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Whoa! Secret Service agents testified: (Original Post) Kingofalldems Jun 2023 OP
Off the radar. Underground. Mums the word. Tetrachloride Jun 2023 #1
Jack Smith is a gangasta....that dude has been chiseling away at Mango Mussolini the whole time. Comfortably_Numb Jun 2023 #2
Comer and Gym Jordan knew................... Lovie777 Jun 2023 #3
And Jordan knows that his name may have come up leftieNanner Jun 2023 #4
Obstruct, discredit, call foul, "politization." Rat b@$t@rd$. nt Ilsa Jun 2023 #9
I'd love to see Smith go after them for attempted obstruction of justice. wnylib Jun 2023 #17
tfg's Secret Service detail was subpoenaed back in April. ancianita Jun 2023 #5
From the NYT - BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #6
That's one to keep an eye on. Kingofalldems Jun 2023 #10
I'm curious if it has to do with the "incident" in the presidential limo after the J6 rally... BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #14
I don't understand why Smith would use a wnylib Jun 2023 #18
The SS testified in the D.C. grand jury BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #24
I see. Thanks. wnylib Jun 2023 #26
Boxes moved -- or flooded with chlorinated pool water Hekate Jun 2023 #31
I think in that case in FL BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #33
GMTA. It was the first thing that popped into my mind too. Hekate Jun 2023 #34
There are individuals at Merde Lardo who moved the boxes. AZ8theist Jun 2023 #36
I thought about that "incident" as well. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #19
I think it was Cassidy Hutchinson BumRushDaShow Jun 2023 #25
You are right, BRDS. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #30
Jack Smith will be asking the agents gab13by13 Jun 2023 #7
That makes sense. To me, anyway. wnylib Jun 2023 #20
Mark Meadows Testified to Grand Jury in Special Counsel Investigation of Trump LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #8
TY for the non-paywall link. I always appreciate that. Hekate Jun 2023 #32
I'd been hoping to hear this RussBLib Jun 2023 #11
Nice Beetwasher. Jun 2023 #12
Secret Service, swimming pool, movie stars. Tetrachloride Jun 2023 #13
Black gold. Texas tea... dchill Jun 2023 #21
I think we knew this Fiendish Thingy Jun 2023 #15
Jack Smith needs to ask each agent separately, and compare their answers FakeNoose Jun 2023 #22
Baaaahahahaaaaaaaaaa. 👍 Suffer, you monster! electric_blue68 Jun 2023 #29
They should be moniss Jun 2023 #16
Buckle up! Joinfortmill Jun 2023 #23
I hope the Mango Mussolini loses a lot of sleep over this one RainCaster Jun 2023 #27
Now will we find out who's in Trump's Praetorian Guard vs who's loyal to the US? Hekate Jun 2023 #28
If the NSA or CIA has the deleted emails & texts from his SS agents, they and TFG are screwed! machoneman Jun 2023 #35

ancianita

(36,009 posts)
5. tfg's Secret Service detail was subpoenaed back in April.
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 06:05 PM
Jun 2023

When they testified isn't known. We only know when it's reported.

BumRushDaShow

(128,699 posts)
6. From the NYT -
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 06:20 PM
Jun 2023
Grand Jury in Florida Hints at Unknown Complexities in Trump Documents Inquiry


By Alan Feuer, Maggie Haberman and Ben Protess
June 6, 2023 Updated 4:39 p.m. ET


The latest twist in the inquiry into former President Donald J. Trump’s handling of classified documents is the surprise revelation that a previously unknown federal grand jury in Florida has recently started hearing testimony in the case.

The grand jury in Florida is separate from the one that has been sitting for months in Washington and has been the center of activity for prosecutors as they investigate whether Mr. Trump mishandled classified documents after leaving office or obstructed efforts to retrieve them. Among those who have appeared before the Washington grand jury in the past few months or have been subpoenaed by it, people familiar with the investigation said, are more than 20 members of Mr. Trump’s Secret Service security detail.

But there are indications that the Washington grand jury — located in the city’s federal courthouse — may have stopped hearing witness testimony in recent weeks, according to three people familiar with its workings. As for the Florida grand jury, which began hearing evidence last month, only a handful of witnesses have testified to it or are scheduled to appear before it, according to the people familiar with its workings. At least one witness has already testified there, and another is set to testify on Wednesday.

It is an open question why prosecutors impaneled the Florida grand jury — which is sitting in Federal District Court in Miami — and whether it is now the only one hearing testimony. This uncertainty, which is largely due to the secret nature of grand juries, serves to underscore how much about the management of the documents case by the special counsel Jack Smith remains out of public view.

(snip)

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/us/politics/trump-florida-grand-jury.html

wnylib

(21,417 posts)
18. I don't understand why Smith would use a
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 07:08 PM
Jun 2023

Florida grand jury for that since it occurred in DC.

