Fox News Host: Why Try to Save Earth When Afterlife Is Real?

[Nevilledog]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-rachel-campos-duffy-why-save-earth-when-afterlife-is-real

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The quest to make the earth a better and more habitable place isn’t just a political fight. For one Fox News host, it’s also sacrilegious.

The hosts of Fox & Friends Sunday were discussing Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy’s pledge to be guided by faith if he wins in 2024, noting how religion is often referenced more by Republicans than Democrats. Co-host Rachel Campos-Duffy took that a step further, saying liberals only see Earth as the endgame while conservatives look beyond.

“For them, where we live right now, this place, Earth is it,” she said. “So everything’s on the line here for them. They think, as you said, they can perfect this Earth. Those of us who have faith don’t believe that, and we believe how we act here determines where we go after. And so we got to behave.”

Campos-Duffy also argued that conservatives tried to live “within those moral limits,” a lifestyle she purported liberals don’t abide by. “The ends justify the means is sort of the rules for radicals,” she said. “That’s not how Christians act.”

The virtue-signaling did not end there. The hosts discussed how religious movements were fundamental to the country and that human beings were naturally geared toward religion, offering Campos-Duffy the opportunity to equate Christianity and Islam with... climate, invoking language used by Ramaswamy and ex-Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

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[Deuxcents]

1. So that's why it's ok with them to pollute, drain the resources, cut down rainforests

And just literally trash Earth because they’re just dropping by on their way to the afterlife. Got it.

[flying rabbit]

2. Therin in lies the true danger of

religious whackadoodles.

[calimary]

50. No kidding!!!

Hey, they’re welcome to get off our planet ANY ol’ time they want. I certainly won’t stand in their way (of that kind of exit, anyway).

[TheBlackAdder]

75. Then why don't they all just kill themselves now and get the good seats next to Jesus in Heaven?

.

Let the heathens wallow on Earth.

Destroying the Earth is tantamount to killing themselves anyway, just in a slower manner. So that excuse they can't commit suicide is not relevant.

.

[Lovie777]

3. Well there you have it.....................

Why be concerned about global warming and treating people with kindness since these hateful say it don't matter.

These people don't mind destroying the world and kill everyone on it because, hallelujah, at least they have a afterlife

[EYESORE 9001]

4. And with that assertion

The fool who utters such nonsense should immediately renounce concern or involvement with just about any fucking thing that goes on in the real world henceforth.

[ArizonaLib]

51. Absolutely

By that logic, why should they waste time on earth?

If they are determined to destroy the creator's creations, they should be so eager to meet their maker right now.

I won't miss them.

[Sogo]

5. Sheesh, this is a left-over attitude from the Reagan era.

[Mariana]

14. This attitude has been around for a very long time.

It didn't start with Reagan, and it isn't going to end any time soon.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

65. You do realize that this has been an argument of the christian sect

Since their founding...right?

[RockRaven]

6. If you've every wondered why irreligious billionaires get into bed w/ religious nuts via the GQP...

THIS IS WHY.

[GoodRaisin]

62. I mean, who better?

They believe anything. There is no better place to set up and disperse lying agenda from than these conservative churches.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

66. And your evidence that they're irreligious...is?

Because they are religious at close to the same rate as the rest of the population.

Really.

[RockRaven]

70. Reading comprehension isn't for everyone...

[PatSeg]

7. Wait, who are these conservatives

who try "to live within those moral limits"? Perhaps her definition of morality is different from most people's.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

67. Now you're getting it!

[erronis]

8. Ask one of these so-called after-life believers it they are ready to meet their maker ---

in the way the mob helps people get there quicker.

None of them will choose that option. They'd rather keep living, causing misery for others, and padding their bank accounts.

They know they are lying and don't GAS.

[Takket]

9. "conservatives tried to live "within those moral limits," a lifestyle she purported liberals don't"

Siri, show me the most raging, blazing, three alarm fire, example of projection that has ever existed.

