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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumshow much hate do you have in your body
when a transgendered person drinking a beer sets you off?
What kind of a world do these people live in?
CrispyQ
(40,969 posts)who have a deep need to feel superior to others.& believe that gives them the right to control everyone else. My way or the highway. There is no live & let live.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)I think these hateful people feel, rightfully so, quite inferior. Hence the constant need to squawk. It's been my experience that the most vocal assholes are the ones who are the least happy with themselves.
grumpyduck
(6,672 posts)One variety is the people who keep it inside. You talk to them and they seem perfectly fine, but then you get inside their heads and you realize they have a disdain for some people and ideas.
The second variety is the "Karens" (male and female) we see out there, who hate everything that doesn't jive with their ideas and need to let the world know. These are ones who throw a tantrum at the drop of a hat.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Just look around our own segment.
"Watch for mean people." (How to tell if "it" could be happening.)
Society's become infected with meanness, and now spreading extremism -- and the dishonesty required to support them.
Responsible people whose job has always been to control potentially dangerous littler segments have not only been divided, but striking out at each other.
Actually, calling for more "live and let live" is a really good idea. Less intolerance and hostile acting out in society in general (social media!) will strengthen and help us focus on real threats.
Comfortably_Numb
(4,188 posts)take their orders from. Their insecurity consumes them all the way to their limp dicks.
newdayneeded
(2,493 posts)I'll add, they never did and never will get over a black man becoming president. Their shit filled brains started to boil over at Obama's inauguration.
Comfortably_Numb
(4,188 posts)and it consumes them. So theres that. I love their misery and revel in their desperation. I fear their hatred though. They will kill.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)He's just as ignorant and lacking as they are. And if HE can be president AND rich, it must mean that all those smarty fancy pants have been up to pure evil and THAT is what's wrong with their own lives. THAT is Trumps draw. I believe the MAGATS are so tethered to Trump because he's one they can relate to on their own level. Ignorance and stupidity understands ignorance and stupidity. He doesn't make them feel inferior. Like Clinton, Obama or Biden do. Too many these days are either incapable of or too lazy to think for themselves and improve their dismal situations so they seek those just like them. Water seeks it's own level.
IronLionZion
(51,267 posts)Some people simply existing is too much for some idiots to handle.
Same with banning books in school libraries. Many of these idiots didn't read the books or even have children enrolled in school. They just don't want others to have the books available to read.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)newdayneeded
(2,493 posts)I was shown at work today a tic toc or video of lip reading of the transgendered girl doing the bud light commercial. it the most disgusting thing ever, making her say phrases like "I have aids up my ass today" and a million others. the Neanderthal fellow worker was belly laughing as though it was the funniest thing ever. I just blank stared at him, he left my cube and I just shook my head. These trump guys are just fucking pigs!
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)LisaM
(29,634 posts)I know a few right wing people and I know that they aren't, at bottom, hateful people. They have been taught this, or been brainwashed, or whatever you want to call it, or frightened by some bogeyman that doesn't exist. How they became vulnerable to this propaganda is a different issue, but propaganda and scare tactics have worked for a very long time.
One of my least favorite quotes ever is "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me".
No! Shame on those who keep trying to fool and trick people who are gullible and vulnerable. These aggressors are the real problem. I don't know how to stamp them - and their tactics - out.
CaptainTruth
(8,200 posts)They allow themselves to be used as tools & manipulated by the rich & powerful radical right propaganda machine.
I wish I understood why they allow themselves to be used like they do, it seems like they gain nothing from it. I'm convinced they're not smart enough, & not well-informed enough, to realize how they're being used.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)On the one hand they deny that they're being oppressive at all and want to live in peace and harmony with everyone. On the other hand, they're highly resentful that "those people" are shoving an agenda down their throats, apparently by merely existing. If they would just stop doing that, everything would be fine. But no, gays and lesbians, transgender persons, drag queens, liberals, and other people who refuse to conform to their narrow little boxes of reality stubbornly insist that they belong in society, too, and that's just intolerable for these peaceful, harmonious bigots.
newdayneeded
(2,493 posts)They believe if Jesus came down he'd immediately rush to their side. right wing to me is the least Jesus like of all earth cultures.
mgardener
(2,360 posts)We have enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to have us love one another..
Jonathan Swift.
thatcrowwoman
(1,230 posts)Answer #2. A miserable sad sorry excuse for a world: no love, no joy, no kindness, no generosity, no hope, no satisfaction, no pleasure, no way out.
Heres some advice for them from the late great John Prines Spanish Pipedream:
Blow up your TV, not our whole blessed world!
And just because they find Jesus, their flag decals wont get them into heaven anymore
Singing along with feeling.
🕊thatcrowwoman
calimary
(90,020 posts)There they go again.
Johnny2X2X
(24,207 posts)They're obssessed with what otherpeople they don't even know are doing. It consumes them.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Buddhism is about examining and controlling one's mind, and that in includes emotions. What Judeo-Christian calls "soul," Buddhism calls "mind."
This is really really hard to get. We have a mind, but it is empty. Mind is devoid of intrinsic self-existence. We think our thoughts and feelings have a real substance, but they only SEEM real. Unless we are highly enlightened, most of us operate from duality. There's I/me/mine/myself and then there's everything else is "other." Even our language of sebject-verb-object promotes duality.
In the case of the MAGATs, they think that those "others," out there, are the cause of their anger and hatred. But no, they habitually cultivate, project, and label "others" as objects to be hated, because they experience the others as unpleasant. All the labels they project are creations of their very own minds. How we see the world is merely a reflection of our very own mind. We do not exist with other people's labels for us. We don't exist with our own labels for ourselves either, but that's another topic.
For long time bigoted haters, it takes someone or something extraordinary to break through their delusions about "others." Sadly their anger and hatred is habitual and unmindful. Most likely they did not grow up in a loving home. As children, were not taught self control. Few if any models of loving kindness. How many are poorly educated with little or no grasp of history, science, philosophy, literature? They are not happy people. Anyway, that's my understanding.
SomedayKindaLove
(1,181 posts)1) Physically, emotionally or sexually abused
2) Taught hatred by someone who was abused
3) Taught to fear anything different than themselves
4) All of the above
TygrBright
(21,362 posts)Not necessarily fear of the hate object (or type of person) themselves. A lot of times the track of hate within is twisty as hell, and leads down to a fundamental sense of something like "fear that I'll never live up to my parents' expectations of how successful I should be" or "fear that people won't think I'm good enough" or "fear that if my status is reduced I will be exposed as a miserable loser".
ALWAYS.
It's ALWAYS fear-based.
And for the past several decades, the quickest path to political and media success has been "Make people afraid", so it's hardly surprising that we have so much hate, based in fear, in our current cultural milieu.
wearily,
Bright
Initech
(108,783 posts)Skittles
(171,710 posts)yup