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Zorro

(15,737 posts)
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:24 PM Jun 2023

Electric vehicles appeal to conservative buyers sick of gas guzzlers

A few red counties in Texas are experiencing higher-than-average EV growth, as drivers tire of gas prices and chase the latest tech

Tony Federico bought his Tesla Model 3 in 2018. A former Marine who votes Republican, Federico said he was drawn by the cool technology and the chance to save money on gas.

“I think selfishly it was, you know, how is this going to help my pocketbook,” he said from his living room one recent morning. Environmental concerns were “not really” on his radar, said the head of the local Tesla owners club.

Electric vehicles are often associated with liberal coastal types who speak of saving the planet. But in this Republican stronghold north of Dallas, more and more people are deciding that driving an EV is just common sense.

In Collin County, home to Plano, EV market share is well above the national average and growing fast, reaching 8.7 percent of new-vehicle registrations last year, according to S&P Global Mobility. In neighboring Denton County, also reliably red, EVs grew to 7.3 percent of the market. Nationwide, electric cars were about 6.2 percent of new-vehicle registrations last year.

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Electric vehicles appeal to conservative buyers sick of gas guzzlers (Original Post) Zorro Jun 2023 OP
This ought to crater the ERCOT grid. roamer65 Jun 2023 #1
Nonsense. Liberal In Texas Jun 2023 #7
Good luck. roamer65 Jun 2023 #10
"I think selfishly" gratuitous Jun 2023 #2
Crank the subsidies. Igel Jun 2023 #12
I was in Phoenix recently and I could not believe how many yellowdogintexas Jun 2023 #3
Rrrrr Beachnutt Jun 2023 #4
Greg Abbott is such a worthless fucking asshole. Initech Jun 2023 #6
I Saw This NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #11
Didn't follow the details. Igel Jun 2023 #13
I'm very interested in the Kia EV6 as my next car. Initech Jun 2023 #5
I'm in Collin County and I always see quite a few when I'm out and about. tanyev Jun 2023 #8
Just because a Texas county is red doesn't mean that all the people in the county are Liberal In Texas Jun 2023 #9

Liberal In Texas

(13,546 posts)
7. Nonsense.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:59 PM
Jun 2023

EVs put about as much stress on the grid as a hair dryer does.

When I started charging my car at home after I bought it, we noticed no increase in the electric bill.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. "I think selfishly"
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:34 PM
Jun 2023

Okay, we got one of them to admit it. Maybe if we can tailor our message and proposals to appeal to their selfish nature, and shave off some of their voters who so stubbornly cling to their positions against their own interests.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
12. Crank the subsidies.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 06:24 PM
Jun 2023

That'll do it.

Increase the shame. That'll help.

But what's cool in 2018 might not be cool in 2023.

So crank the subsidies.

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
3. I was in Phoenix recently and I could not believe how many
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:52 PM
Jun 2023

Teslas I saw. They seem to be very popular out there.

There are probably comparable numbers of EVs in other brands, but other than Prius, they are not as easy to identify as Tesla.

Beachnutt

(7,311 posts)
4. Rrrrr
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:54 PM
Jun 2023

Under a new law, signed last week by Gov. Greg Abbott, Texans who own or purchase electric vehicles will pay up to $400 to register their “clean vehicles” and $200 every time they renew their registrations. The measure is expected to bring in about $38 million in new revenue.
May 22, 2023
https://dentonrc.com/news/state/electric-vehicles-in-texas-face-new-tax-as-gov-abbott-signs-law/article_61c73ec1-7e4e-5bce-a797-4017f5dee366.html

Initech

(100,063 posts)
6. Greg Abbott is such a worthless fucking asshole.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:56 PM
Jun 2023

But he'll probably get reelected because, religion or something.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
11. I Saw This
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 01:24 PM
Jun 2023

I read this the other day. Another article from Consumer Reports Advocacy said that looking at average miles driven by the average car in the state they paid around $71 in gas taxes. Thus $400 + $200 is more a PENALTY to penalize eco-friendly people.

Auto-Fascism? YES!

https://advocacy.consumerreports.org/press_release/consumer-reports-texas-proposed-electric-vehicle-fees-add-up-to-a-punishing-tax/

Igel

(35,300 posts)
13. Didn't follow the details.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 06:31 PM
Jun 2023

But it makes better sense now.

$400/reg seemed wrong, but that's what the media as reported in DU said. Haven't otherwise followed this, since, ya know, even with the federal subsidies I seriously can't afford an EV or installing an EV charger, esp. in a house I'm gradually saying goodbye to because it's way too big and I need to move ... But since my non-resilient son has only ever known this house as home and a fairly recent divorce left him a bit traumatized, I'm reluctant to chuck it and most of his "I don't want to throw it away" crap.

$400/first-time-under-new-law reg, given that most EVs have been around for awhile, seems okay. 2+ reg being lower is reasonable.

That the first-time higher reg is on-going and won't stop next year is a problem, but compromise and nuance aren't BFFs and the TX legislature meets every two years (and with elections nearly as frequent, you can see the time-horizon problem, I'm sure).

Initech

(100,063 posts)
5. I'm very interested in the Kia EV6 as my next car.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 12:55 PM
Jun 2023

Hopefully by the time I'm ready to buy again, there will be a lot more EVs to choose from. But I'm definitely ready to ditch gas!

tanyev

(42,550 posts)
8. I'm in Collin County and I always see quite a few when I'm out and about.
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 01:00 PM
Jun 2023

I figured some of them had to be driven by Republicans because A) the demographics of this county and B) many of them speed and weave in and out of traffic like entitled jerks.

Liberal In Texas

(13,546 posts)
9. Just because a Texas county is red doesn't mean that all the people in the county are
Mon Jun 5, 2023, 01:03 PM
Jun 2023

repubs, or that even 80% are. It's probably more like 50/50. The repubs keep getting elected because of voter suppression and voter apathy.

And propaganda.

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