LOL

live within moral limits?????????????? Insurrections, burning books, telling people who they can love, what they can do in their bedroom........ Christian values are supposed to be about how YOU choose to live your life, and how YOU treat others (unconditionally, even if you don't believe in their personal lifestyle)

[Iggo]

11. So do the guys who kill people for drawing Mohamed.

I’m not impressed.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

69. Funny...Those values

of "how YOU choose to live your life, and how YOU treat others" are the same values of everyone from other religions, and from none at all, too.

But you can't be serious that the religion has ever believed that they must treat others "unconditionally, even if you don't believe in their personal lifestyle."

Do you need the history lesson about how many times they have had zero respect for people who believed or lived differently? They certainly didn't have that view about the pagans, the Cathars, the Crusades, the Inquisition, the approval of slavery, the centuries of torment and mass-murder against the Jews--right up to the Holocaust and through to today, genocide of the indigenous peoples of the New World, not to mention all the centuries of misogyny, racism, and homophobia.

They're the last people who can claim that they believe in treating people "unconditionally, even if you don't believe in their personal lifestyle." Oh, they might say it, but they rarely practice it.

And that's what matters: The doing, not the bleating.

[RandomNumbers]

10. Not enough facepalms in the world for that attitude

[underpants]

12. It's an old talk radio bit.

Libs are miserable lazy slovenly undisciplined drug and sex freaks.
Conservatives are happy.

Whatever.

Viv, it ain’t going to happen but get your attention while you can.

[ProfessorGAC]

57. Conservatives Are Happy?

I know you're right, but their actions & most of their words suggest they're always upset!
They are as far from happy as one could get.
It's delusional nonsense.

[mobeau69]

13. Is fox still on the air? How can that be?

[dalton99a]

15. "Peasants, your rewards are in heaven"

"Meanwhile go back to work and give us all you've got"

[Freethinker65]

16. I remember reading a theory somewhere about religion

Or belief in a higher power, afterlife, etc.

As a non-believer, I always wondered why I just did not believe while others (friends, coworkers, and family, not charlatans using religion for personal gain) did. Why so some believe, no matter what, and others don't?

It was proposed there might be some kind of genetic component, and believing might actually be advantageous as belief often leads to not giving up and optimism for the future.

[Maru Kitteh]

20. I would think it would lead to complacency and fatalism, as it's designed to do.

Religion seems to be designed to keep the masses quiet, unquestioning and compliant.

[Model35mech]

29. Anxiety must be mitigated, if even by believing great untruths

In the short term if your belief allows you to be part of a group of like believers then you have 'friends'.

Friends will help friends and that significantly off-loads much anxiety.

[Ligyron]

55. Genetic component?

Enough brain cells?

[Freethinker65]

56. Ok. I didn't re-read all of this, but this seems similar to what I read years ago

https://www.apa.org/monitor/2010/12/believe

[Botany]

17. Rachel Campos-Duffy, "Those of us who have faith don't believe that, and we believe how we act ....

... here determines where we go after. And so we got to behave.”

So hurry up and die you dumb ass Christo Fascist liar for hire. Go for your "dirt nap" so you can wake
to the sweet loving arms of your blue haired and blond eyed Jesus.


BTW go and try to fine some
King Crab legs or explain why the tiaga forests in Canada which should be wet this time of year
are burning, or the Po River in Italy, or ....

[live love laugh]

18. Why doesn't he go first?

[roamer65]

22. +1000

Hell yeah.

[Duppers]

24. My 1st thought too. nt

[CrispyQ]

19. Do the people that asked that have children? Grandchildren?

JFC.

[Martin Eden]

21. Moral behavior for Republicans:

Poisoning the planet and life on earth, including children, for profit.

Comfort the rich while neglecting the poor, the sick, and the homeless.

Scapegoat, demonize, and inflict cruelty on strangers.

Welcome racists and domestic terrorists into your tent.

Promote the Big Lie of a stolen election, undermining faith in our democracy.

