So, the secret service agents who were part of Trump's detail, now Meadows

[drray23]

That is a lot of people who testified in front of the grand jury for jack smith investigation.
It is not obvious to me its just the document case. Its more likely to be tied to the January 6th events.

I wonder if Smith is going to unleash a barrage of indictments, some for the document case, some for January 6th.

Trump is truly cooked.

[OAITW r.2.0]

1. Watch out for falling indictments Donald!

Your hoax shield ain't gonna stop 'em.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

2. If Meadows has flipped, then things will be getting interesting

Link to tweet

[Alexander Of Assyria]

12. Shock and Awe, multiple indictments, multiple jurisdictions, Georgia to Arizona...

Chief Inspector Smith and other dedicated Incorruptible public servants and prosecutors will drop a hypersonic nuclear payload on a wide target zone on Indictment Day.

Dibs on the movie title!

[wnylib]

19. That would be great, but even though I have

defended DOJ against accusations that they were doing nothing, your post is more than even I have expected to happen.

[brush]

3. The docs case will probably be first as it's a more compact, paper case...

and pretty straight forwrd. IMO the J6 case has so many players from all over with the fake electors and all, plus all the trump/WH/admin figures, it will take much longer.

[drray23]

4. likely yes.

I hope that if the justice system nails Trump thoroughly, it will discourage potential mini-trumps and MAGATS to ever attempt again to corrupt the election system and the country's institutions.

[brush]

5. Reporter Carol Leonig was on Nicole Wallace today...

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and she, choosing her words carefully (her words) said that the revelations via the indicetment will blow the top off of things about trump activities.

She also said that privately trad. republicans/never trumpers are re desperately routing for trump to get nailed to more or less save their party.

So order popcorn and fasten your seat belts.

[wnylib]

21. Never Trumpers have a right to try and

save their party. But, the traditional Republicans, not so much IMO. They were willing to embrace Trump solely for the sake of holding power for their party and preventing Dems from gaining any political advances, no matter how bad Trump was. Now the hypocrites oppose him in order to "cleanse" the party from him.

In the end, their own power is still their only goal. They want their own power over their party back for themselves, not for the good of the nation, which they abandoned when they embraced Trump.

[brush]

24. Well said. Agreed.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

13. Coordinate with prosecutors in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan...drop the entire payload at once!?

[brush]

14. The docs case is just about a slam dunk. Get that done...

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don't cconfuse the grand jury/jurors with too many moving parts. You never know what could happen.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

29. There will be multiple juries in multiple jurisdictions. None will be confused.

[brush]

30. Again, get the docs case done as it's a sure thing.

An attorney guest on MSNBC noted that a there are so many elements to the J6 case that even a small miscalculation by the prosecution can get the case thrown out and trump walks, which is why Jack Smith is taking so long...he's got to make sure every thing is buttoned up.

Again I say get the straight forward docs case done. It doesn't make sense to throw it in together with the much more complicated J6.

Ya take your wins when you can get them. It's not that complicated.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

31. We do agree, only difference I want a Nuclear Bombshell! Not the bang bang of howitzers.

The evil man and his cult minions may fend off howitzers, not nukes.

[brush]

33. I do too. I just don't want him getting off because of some quirk...

or miscalculation or some trumper juror who won't convict.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

34. If there are multiple independent prosecutions the worm can't get off all of them...there is

that danger.

Espionage and obstruction case going first and solo…and the worm gets off that hook before the other fishermen are in the water…not good.

[Tommy Carcetti]

6. I think we're still several months away from January 6th indictments for Trump.

But I do think they're coming.

Not sure if they're all the charges we want, but I think we'll see at least some.

[Hortensis]

7. Yes, Smith apparently has two "distinct lines of inquiry," documents and Jan 6.

The NYT says Meadows is a potential key witness in both...! Of course. He was Chief of Staff through most of 2020 through the attempted coup d'etat until tRump left the WH. BFD.

Experts said these investigations start at the bottom and make their way very methodically out and up through the witnesses and people of interest to the targets.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

8. Mark Meadows Testified to Grand Jury in Special Counsel Investigation of Trump

This is going to be interesting

Link to tweet

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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/us/politics/mark-meadows-testified-trump-grand-jury.html?unlocked_article_code=jEGeMWgEVJ2lxVyNG7EHs-_IUmxMECJn0h8dzZyybmH_yoSZrnOWp7QbPzOmU6d0ErYqmRgBiSE1nDNc9VObQk2PCixyTCsu_OmXDNzzqQQhFBpiGLTDo01RmObZSewujyJFMMYodDNcleqJre1cv6-MTG4vaEV-d_C23Vt9qOBFEKzt9vjUoRiG2K9MOFCPaRzT-YqcAixq5P-WyYyQZ9i2XSsenTNe9Nok_Et0VCopibHSa4CXfW_i3z4QbxfBZRw9nVbAYi7f8eRS_D9pFW-parKXrDvNpBXymFzaQK4NhddKY7n86DI9e5vruaCZRCm5ZQBKE0h_5_wVfNfl-fmKGbX4BA1ZWMSSmWI0QbzF0aPY94Y&smid=url-share

Mark Meadows, the final White House chief of staff under President Donald J. Trump and a potentially key figure in inquiries related to Mr. Trump, has testified before a federal grand jury hearing evidence in the investigations being led by the special counsel’s office, according to two people briefed on the matter.....

