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speak easy

(12,598 posts)
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:26 PM May 2023

I rarely praise Republicans. But I have to give two thumbs up

to Kevin McCarthy's brilliant idea to establish a commission to find ways to cut Medicare and Social Security. Hats and pants off to you Sir. Say it loud and proud every day until Tuesday, November 5, 2024.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143081402

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I rarely praise Republicans. But I have to give two thumbs up (Original Post) speak easy May 2023 OP
Keep this alive! dchill May 2023 #1
Unbelievable, right? Such a weak, and STUPID, Speaker. brush May 2023 #2
they'll very clearly say that it will only impact YOUNGER voters. maxsolomon May 2023 #4
As if they don't vote either. Just dumb. brush May 2023 #5
I think it will placate retirees who currently get checks. maxsolomon May 2023 #6
Huh? Promising to look into cuts in SS and Medicare will... brush May 2023 #8
Promising the cuts will only affect OTHERS will placate them. maxsolomon May 2023 #10
I saw a poll that Genxers took a turn to the right since 2016. Claustrum May 2023 #7
As A Gen Xer Cosmocat May 2023 #16
I am right at the start of Millennials but all of my friends are GenXers. Claustrum May 2023 #17
Best way I can say it is Cosmocat Jun 2023 #22
The indoctrination through the churches thing rings a bell for me. Claustrum Jun 2023 #23
oh yeah Cosmocat Jun 2023 #25
Yep. It's the I'VE GOT MINE doctrine that fuels conservative thought. TheBlackAdder May 2023 #15
It's like the GQPs only care about their pockets with greed and power.................. Lovie777 May 2023 #3
Qev is trying to create a moral imperative to sell to voters bucolic_frolic May 2023 #9
My guess is not too many people will believe his newest lies about who it doesn't affect. Torchlight May 2023 #11
Who's got an empty billboard? usonian May 2023 #12
Brilliant! Excellent! TY Cha Jun 2023 #27
Thanks. Your appreciation made my day. (so far) usonian Jun 2023 #28
Oh I can imagine.. I can Cha Jun 2023 #29
Absofuckinlutely! Still Sensible May 2023 #13
I hope he runs on this! All of them! Big ad buys!!! yardwork May 2023 #14
Abortion issue backup. rickford66 May 2023 #18
Even Trump knows this is stupidity on the campaign trail. BadgerMom May 2023 #19
Especially with the number of Baby Boomers that depend on and earned those benefits. OMGWTF May 2023 #20
While reading about the bill today re: SS cuts... SleeplessinSoCal May 2023 #21
Per Reuters, it was the first two 2024 & 2025 of 10 years of funding.(still I'm not happy about it) NowsTheTime Jun 2023 #24
So now you want Grandma to join POC, LGBTQ, teachers , officers, drag queens, students, Democrats Cha Jun 2023 #26
LOL: The GOP Starve Grandma Plan! Pull yourself by your bootstraps Nana. FSogol Jun 2023 #30
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
2. Unbelievable, right? Such a weak, and STUPID, Speaker.
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:33 PM
May 2023

Why in the world would he think that republican voters, many older and on Medicare and Social Security, would want them cut?

The man is just not that smart.

maxsolomon

(38,718 posts)
4. they'll very clearly say that it will only impact YOUNGER voters.
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:37 PM
May 2023

no one currently receiving benefits will be impacted, only those lazy socialist Gen X, Y & Zers.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
5. As if they don't vote either. Just dumb.
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:42 PM
May 2023

Take another class in how to appease MTG and Gaetz, Kevin. Apparently you flunked the one you took.

maxsolomon

(38,718 posts)
6. I think it will placate retirees who currently get checks.
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:47 PM
May 2023

Who are also the most reliable GQP voters and the most focused on SS.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
8. Huh? Promising to look into cuts in SS and Medicare will...
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:50 PM
May 2023

placate recipients of SS and Medicare?

maxsolomon

(38,718 posts)
10. Promising the cuts will only affect OTHERS will placate them.
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:57 PM
May 2023

They count on their voters to be selfish.

Claustrum

(5,058 posts)
7. I saw a poll that Genxers took a turn to the right since 2016.
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:48 PM
May 2023

So maybe this will get some of them to turn back toward democrats.

Claustrum

(5,058 posts)
17. I am right at the start of Millennials but all of my friends are GenXers.
Wed May 31, 2023, 07:55 PM
May 2023

A lot of them ended up being the mythical Obama to TFG voters. We are all well educated, hold advanced degrees, and first generation immigrants. I hated it when I saw Fox News on TV when we gather. We usually gather at one of the person's house. But since it's his house, it's his choice of which channel to watch so I keep my mouth shut. A lot of them are religious too.

I simply don't understand their draw to TFG. I understand the populous rhetoric but it's clear TFG meant none of it. He aligned himself with the right wing nutjobs because the "normal" republicans all deserted him. It's kind of funny. I was an "independent" back in 2015 and I was ready to really give both sides a good chance. It was my first election. After seeing a few of TFG and the joke of a debate that the republicans put out, I am now a democrat for a good 10-20 years if not for the rest of my life.

Cosmocat

(15,424 posts)
22. Best way I can say it is
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 07:35 AM
Jun 2023

that we were were a superficial generation.

Kind of a counter reaction to a good portion of the prior generations that had a good number of "hippy" antiwar, save the planet and social justice in their youth. Didn't see much of that out of us.