Support a conspiracy and violent attempt to prevent the peaceful transfer of power.

Cultish devotion to a serial adulterer, sexual predator, grifter, liar, criminal, and likely traitor to America.

Incite fear and hatred of LGBTQ citizens, and pass legislation to take away their rights.

Pass legislation to take the right of bodily autonomy from women.

Pass legislation to suppress the voting rights of minorities.

Pass legislation to promote ignorance of American history when minorities were enslaved, repressed, and slaughtered.

Ban books from schools and libraries while enabling the proliferation of deadly firearms and slaughter of innocents including children.


This is far from a comprehensive list of their "moral" behavior, but if there is an afterlife and judgement day these flaming hypocrites are going straight to HELL.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

71. They don't deserve hell.

It's too good for them.

No, they can go to the real horror show of heaven, where you spend eternity kissing the arse of a psychopath surrounded by people that nobody else could stand here on earth.

I can't think of anything worse than that.

[keep_left]

23. The minute I saw the OP title I knew it was Campos-Duffy. She is one of the benchwarmers...

...on Fox and Friends Sunday. She and her husband, former WI Congressman Sean Duffy, are two of the most shameless wingnut welfare grifters I've ever seen. They met on MTV's The Real World years ago. They're radtrad Catholic fundamentalists, so Campos-Duffy's disdain for environmentalism is a direct affront to the words of her own Pope (cf. Laudato si' encyclical).

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17891300

By the way, Campos-Duffy is just cribbing from James Watt, who made similar remarks when he was Secretary of the Interior in the Reagan administration.

[CrispyQ]

63. Radical Catholic fundamentalists, were on The Real World?

Wow. Something must have changed between then & now.

[keep_left]

64. Well, I think that came somewhat later, but the seeds were there, because Campos-Duffy...

...grew up in a very conservative Catholic family and went to parochial schools. The radtrad-ism may be partly the influence of her husband as well. I didn't watch The Real World much (by that time, I was really losing interest in anything on MTV), but I viewed enough episodes to see that Campos-Duffy was a constant antagonist on that show. One of the personalities on TRW was the son of a Black Panther activist or something, and another was a gay man living with AIDS (and who died during the show, as I recall). Campos-Duffy was always on someone's back about every conservative outrage du jour, and of course having a gay man and a "Black militant" as roommates meant that there were always fireworks when Campos-Duffy was around.

Campos-Duffy and her husband are constantly making TV appearances, and both of them now co-host Fox shows (Campos-Duffy on Fox News, Sean Duffy on Fox Business). I have also seen Campos-Duffy on EWTN (radtrad Catholic TV).

[Sky Jewels]

25. I find the thought of eternal life terrifying.

I'm very happy there is zero evidence to support the notion that it actually happens.

[Hekate]

26. I'm so touched. That's some real deep theology there. Exegesis and all that good stuff.

Ignoramuses.

[rurallib]

27. After all the billions of humans who have died on earth

how many reports do we have from the after life to confirm their beliefs so far?

My sources say less than 1. Anybody got any more than that?

[Sky Jewels]

60. Also, at what point did our ancestors supposedly start receiving afterlives?

Was it when they were simple organisms? Therapsids? Rat-sized primates? Monkey-sized? When we attained ape status? When we became fully homo sapien, 200,000 or so years ago? And what about our close cousins, like chimps, gorillas, orangutans? Do they get afterlives too? How about all the creatures that have died over three billions years on Earth, like dinosaurs and pterodactyls and mastodons and kangaroos and deer and bears and giraffes and insects and slugs and birds and fish and horses and your pet cats and dogs? And how about creatures on other planets, which undoubtedly exist given a universe consisting of trillions of planets, many undoubtedly with ideal conditions for life to flourish? Or do only Earth critters get to live on, cuz we're special in Gawd's eyes or something? Inquiring minds want to know...

[sanatanadharma]

28. Since the goal is afterlife, why the abortion concern?

Those aborted souls go straight to Heaven, unborn and sinless, as full and complete souls from conception.
The anti-s ought to be celebrating that the unborn never have to suffer life on this planet that they seem to see as god-forsaken.

