How Many Life Sentences Do We Need For Trump?

[gab13by13]

The guy is 77 years old. Convicting Trump of the classified documents crimes is 30 - 40 years in prison.

Why bother with the harder to prove J6 crimes? Convict Eastman, Clark, fake electors, Meadows, Rudy etc. for those.

Just a thought.

[tinrobot]

1. He'll probably have three felony indictments by fall.

New York, Georgia, and Federal documents.

Any one of those could send him away for long enough.

But I think we should write him up for J6 as well. Simply because we need a deterrent for the next wanna-be dictator.

[Tetrachloride]

2. The trials are necessary for everyone. Evidence and testimony.

[gab13by13]

4. Good point

[Scrivener7]

13. I do agree with this. This shit needs to be in the public record.

But, a conviction on one of the easier-to-prove charges would be lovely.

(I originally wrote "a quick conviction" but that train left the station a long time ago.)

[rampartc]

3. trump may be rich enough to last several more decades,

the cult will be happy to donate their organs to dear leader so that should be no problem.

if trump is reported to die in prison i would suspect an elaborate escapo much like ken lay or epstein.

[JT45242]

5. Must be both state and federal or there could be a pardon

Every rethuglican running for president will pardon him on federal charges, even if it is an espionage conviction.

Need state prison time to prevent one pardon getting him out of jail.

[ancianita]

7. If you worry about a rethug prez, you also need to be worry about a rethug governor.

States are no better to take a chance on than the federal level.

Except for one thing: 7 million more Americans will turn out to vote for president again. And again.

[EYESORE 9001]

6. I have thoughts too

Many of them unexpressed. My thought on this matter is that the judicial system can walk and chew gum at the same time. I’m far from a legal expert, so I’m kinda reliant on those who, yunno, actually work on those cases. Unless they’re found to be bad actors - proven, mind you, not mere speculation - then I say leave them to their jobs and stop worrying about every fucking thing over which I have zero control.

[marble falls]

8. One works for me if he actually serves twenty years of it.

[CentralMass]

10. Do you really think that he is actually going to spend anytime in jail ?

[Mr. Ected]

11. I have an uneasy feeling that Trump will not serve one day in prison

But rather, the sentence will be suspended with the provision that he cannot serve in any public office henceforth.

Honestly, I don't know how sentencing would be deflected in this way, but it seems likely, given the pushback that will ensue regardless. The fact that we have a Russian actor in the crosshairs, something I think the DOJ is well aware of but which probably will have to be kept under wraps on an official basis, further complicates the equation.

For me, we have one Constitution and one set of laws which should be applied equally to all citizens, regardless of whether they won a national popularity contest or not. As far as I know, there is no amendment that would topple that thinking.

[Fiendish Thingy]

12. Max sentence for espionage act is 20 years IIRC

And multiple convictions would be served concurrently, not consecutively.

My guess, if DOJ succeeds in getting DC as a venue, Trump would be sentenced for 5-10 years, unless he is convicted of sharing/selling docs to a foreign country.

5-10 years is pretty close to a life sentence for Trump, who would probably be 78-80 by the time he reports to prison.

And, of course there are other charges, especially the GA and NY charges, that he would likely serve before/after the federal charges.

[lees1975]

14. I'm still wondering if the DOJ has the fortitude to follow through

if the grand juries do indict.

This is not a good look for the Biden administration, nor for a country that claims to abide by the rule of law. If some people aren't accountable to the law, why bother?