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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHad a weird interaction with a mad "former Democrat" on twitter
She claims that she was a life-long Dem but is furious with Obama and Biden for helping Trump steal the 2016 election from Hillary. She's convinced that Obama/Biden were complicit in helping Trump steal the 2016 election and forced Hillary to conceded. Then they kept her from running in 2020. Also they didn't do anything about the intel that said Russia was helping Trump. she didn't have any clear reason why they would do this except they are weak, or something. She seems to think Obama could have prevented Trump from wining the election or something. She was pretty furious about it still. No arguing with her.
I just never heard of this theory and then someone being so mad about it and was wondering if any of you have encountered people who beoieve this.
jcgoldie
(11,627 posts)You are mad because Trump won so you quit being a Democrat... makes perfect sense.
live love laugh
(13,095 posts)leftieNanner
(15,076 posts)That Obama wanted to announce the Russian interference in the election, but McConnell threatened him?
LymphocyteLover
(5,640 posts)live love laugh
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Twitter will be a cesspool for the 2024 election.
Cheezoholic
(2,014 posts)The 2024 run up is going to be like watching a 60's LSD themed psychedelic B movie while you're on the Brown Acid.
LymphocyteLover
(5,640 posts)karynnj
(59,501 posts)Republicans often skirt. One example is the Hatch Act that requires anyone, other than President and VP, from engaging in anything political. ( Note that HRC in 2012 and John Kerry in 2016 both avoided violating this. Yet in 2004, Condi Rice had a few events and in 2020, Mike Pompeo did.
In addition, the Obama administration DID put out that all the intelligence agencies were concerned for what they saw as Russian interference. This was referenced by HRC in one debate. However, they did not publicly put out stories that there was collusion between Russia and Trump. Not till AFTER the election did several bombshell stories come out.
Silent Type
(2,886 posts)Do think one has to be careful with allegations after Party conventions. trump deserved it. But Clinton did not.
PortTack
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betsuni
(25,447 posts)American working class; that Obama was the one to take out the public option from the ACA (conspiracy theory of "beholden" to Big Insurance and Big Pharma, NEOLIBERAL THIRD WAY) when it passed the House and was only removed because Joe Lieberman and a few other senators wouldn't vote for it otherwise; that Obama was an imperialist warmonger because drones drones drones drones drones drones (any concern about drone warfare completely disappeared the instant Trump won). All bullshit.
Hillary had zero intention of ever running for office again after 2016, the idea anyone "kept her from running in 2020" is idiotic. Otherwise she wouldn't have written "What Happened" and wouldn't have finally not given a fuck and said what she thought.
A real Democrat knows these things. Who the hell wouldn't trust Obama, Hillary, Biden, Pelosi, etc.? Idiots!
LymphocyteLover
(5,640 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)There are still people, even here on DU, that blame Kennedy and liberals and leftists for Carter losing in 1980.
LymphocyteLover
(5,640 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Remember how Trump intentionally stood over Hillary in the debates? How can any real Hillary supporter not hate Trump and the Republicans more than anything else?
Unless you are really a Trump supporter in disguise?
LymphocyteLover
(5,640 posts)Blaming him on Obama is demented.
Caliman73
(11,726 posts)Hillary Clinton certainly lost the election based on dirty tricks and foreign influence. That and 40 years of bullshit hatred and misogyny that started before Bill Clinton was even elected in 1992. Hillary Clinton had it right all those years ago about the "vast right wing conspiracy".
President Obama and Biden had nothing to do with Hillary's loss in 2016 and She didn't want to run again in 2020. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to after what she had to put up with.
It is sad that people presumably on our side fall victim to wacko ideas as well. Curious as to how or if she actually voted in 2020 and 2022.