[Marcuse]

31. Because they first must vote for GOP candidates.

[Shipwack]

30. This has been a guidpost since Reagan, at least...

Damn it... I used to have a quote from on file from either a Reagan or Bush Sr cabinet member (EPA?) that said they were uninterested in protecting the environment because the rapture was coming soon so they might as well make a ton of money until then.

Does this ring a bell with anyone?

I did find a mis-attributed quote, where James Watt allegedly said,“God gave us these things to use. After the last tree is felled, Christ will come back.”, but he denies saying that. Since he has said far worse, I'll believe him in this.

[keep_left]

43. This is what I call the "Snopes problem". It's true that Watt didn't make *that* particular...

...statement; he just made a whole bunch of equally horrifying statements. (Snopes often equivocates like this).

Here are two that carry the gist of the original misquote, just tarted up a bit for polite company.

That is the delicate balance the Secretary of the Interior must have: to be steward for the natural resources for this generation as well as future generations. I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns; whatever it is we have to manage with a skill to leave the resources needed for future generations.” (Testimony before the House Interior Committee, February 5, 1981)

My responsibility is to follow the Scriptures which call upon us to occupy the land until Jesus returns. (“Watt Finds Time to Hear Audubon Society,” The Washington Post, May 24, 1981)

Also see: https://rsc.byu.edu/stewardship-creation/paleys-stone-creationism-eschatology-conservation#_note-18

We don’t have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand. (Attributed to the same May 24, 1981 Washington Post story)

And of course, Watt made plenty of other moronic gaffes over his tenure which are easily verified.

[judesedit]

32. They're forgetting there is supposedly 2 sides to that afterlife

An up and a down, a good and a bad, as has been confirmed by people who have died and come back. When they are on their deathbeds, it will hit them. May not be too excited then.

[LoisB]

34. Oops. I just said basically the same thing. I should have read all the comments first.

[judesedit]

38. Lol. You're good. We were typing at the same time

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

73. And the ultimate irony is that christians have confused which one is better

I'd rather burn than spend an eternity kissing the arse of a genocidal maniac while surrounded by people I couldn't stand to be around for five seconds here on earth.

Give me hell, anytime. It would be less painful.

[judesedit]

81. Some "Christians" are doing that now wirh Dumpy Boy.

I like the New Testament better than the Old Testament. I don't think they've read that one. I'd rather go where love lives, than hate. We can do that right here on earth. To me, hell would be full of all of the things you don't like. Hope you ultimately get what you want.

[LoisB]

33. Does she realize that those who believe, believe there are TWO places one can go in the afterlife

and if "how you act in this life" is the determinant factor, she "ain't" going where she thinks she is.

[malaise]

35. Good let them commit mass suicide

And leave the planet for sane people

[cilla4progress]

36. Asshat

magical thinkers.

[GenThePerservering]

37. well, you're not behaving very well

You christofascist - remember the whole stewardship thing? You're just arguing for convenience and your own laziness. Oh yeah, and moral bankruptcy.

[samsingh]

39. but many right wing Christians don't have morals, kill directly or indirectly, and support enemies

of America.


Many of them do not follow the 10 Commandments.
They are pro-death but claim to be pro-life (which is breaking two commandments at least - killing and not telling the truth)

[Celerity]

40. MAGAt broodmare (9 children and counting) duncy fool says wot

[Beartracks]

41. What about the "we got to behave... within moral limits" part?

Letting people suffer and letting people die so as to not inconvenience yourself or decrease your wealth is a) NOT within moral limits, and b) NOT what Jesus would do.


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[Solly Mack]

42. Then why bother ever seeking medical treatment for anything? The quicker you die and all that.

Why wear a seatbelt? Why not play in traffic?

Sick fucks.

[tiredtoo]

44. Such a shame

They are waiting for the Rapture with glee.

