U.S. Has UFOs of 'Non-Human Origin', Ex-Intelligence Officer Claims

[Beachnutt]

Newsweek


An ex-U.S. military and intelligence worker has given an interview in which he says that the U.S. has found and covered up several "non-human origin" crafts.
David Grusch, a 36-year-old airforce veteran, told NewsNation on Monday evening that a top-secret military program found the wreckage of fully intact UFOs, or "unidentified aerial phenomena" (UAPs).
"These are retrieving non-human origin technical vehicles, call it spacecraft if you will, non-human exotic origin vehicles that have either landed or crashed," Grusch said. He added that, in those wreckages, the pilots of the craft were found.
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https://www.newsweek.com/ufo-uap-craft-found-covered-whistleblower-claims-1804733

[RandySF]

1. No intelligent being would want to come here.

[DET]

8. Persuasive Argument

However, if we have recovered UFOs - and especially alien beings - Trump would presumably have been informed and would have blabbed about it. That man could not keep his mouth shut about such an explosive development.

[Angleae]

22. Trump would not necessarily have been informed.

Only if it was recovered during his administration and even then it's a maybe. If he, or any other president, were to be informed about everything the executive department does it would be such an information overload his brain would explode.

[roamer65]

44. You would come here if u were exploring.

I’m sure other beings would probably be interested in our planet on a least a scientific nature.

[edhopper]

2. I am willing to bet hard cash

that this will turn out to not be the case.

National Intelligence officers can also be crackpots.

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[Beachnutt]

5. You're absolutely right But

if you google this guys name it has been all over the last few days, David
Grusch.

[Native]

11. Here's the original interview. Lots of legit people are standing up for him.

https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/

[stopdiggin]

18. lots of other 'legit' people coming forward

to say that have participated in "recovering non-human craft"?

[triron]

24. Your post is misleading.

[stopdiggin]

33. you're probably right. intended as sarcasm

I should have added a thingie.
here it is
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[chowder66]

15. +1

[Willis88]

3. Waiting for hard evidence

[Haggard Celine]

4. Looks like they've decided to reveal some things

about evidence of aliens. They're going to reveal these things one at a time in order to give people time to digest it. It's going to be a blow to religion, and that's good. But they'll come up with some shit to incorporate the aliens, too. I think a new religion will emerge, one that will encompass the cosmos. Maybe the government has to reveal these things; maybe the aliens have told them that we can reveal these things or they will.

[roamer65]

7. My first question to any alien that reveals itself would be why are you doing it.

Columbus revealed himself to Native Americans and how did that go for them?

Not so good.

[Haggard Celine]

10. Yeah, that's a big worry.

But I think they've been coming here for a long time. They might have been here all along. It's a big ocean, and Cthulhu and his minions are going to rise up one day. Lots of underground caverns and water under the land. A being could hide out and never be detected. I think there's beings on other planets, too. I know it's been said, but that would be a whole lot of wasted space if we were the only intelligent life, and we're not as intelligent as we think we are.

[Ilsa]

6. Aliens? I bet Abbott and DeeSantus have something to do

with their travel arrangements.

I wonder if other nations have found anything?

[Disaffected]

37. "I wonder if other nations have found anything?"

Nah, alien spacecraft are found only in the US (for some strange reason).

[Ilsa]

51. I know there are old stories out of England. nt

[Disaffected]

52. Yeah, a few other countries as well but,

the US seems to have almost a monopoly, at least now-a-days. There are one or two explanations for this which I will not get in to now.

[PCIntern]

54. More like Abbott and Costello....

[Liberal In Texas]

9. Holy Bob Lazar

The guy who was a regular on the old Coast to Coast show with Art Bell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar
https://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/bob-lazar.htm

[roamer65]

12. I have always felt Lazar was not lying.

Maybe embellishing a bit, but not lying.

[Haggard Celine]

16. I agree.

I can usually spot a liar, and he didn't look like he was lying. The culture of secrecy of the Defense Department and other agencies helps them attack people who speak up and they make fun of them. None of these people seem to have any physical evidence, so a lot of 'experts' dismiss their claims. But I think a lot of them are being truthful.

