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Lunabell

(6,080 posts)
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 03:38 PM Jun 2023

I Was Censored for Talking About Right-Wing Cancel Culture.

For the first time in my life, I was canceled during a corporate keynote speech for talking about right-wing cancel culture.

Earlier in the week, a tech company’s Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) team invited me to address their employees to celebrate Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage Month, which ended in May. I lasted all of five and a half minutes before the Zoom meeting abruptly ended without a warning or any follow-up messages, texts, or calls from company personnel.

I assumed it was a technical glitch. I spent 15 minutes trying to log back on but to no avail. After an hour and two emails, a member from the DEI committee finally replied and told me they ended the Zoom due to “internal issues.” That was the first and last communication I received. They initially didn’t even inform their employees, several of whom messaged me on Twitter over the next two days asking if I was censored for my comments.


https://www.thedailybeast.com/i-was-canceled-for-talking-about-right-wing-cancel-culture

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I Was Censored for Talking About Right-Wing Cancel Culture. (Original Post) Lunabell Jun 2023 OP
From now on, have a backup plan. Tetrachloride Jun 2023 #1
I don't think it's the OP who had this issue. BlackSkimmer Jun 2023 #17
Yes, but it may happen to any of us. Zoom is vulnerable to Tetrachloride Jun 2023 #19
Censorship is a government function relayerbob Jun 2023 #2
PRIVATE ORGANASIATIONS NEED TO BE TREATED AS NGOS THEN reymega life Jun 2023 #3
NGOs are private organisations grantcart Jun 2023 #6
That's not true. hippywife Jun 2023 #5
Did you read the article? Lunabell Jun 2023 #8
There is no First Amendment protection from censorship by private entities, Ocelot II Jun 2023 #12
Trying to figure out exactly how a corporate keynote speech is the right place for pontificating Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2023 #4
Did you even read the whole article? Lunabell Jun 2023 #7
Naw, I didn't really care enough tbh because corporate keynote speeches aren't 1A protected Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2023 #9
Nobody said anything about "1A". Lunabell Jun 2023 #10
Your use of pontificating was pejorative Doc Sportello Jun 2023 #16
Yes, but pontificating is context-sensitive don't you think? Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2023 #22
I read the article and there was no pontification Doc Sportello Jun 2023 #23
Well stated, and thank you. nt BlackSkimmer Jun 2023 #18
The truth kicks butt republianmushroom Jun 2023 #11
It's pretty ironic. Lunabell Jun 2023 #13
How does one read the article without setting up an account? JHB Jun 2023 #14
I could read it without setting up an account. SharonClark Jun 2023 #15
That wasn't my experience. JHB Jun 2023 #20
The link should've been a giveaway. Lunabell Jun 2023 #21

Tetrachloride

(7,837 posts)
1. From now on, have a backup plan.
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 03:42 PM
Jun 2023

Google Meet or a separate Zoom where “you” are the host, not the corporation.

Telegram or WhatsApp or Youtube?

The corporations will keep doing it.

Tetrachloride

(7,837 posts)
19. Yes, but it may happen to any of us. Zoom is vulnerable to
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 07:27 PM
Jun 2023

disruption. If the Zoom host disconnects or is malicious, the entire meeting can be lost instantly.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
2. Censorship is a government function
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 03:44 PM
Jun 2023

Every private organization has the right to pull the plug on anyone they want, snd it happens all the time. Unfortunate in this case, but I’m truly sick of people claiming “censorship”. Since there is little real context here, including who the audience was, and what exactly the speaker was doing, including whether the author is actually telling the truth, I’d take all with a large bucket of salt.

 

reymega life

(675 posts)
3. PRIVATE ORGANASIATIONS NEED TO BE TREATED AS NGOS THEN
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 03:46 PM
Jun 2023

since they are trying to meddle in our civilization.

hippywife

(22,767 posts)
5. That's not true.
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 04:19 PM
Jun 2023
https://www.aclu.org/other/what-censorship

What is a simple definition of censorship?

Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are "offensive," happens whenever some people succeed in imposing their personal political or moral values on others. Censorship can be carried out by the government as well as private pressure groups.


Censorship is one of those words that requires a qualifier, i.e. government censorship

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
12. There is no First Amendment protection from censorship by private entities,
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 04:59 PM
Jun 2023

but that doesn't mean it isn't censorship, which is simply the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered offensive in some fashion. The government can't legally censor most speech, while a private company can do so without legal jeopardy. But it's still censorship and can be called out as such, and private individuals are also entitled to respond as they desire.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. Trying to figure out exactly how a corporate keynote speech is the right place for pontificating
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 04:17 PM
Jun 2023

on the subject of 'cancel-culture'?

Even when the context is to "celebrate Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage Month".

This is really not censorship, at least, not that which is of the kind protected by the 1A

Also, it's helpful to readers to employ the excerpt tag when quoting articles so it's clear that this is text from a different source than the writer of the OP

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
9. Naw, I didn't really care enough tbh because corporate keynote speeches aren't 1A protected
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 04:53 PM
Jun 2023

Also forget I said 'pontificating' and pretend I said 'talking about', as is in the headline.

Now what's the argument?

Lunabell

(6,080 posts)
10. Nobody said anything about "1A".
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 04:56 PM
Jun 2023

It wasn't even mentioned. No argument. I just think before someone criticizes an article, they should at least read it. But, that's just an opinion.

Doc Sportello

(7,515 posts)
16. Your use of pontificating was pejorative
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 05:53 PM
Jun 2023

Here's the definition:
"To express one's opinions in a way considered annoyingly pompous and dogmatic."

Your characterization of it in this way was a dig and an incorrect one at that. Your dismissive reply didn't help your case either.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
22. Yes, but pontificating is context-sensitive don't you think?
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 09:28 PM
Jun 2023

Either the person was pontificating in the situation, or the headline was inaccurate click-bait.

Which is a phenomenon I oft-lament.

Not blaming the OP to be clear.

Doc Sportello

(7,515 posts)
23. I read the article and there was no pontification
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 10:03 PM
Jun 2023

The poster asked if you read the article. It seems from your responses you didn't. I also don't think the headline could be called clickbait. He believed he was shut down because of his words and the responses he got from employees certainly make that claim believable. Yes, there is too much inaccurate headlines on here but I don't think that was one.

Lunabell

(6,080 posts)
13. It's pretty ironic.
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 05:02 PM
Jun 2023

The diversity, equity and inclusion team did not want to hear about the causation or remedies to fix the problem. "Nothing to see here. Move it along. We've identified a problem, but don't plan to fix it."

JHB

(37,158 posts)
14. How does one read the article without setting up an account?
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 05:13 PM
Jun 2023

There doesn't seem to be a "free for X number of articles" or "with ads" or other option to let one read it without setting up an account at Daily Beast. And I don't want to do that.

So where is the article accessible if we need to read the whole thing to get the proper context?

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
15. I could read it without setting up an account.
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 05:53 PM
Jun 2023

PLUS, Lunabell should have indicated that the entire post was a quote and not LB’s opinion.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
20. That wasn't my experience.
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 08:02 PM
Jun 2023

I couldn't read the full article without setting up an account. And so I didn't. Considering some of your responses in this thread, perhaps you might consider relying less on the original article and expanding your own viewpoint and doing more time "going with the flow...

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