[patphil]

45. Republicans live within moral limits?

Since when? Their philosophy was, is, and will continue to be one of hate.
If those Republicans really believed they were "true Christians", they would want to be good stewards of the Earth as well as being loving, kind, and compassionate to all of God's children.
But then, they're spiritually blind, and can't see how badly they have failed at both.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

74. Please don't use the "true chrisitans" hatefulness

It's bigoted against not-christians. When you use terms like that, you're saying that the christians behaving in a way you don't like can't be christians because christians are good people, so the bad people have to be not christians, because only people who aren't christians are bad people.

That's a bigoted lie. christians can be (and often *are*) awful people, as often or more as not-christians, so stop blaming not-christians for those bad actors. We not-christians are sick and tired of all of you apologists for that religion libeling and slandering us for things we had bugger all to do with.

The bad behavior of christians is *all* on christians and christianity.

No one and nothing else.

Deal with it.

[patphil]

79. I made no such statement.

I think you've got it all wrong. A true Christian has to follow the teachings of their leader, Jesus, and these people aren't doing that.
You're taking a leap of illogic here, and drawing a false conclusion that was not part of my original post.
Just because I call these people out for not following the tenets of their religion doesn't have any bearing on how non-christians do, or do not, follow their own religions.
My post had nothing to do with any other religion.
Don't be so quick to judge, and kindly refrain from name calling.
Bigot is a pretty nasty word, and totally uncalled for.

[MiHale]

46. Watched the video...

Lost way too many brain cells…going to get a brew.

[GoCubsGo]

47. That is some fucked-up shit.

The assholes can't seem to comprehend that we just don't want to live in a filthy, polluted hellscape, and we sure as hell don't want to leave one to our children and future generations. What selfish motherfuckers they are.

[keithbvadu2]

48. Pastor Says Jesus Hasn't Returned Because People Haven't Donated Enough Cash

https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-pastor-says-jesus-hasnt-returned-as-people-arent-donating-enough-20210924

Pastor Says Jesus Hasn't Returned Because People Haven't Donated Enough Cash

He also joked about owning a jet which he would hand over 'the day after the rapture'

So he will still be here.

[3catwoman3]

54. What about that pesky bible verse that says...

…”The love of money is the root of all evil.” ??????

[vlyons]

49. thousands of telescopes, both amateur and professional, have scanned the sky for hundreds of years,

and never located a heaven.

I'm so tired of Christian dogma being spewed out as factual.

[dchill]

52. Religion justifies killing. Including the planet.

These people are so f**ked in the head.

[Bristlecone]

53. Delusional

[andym]

58. I've heard the being in the "last/end days" is another such religious excuse. NT.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

77. Strange how the've been in the "end days" since their deity was around

He said that those days were coming in the lifetime of his disciples.

2000 years later, and still they swear, "It's coming any day now! Really! I mean it this time!"

It's Lucy, Charlie Brown and the football, ad infinitum.

[sakabatou]

59. Apparently taking care of the garden means shit to these assholes

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

76. They were thrown out of the garden

That's only the most famous part of the book.

The rest of the earth is where they were sent after getting thrown out.

[ThoughtCriminal]

61. GOP panders to a Doomsday Cult

I think that's a pretty fair assessment.

But their devotion to worldly wealth is seen as a virtue by the same cult members.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

78. They've always loved money.

This wasn't built in the 20th century, you know:

[Hotler]

68. Prove it to us Rachel. Walk out to the middle of the street with a can of gas,

sit down and douse yourself and strike a natch. Then send us a sign of how great is.

[Raine]

72. There maybe an afterlife but theres still time on Earth before

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afterterlife arrives so why let it be miserable with no clean air, water, attacking insects, disease running rampant and extinct species. I don't think God would be pleased about his creation being treated so disrespectfully.

[ZonkerHarris]

80. My response: Why is suicide a sin?

[Kid Berwyn]

82. Talk about separation of church and states of consciousness.

Jesus said to use your brain, not ignore it.