[Disaffected]

38. You should go into law enforcement work if

you can tell people are lying by looking at them!

[triron]

19. I enjoyed reading about Lazar's accounts.

My bet is it's mostly true.

[Kingofalldems]

42. Always a great show.

Art Bell would give guests time to explain themselves thoroughly. The Lazar guy was especially interesting.

[honest.abe]

13. I dont get why the Governement is so concerned about letting us commoners know the truth.

[triron]

20. They fear social upheaval especially religious.

[marybourg]

23. But it's also the only thing that would unite the countries of the planet.

[triron]

27. I seriously doubt that.

Also 'unite' for what? You think the aliens have malevolent intent? Extremely unlikely. We would have long known that. Besides it would be both stupid and disastrous for humans to make threatening gestures toward the aliens.

[honest.abe]

25. I seriously doubt that would happen.

The religious folks would simply come up with a religious explanation much like they did for evolution and dinosaurs.

[triron]

28. How does that stop upheaval?

[honest.abe]

30. Because they would deal with it just like they have dealt...

with other scientific discoveries that challenged their religious beliefs.

[triron]

41. How many people believe the earth is the center of the cosmos?

Maybe not 'upheaval ' but fundamental change nevertheless.

[edhopper]

29. That is such bullshit

There have been thousands of books and movies about alien visitation. Half the public already believes we have been visited.
The society panic idiocy is just a poor excuse for those who believe the government has evidence they won't release.
It conspiracy theory 101.

[honest.abe]

31. Well you said it much better than me.

[Disaffected]

39. There's no end to the ways that

folks can rationalize their unfounded beliefs.

Yes - conspiracy theories. The notion that the existence of all these supposed alien spacecraft could have been kept secret for literally decades defies logic.

[edhopper]

40. Or that every Administration

In the last 70-50 years, no matter how polar opposite, agree completely on this one thing.

[Lovie777]

14. We are not alone...............

[Xolodno]

17. Not buying it.

But if true, then it is possible for faster than light travel. How? Probably in a way we haven't thought about as we use propulsion as a crutch.

[stopdiggin]

21. Waiting for evidence - - still

Bring down the yeti or sasquatch - and bring it in for analysis.

[Takket]

26. yuh huh

[edhopper]

32. More

Hanger 18 type foolishness.

[Mr.Bill]

34. So how is this Air Force veteran

revealing top secret classified information and not getting nailed for it?

[honest.abe]

36. Indeed.. if revealing this evidence is considered such a massive national security risk..

he would have been disappeared by now.

[roamer65]

45. More than likely he has been allowed to leak it.

[hunter]

35. I enjoyed the previous thread...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143083484

[roamer65]

43. We are being spoon fed "the reveal".

The fear has always been a drastic release would cause worldwide pandemonium.

Personally, I don’t think it will happen other than the hyper religious nut cases.

[Hekate]

46. Time for re-runs of The X-Files

I loved that series.

[jcgoldie]

47. oooo

[Archae]

48. I'm going to be blunt here.

I'd say this guy is a horseshit salesman.

He's going to be hawking a book soon.

Or movie.

I'd love it if aliens came to Earth.

But TO DATE, none of this stuff has been shown to be real.

There are three groups of "true believers."

1. Crazies.
2. "The Cause" pushers.
3. Grifters.

[DemocraticPatriot]

49. I watched a lot of the UFO shows on the history channel....

They all seemed to point to the argument that earth's humanity
may have been "planted" on earth, by aliens...

and thus, the "God" and "Father" we should be worshipping,
is actually the aliens who planted us here....


Well, that would certainly fuck up every world religion on earth.... LOL

[Shanti Shanti Shanti]

50. Yeah, Ancient Aliens should have some new episodes in the works, finally

Good stuff, sky gods are coming!

For real this time!

[MineralMan]

53. Yet another ex-intellignce officer speaks? How many has that been, now?

Which branch of the military? How long did he serve and at what rank? Let's have the details, please.

Yet another bullshit merchant.

Guess what? I'm an ex-military intelligence person. I'm not saying anything about anything classified, and that was over 50 years ago. Not a word.

I will say that I knew nothing about anything with non-human origins. Not a thing.