Mr. Meadows was around for pivotal moments leading up to and after the 2020 election, as Mr. Trump plotted to try to stay in office and thwart Joseph R. Biden Jr. from being sworn in to succeed him. Some of them were described in hundreds of text messages that Mr. Meadows turned over to the House select committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack at the Capitol before he decided to stop cooperating. Those texts served as a road map for House investigators.

But Mr. Meadows also has insight into efforts by the National Archives to retrieve roughly two dozen boxes of presidential material that officials had been told Mr. Trump took with him when he left the White House in January 2021. Mr. Meadows was one of Mr. Trump’s representatives to the archives, and he had some role in trying to discuss the matter with Mr. Trump, according to two people briefed on the matter.

Mr. Meadows is also now connected tangentially to a potentially vital piece of evidence that investigators uncovered in recent months: an audio recording of an interview that Mr. Trump gave to two people assisting Mr. Meadows in writing a memoir of his White House years.

Mr. Meadows did not attend the meeting, which took place in July 2021 at Mr. Trump’s club at Bedminster, N.J. During the meeting, Mr. Trump referred to a document he appeared to have in front of him and suggested that he should have declassified it but that he no longer could, since he was out of office.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

32. Meadows does not have the photogenic evil eyes look so common in the demons of the right.

Amateur assessment of evil from afar.

[FakeNoose]

9. Mark Meadows is firmly in the center of the top secret documents theft

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Remember when Cassidy Hutchinson testified before the House Select Committee for January 6th? She's the one who first revealed (to my knowledge) that Mark Meadows burned secret documents and she discussed it with the Committee. All of a sudden there was an uproar when the Committee realized that those documents were not safely stored at the National Archives, but in Chump's possession down at Mar-A-Lago. (Or burned or otherwise destroyed.)

Cassidy Hutchinson reported directly to Mark Meadows, and it happened under his direction just before Chump left the White House. (Along with a lot of other stuff.) Meadows could very well be looking at federal indictments himself with the same charges as Chump.

There are tons of articles out there:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgp3ab/mark-meadows-burned-documents-cassidy-hutchinson-testimony
https://people.com/politics/cassidy-hutchinson-testimony-mark-meadows-burned-documents-white-house/
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/27/politics/january-6-transcripts-key-findings/index.html

[onetexan]

22. THIS!!☝️

[FakeNoose]

26. Thanks for the feedback

After I posted this today I read another story in which there is speculation that Meadows has agreed to testify against Chump in return for a lighter sentence - in other words a plea deal.

This hasn't been confirmed by DoJ yet, but it makes sense that Meadows would take the deal. Mark Meadows was Chump's Chief of Staff for only about 7 or 8 months in 2020. He's probably thinking he doesn't want to go to prison for the rest of his life for a slimy character like Chump. (He's just as slimy, and he's also a younger man than Chump.)

This is definitely worth watching and keeping tabs on.

[onetexan]

28. Interesting re: Meadows, FN

guy's a slimy opportunist, as they all are, so i'm sure he wants to save his hide from prison. I hope Jack Smith w take the whole cabal down, including equally slimy cruz, rubio & hawley.

[MLAA]

10. the fuck l'orange is cooked indeed!

[moniss]

11. I have no doubt

that at some point the Orange Ruski and his lawyers will try out the "it was just joking" defense for the whole documents/obstruction case.

An interesting question that I would like an answer to, although the media will never think to ask it, is about his contact/phone calls etc. with Putin since leaving office. While in office he stated he constantly talked to Putin on his personal phone. What have they been talking about since leaving office? Maybe how to drain a swimming pool?

[Takket]

15. can the testimony of the SS be trusted?

it has been pretty well reported that drumpf corrupted the SS with MAGAts.

[drray23]

16. yes it can.

There were reports it was around 20 agents. Nobody is going to lie under oath to a federal prosecutor to save Trump. The odds that they will be found out when it does not match what other agents testify to would be high.
When you are faced with dire consequences ( these agents are not billionaires or powerful politicians who can hire armies of lawyers and jam up the process) you tell the truth.

[Takket]

17. +1

[odiometus]

18. So he did the crimes, he'll pay the fines.

No one is above the law, but many are above justice. Like poster-boy trump.

His calendar for 2023: Go golfing at my mansion. Then shriek about hoax witch-hunts. Then golf some. Then bury the courts in hipposhit. Pay some fines. Then go golfing. Repeat.

[drray23]

20. I think this time it's going to be more consequential than fines.nt.

[kimbutgar]

23. I just wish he did indictments like yesterday!!!

I look forward to the day waking up to hear that the magoloon is indicted and arrested because the charges are so treasonous that he becomes synonymous with Benedict Arnold in history.

[Alice Kramden]

25. Agree completely

The name "Trump" in the future should be an epithet of the highest degree of insult and mockery, synonymous with treason, ignorance and failure

[kimbutgar]

27. +1

Like don’t be a t###p!