I can guess that it might need a different grand jury since it is separate from the documents case. But why Florida?

BumRushDaShow

(128,699 posts)
24. The SS testified in the D.C. grand jury
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 07:50 PM
Jun 2023

but the fact that they testified in a grand jury at all, was thrown in the article more as a filler FYI.

From the NYT excerpt -

Among those who have appeared before the Washington grand jury in the past few months or have been subpoenaed by it, people familiar with the investigation said, are more than 20 members of Mr. Trump’s Secret Service security detail.


He does have a SS detail at MAL (and where ever he goes) so it's possible that some of that staff could have testified or could testify if needed in the FL grand jury with respect to whether they saw boxes moved.

BumRushDaShow

(128,699 posts)
33. I think in that case in FL
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 08:18 PM
Jun 2023

"surveillance tapes" flooded with chlorinated pool water, a la Rosemary Woods "foot" disappearing some recordings.

AZ8theist

(5,445 posts)
36. There are individuals at Merde Lardo who moved the boxes.
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:02 AM
Jun 2023

WITHOUT a security clearance to handle said material.
If so, they are also in deep shit, hence the FL GJ.

BumRushDaShow

(128,699 posts)
25. I think it was Cassidy Hutchinson
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 07:53 PM
Jun 2023

who gave quite a detailed description of what happened as it was told to her, which was 2nd hand info. Talking to the SS who were in or around the limo, would obviously get the narrative first hand (under penalty of perjury).

sheshe2

(83,708 posts)
30. You are right, BRDS.
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 08:07 PM
Jun 2023

It was Cassidy.

I would love more details from the SS driver that trump lunged at from the back seat when he tried to grab the steering wheel.

gab13by13

(21,280 posts)
7. Jack Smith will be asking the agents
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 06:24 PM
Jun 2023

if Trump showed classified documents to people. The agents are supposed to be with Trump 24/7.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,046 posts)
8. Mark Meadows Testified to Grand Jury in Special Counsel Investigation of Trump
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 06:25 PM
Jun 2023

This is going to be interesting


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Mark Meadows, the final White House chief of staff under President Donald J. Trump and a potentially key figure in inquiries related to Mr. Trump, has testified before a federal grand jury hearing evidence in the investigations being led by the special counsel’s office, according to two people briefed on the matter.....

Mr. Meadows was around for pivotal moments leading up to and after the 2020 election, as Mr. Trump plotted to try to stay in office and thwart Joseph R. Biden Jr. from being sworn in to succeed him. Some of them were described in hundreds of text messages that Mr. Meadows turned over to the House select committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack at the Capitol before he decided to stop cooperating. Those texts served as a road map for House investigators.

But Mr. Meadows also has insight into efforts by the National Archives to retrieve roughly two dozen boxes of presidential material that officials had been told Mr. Trump took with him when he left the White House in January 2021. Mr. Meadows was one of Mr. Trump’s representatives to the archives, and he had some role in trying to discuss the matter with Mr. Trump, according to two people briefed on the matter.

Mr. Meadows is also now connected tangentially to a potentially vital piece of evidence that investigators uncovered in recent months: an audio recording of an interview that Mr. Trump gave to two people assisting Mr. Meadows in writing a memoir of his White House years.

Mr. Meadows did not attend the meeting, which took place in July 2021 at Mr. Trump’s club at Bedminster, N.J. During the meeting, Mr. Trump referred to a document he appeared to have in front of him and suggested that he should have declassified it but that he no longer could, since he was out of office.

RussBLib

(9,005 posts)
11. I'd been hoping to hear this
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 06:35 PM
Jun 2023

You cannot NOT question the guys that were right there around the orange baboon.

Sounds like Smith is pretty thorough.

Now about those Republican members of Congress who seemed to be somewhat involved in the J6 plot....

Fiendish Thingy

(15,568 posts)
15. I think we knew this
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 06:51 PM
Jun 2023

It didn’t garner much attention, but has been mentioned before, although not the actual number of agents.

moniss

(4,197 posts)
16. They should be
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 06:57 PM
Jun 2023

asking all of them in detail about any people seen going in and out of the areas of the document locations, any packages or boxes observed, any recognition of who the "visitors" have been and any "packages/boxes" going in or out. They should also be asked about any transfers of "luggage/boxes" etc. between Mar-uh-Ghastly and Bedminster.

RainCaster

(10,853 posts)
27. I hope the Mango Mussolini loses a lot of sleep over this one
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 07:56 PM
Jun 2023

If he doesn't want them looking over his shoulder, DFT should be in a Max.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
35. If the NSA or CIA has the deleted emails & texts from his SS agents, they and TFG are screwed!
Tue Jun 6, 2023, 08:42 PM
Jun 2023

Cuffari, as lead SS agent, deleted his and told others he managed to do the same. I do hope they can find these records, nail his ass big time and get at least all the others kicked out of the SS program forever.

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