Pretty much had stoners/shop kids, preps and the out kids.

Movies were those rosy / popish things like pretty in pink, Jon Hughes kind of stuff, we saw the gordon gecko greed is good stuff going on, Miami Vice. Music was heavy pop, clothing was just cringe worthy.

Just little substance.

This was also the time when the republican party and evangelicals were starting into their unholy alliance. We were not a religious generation at all really, just went cause our parents went, but were the first generation to get that political indoctrination through the churches.

Claustrum

(5,058 posts)
23. The indoctrination through the churches thing rings a bell for me.
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 07:45 AM
Jun 2023

I went to church when I was in my teenage years in another country. I continued going for a few years when I immigrated to the US. I stopped going after a few years because something just seemed off with churches in the US (maybe it was just the one I went to, but it seems more systematic with what's happening in recent years).

When I went to church in another country, it was not political. It's not tied to a political ideology and the main purpose was to spread love and care to people around you. It was a place to meet and have fun with other people. The church I went to was an accepting place. I remember people from all walks of live. One clearly had mental illness, but none of us cared or minded. We didn't talk about it and we treat the person the same as everyone else. One was clearly gay. But once again, no one cared or said anything.

When I went to church in the US, it was like an exclusive club kind of thing. They do welcome people from all walks of live but they are trying to mold people to follow whatever they preach. I felt excluded because I wasn't fitting the mold exactly. Something was just off and I stopped going after a few years. It took me years to realize what the problem I had with it.

Cosmocat

(15,424 posts)
25. oh yeah
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 09:26 AM
Jun 2023

What non church related religious exposure I had a youth was just like yours.

The good stuff.

But, most actual churches I have attended or been around that are mostly white are the uptight club thing you note.

On the other hand, my black friends who are church going and religious, seem the most genuinely christian people I know.

Lovie777

(22,971 posts)
3. It's like the GQPs only care about their pockets with greed and power..................
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:37 PM
May 2023

that's all they care about. Another issue that is pissing off Americans is abortion. Then they are fucking with education, books, health care, inflation, besides whatever that "woke and crt" means. They are messing with rights period, gerrymandering, and taken over blue counties and cities.

It's like Communism.

bucolic_frolic

(55,136 posts)
9. Qev is trying to create a moral imperative to sell to voters
Wed May 31, 2023, 05:57 PM
May 2023

Scare tactics. We've been down this road before.

Torchlight

(6,829 posts)
11. My guess is not too many people will believe his newest lies about who it doesn't affect.
Wed May 31, 2023, 06:21 PM
May 2023

Sure, there are a lot of suckers in the country who would rather see a neighborhood burn than allow a book with a new idea into tha neighborhood's library. But when Big Gubbmnt starts mucking around with THEIR money, the luster over conservatism fades quickly when their Sealions just can't get the traction they want.

All it takes is a crack and the dam is that much weaker. McCarthy is doing his damned best to create that crack for fun and profit.

usonian

(25,314 posts)
28. Thanks. Your appreciation made my day. (so far)
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 02:49 PM
Jun 2023

You have no idea how tough it is to look at those ugly mugs while doing the creative editing.

I have to take a shower afterwards. 💦

Cha

(319,067 posts)
29. Oh I can imagine.. I can
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 03:05 PM
Jun 2023

barely look at some of them myself.. others I can't look at them at all.. it's too Repulsive.

Kev really stepped into it with this one.. I think he might have been playing to the Putin Caucus to keep his squeaker job.

Still Sensible

(2,870 posts)
13. Absofuckinlutely!
Wed May 31, 2023, 07:12 PM
May 2023

Perfecting actions and messaging to appease the base (to win their Reich wing primaries) and pissing off everyone else!

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
21. While reading about the bill today re: SS cuts...
Wed May 31, 2023, 08:23 PM
May 2023

The solution to keeping it solvent by adding IRS agents to catch rich tax cheats. THAT WAS STRIPPED BY THE BILL.

Billions of $$$ kept through cheating. They love cheating. Its their party's MO.

NowsTheTime

(1,314 posts)
24. Per Reuters, it was the first two 2024 & 2025 of 10 years of funding.(still I'm not happy about it)
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 08:16 AM
Jun 2023
https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/whats-debt-ceiling-deal-biden-mccarthy-are-negotiating-2023-05-26/

MOVING SPECIAL IRS FUNDING

Biden and Democrats secured $80 billion for a decade in new funding to help the Internal Revenue Service enforce the tax code for wealthy Americans in last year's Inflation Reduction Act, a move the administration said would yield $200 billion in additional revenue over the next 10 years.

The IRS earmarked the money for hiring thousands of new agents, and the extra tax revenue they generated was expected to offset a slew of climate-friendly tax credits.

The new legislation and subsequent appropriations would shift $10 billion in each of calendar years 2024 and 2025 in funding away the Internal Revenue Service. But administration officials believe the IRS can make do in the near term since it was funded over a 10-year period.

Cha

(319,067 posts)
26. So now you want Grandma to join POC, LGBTQ, teachers , officers, drag queens, students, Democrats
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 02:16 PM
Jun 2023

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
30. LOL: The GOP Starve Grandma Plan! Pull yourself by your bootstraps Nana.
Thu Jun 1, 2023, 03:21 PM
Jun 2023

Kevin McCarthy thinks you are a freeloader. He wants to divert your meager social security check to some form of corporate welfare and/or tax cuts for the ultra rich!

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