
May 2023

Harlan Crowe owns Clarence Thomas now he wants to buy a president by fooling you?

I have never respected Ralph Nader because of him we got Bush 2. When I hear his name I remember what he did ! And don’t get me started on RFK jr now with Nader as his campaign manager!

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
19. Didn't even know the no labels movement was still around
Tue May 30, 2023, 06:54 PM
May 2023

Was a complete fraud 15 or 20 years and can what I can tell still is now. Get a bunch of republican politicians and at best very conservative Democrats and then try and lie to people by presenting themselves as moderators and independents to get republicans elected. "The no labels movement should come with a warning label" I don't remember the name of the person who said, but I do remember he said he attended a meeting on how to get republican Cory Gardner elected.

W_HAMILTON

(7,835 posts)
20. Isn't "No Labels" a fucking label?
Tue May 30, 2023, 07:44 PM
May 2023

Last edited Wed May 31, 2023, 01:30 AM - Edit history (1)



If you claim you are no labels -- emphasis on lower case since capitalizing it means YOU ARE BASICALLY TRYING TO BE A PARTY AND THUS USING LABELS -- then just do you own thing and quit trying to gather up a bunch of supporters and making "No Labels" a thing.

Dipshits.
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