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tenderfoot

(8,982 posts)
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 10:20 AM Jun 2023

Revenge served ice cold? Top L.A. law firm outs former partners' racist, sexist emails

Last month, Lewis, Brisbois, Bisgaard and Smith, one of the nation’s largest law firms, was rocked by the announcement that two top partners were starting their own boutique practice and taking as many as 140 colleagues with them.

The shock inside Lewis Brisbois’ downtown Los Angeles headquarters soon gave way to anger as the recently departed partners embarked on a press campaign that portrayed their former employer as a profit-focused legal mill that ground down the aspirations of its lawyers.


In an extraordinary move, its management team directed the release of scores of emails in which Barber and Ranen used vile terms for women, Black people, Armenians, Persians, and gay men and traded in offensive stereotypes of Jews and Asians. In one fell swoop, the venerable firm managed to torpedo its new rival, destroy the defecting partners’ careers and send the legal establishment reeling.

The emails, stretching back 15 years, were head-spinning in their coarseness and vitriol. A Superior Court judge was called “Sugar Tits.” Multiple female lawyers were referred to as “c—t.” The epithets “fag” and “faggot” were deployed as all-purpose insults. An Asian job applicant was denigrated for the supposed size of his genitalia. Ranen dismissed another job candidate with, “How about someone who’s not a Jew.”

By Monday, the emails had been excerpted by the New York Post and the Forward, a Jewish newspaper, and the nascent firm Barber Ranen had collapsed.


https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-06-07/revenge-delivered-ice-cold-top-l-a-law-firm-outs-former-partners-racist-sexist-emails
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Revenge served ice cold? Top L.A. law firm outs former partners' racist, sexist emails (Original Post) tenderfoot Jun 2023 OP
FAFO! leftieNanner Jun 2023 #1
Yes, it has been a fun morning! ananda Jun 2023 #5
the racist/sexist pigs don't know what hit them! BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 2023 #23
CAL BAR -- Links to atty profiles Scottie Mom Jun 2023 #41
The old firm tolerated this until they broke away Renew Deal Jun 2023 #2
Agreed. AltairIV Jun 2023 #3
Exactly. TxGuitar Jun 2023 #4
That's my thought on this, too RainCaster Jun 2023 #6
Yep, which probably means many of the remaining lawyers... Silent3 Jun 2023 #8
We'll get to them... next. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2023 #11
And we wonder why Trump was elected. yardwork Jun 2023 #22
It makes me wonder if they made themselves vulnerable to suits. SYFROYH Jun 2023 #30
Yep. Emails go back 15 years. CaptainTruth Jun 2023 #32
Exactly BonnieJW Jun 2023 #37
+1. A very important point. dalton99a Jun 2023 #40
That would seem to be the second takeaway quakerboy Jun 2023 #42
What, those emails were only between the two partners who left? Sure. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2023 #7
Good Point ProfessorGAC Jun 2023 #28
"A plague on both your houses"... Spazito Jun 2023 #9
As a veteran support staffer in big law firms... Yavin4 Jun 2023 #10
As a vendor to big law firms Casady1 Jun 2023 #15
Appearance wise. Yavin4 Jun 2023 #16
I'm talking about the Casady1 Jun 2023 #19
IT dept is totally different. Yavin4 Jun 2023 #35
Recently retired after 40+ years of practice onenote Jun 2023 #43
Lucky you. Yavin4 Jun 2023 #44
Just the old boys' club malaise Jun 2023 #12
Isn't all that excused as UpInArms Jun 2023 #13
Here's 'locker room talk' - Tom Hanks as Andrew Beckett GoneOffShore Jun 2023 #27
Wow. Any human should know better, especially a lawyer, and ESPECIALLY an L&E lawyer. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #14
I work in ediscovery Casady1 Jun 2023 #17
Yes. These two chucklenuts apparently thought e-records didn't apply to them Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #20
Revenge is like a fine wine Beachnutt Jun 2023 #18
... Behind the Aegis Jun 2023 #21
JFC. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #24
"We are ashamed of the words we wrote, and we are deeply sorry." only because your words were shared BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 2023 #25
When a female lawyer asked for upgrades to the firm lactation room, Ranen forwarded it to a male col BlueWaveNeverEnd Jun 2023 #26
A Couple Of Real Charmers! ProfessorGAC Jun 2023 #29
As Grammy Hall used to say, "Mind your manners or you'll pay the piper!" Ford_Prefect Jun 2023 #31
I have litigated against their LA office. Scottie Mom Jun 2023 #33
'Both helped run the labor and employment practice, speak easy Jun 2023 #34
Were the 140 ejbr Jun 2023 #36
Well, aren't they special? Hekate Jun 2023 #38
"We are sorry that we put all that in writing" dalton99a Jun 2023 #39

TxGuitar

(4,340 posts)
4. Exactly.
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 10:37 AM
Jun 2023

Like Texas republicans were fine with Paxton until he asked them to pay his bills. Then they had a problem. Same here.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
8. Yep, which probably means many of the remaining lawyers...
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 10:42 AM
Jun 2023

...are just as vile, or at best too tolerant of intolerance.

SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
30. It makes me wonder if they made themselves vulnerable to suits.
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:46 PM
Jun 2023

Especially those emails related to workplace harassment and hiring discrimination.

CaptainTruth

(8,204 posts)
32. Yep. Emails go back 15 years.
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:54 PM
Jun 2023

Did they know about this for years & do nothing about it?

This makes me wonder about the attorneys that are still with the firm!

BonnieJW

(3,124 posts)
37. Exactly
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 01:14 PM
Jun 2023

Where were these wonderful attorneys who are the senior partners these past 15 years? What was their reaction when women were being called denigrating names? What did they do when racial slurs were flying? Doesn't say much for the original firm.

ProfessorGAC

(76,742 posts)
28. Good Point
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:42 PM
Jun 2023

They seemed awfully simple to track down, too. In a firm that big, seems they'd be looking for a needle in a haystack.
Unless, of course, it was very common & widely distributed so everybody in management already knew.

Spazito

(55,569 posts)
9. "A plague on both your houses"...
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 10:57 AM
Jun 2023

is apt in this case, imo. The larger law firm had no problem with their partners being racist, anti-Semitic, homophobic, etc. until two of them decided to leave. The two that left are putrid and deserve everything that happens to them, imo.

The quote I used is from Shakespeare's Romeo & Juliet.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
10. As a veteran support staffer in big law firms...
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 11:00 AM
Jun 2023

I would be more shocked when a partner wasn't racist and sexist.

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
15. As a vendor to big law firms
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:07 PM
Jun 2023

I always have thought most firms were pretty professional. I still call into law firms.

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
19. I'm talking about the
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:13 PM
Jun 2023

IT department. I also was very involved in white collar crime and was invited to Rudy Guiliani's introduction at the White Collar conference by Greenberg Trauig.

onenote

(46,147 posts)
43. Recently retired after 40+ years of practice
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 02:45 PM
Jun 2023

Spent half of it at two AmLaw 100 firms -- the partners and practices were extremely progressive.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
44. Lucky you.
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 04:14 PM
Jun 2023

Then again, you're probably a White man, so you wouldn't notice the inherent racism and sexism that's been engrained in your institution.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
14. Wow. Any human should know better, especially a lawyer, and ESPECIALLY an L&E lawyer.
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 11:49 AM
Jun 2023

They litigate this stuff regularly.

Somehow could understand complex legal issues, but somehow it didn't occur to them that the internet is forever and can bite your butt years later?

What scum. I'm glad their careers have been torpedoed.

And Lewis Brisbois sure has a lot of 'splainin' to do.

 

Casady1

(2,133 posts)
17. I work in ediscovery
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:11 PM
Jun 2023

and introduced predictive coding to the entire legal market. We call email evidence.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
20. Yes. These two chucklenuts apparently thought e-records didn't apply to them
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:22 PM
Jun 2023

cuz ... they were special. And white. And males. And not Jewish. And not lowly associates.

Behind the Aegis

(56,113 posts)
21. ...
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:23 PM
Jun 2023

Part of an email thread between John Barber and Jeff Ranen, two law firm partners who quit Lewis Brisbois on May 2, 2023. Photo by Screenshot/Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard & Smith

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(14,287 posts)
25. "We are ashamed of the words we wrote, and we are deeply sorry." only because your words were shared
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:27 PM
Jun 2023

with the world

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(14,287 posts)
26. When a female lawyer asked for upgrades to the firm lactation room, Ranen forwarded it to a male col
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:34 PM
Jun 2023
When a female lawyer asked for upgrades to the firm lactation room, Ranen forwarded it to a male colleague with speculation about her appearance after bearing two children. He then added, “She could be 200 pounds and acne scarred and after all this time I’d still f— her.”


Jonathan Delshad, an attorney who opposed Lewis Brisbois in a 2016 case, found out from The Times on Tuesday that Ranen had written of him to a co-worker, “Tell him that he’s the reason why most people hate Jews.”


“Kill her by anal penetration,” Barber emailed Ranen in June 2012, reacting to an overtime request from another Lewis Brisbois attorney.


Ford_Prefect

(8,616 posts)
31. As Grammy Hall used to say, "Mind your manners or you'll pay the piper!"
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:46 PM
Jun 2023

Oh My Goodness!


(Light years beyond sarcasm)

Scottie Mom

(5,838 posts)
33. I have litigated against their LA office.
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:56 PM
Jun 2023

Last edited Wed Jun 7, 2023, 02:04 PM - Edit history (1)

A bunch of assholes...always. I cannot EVEN begin to tell stories about them. I can say this, however: It seemed to me that their L.A. office would do ANYTHING to win.

Here is a link the the LA DailyJournal...not a paywall here:

https://www.dailyjournal.com/articles/373176-attorneys-ousted-from-law-firm-they-created-last-month-after-old-emails-surface

Another link: From the ABA:

https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/leaders-of-lewis-brisbois-rebellion-sent-emails-with-wildly-offensive-language-newspaper-reports

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
34. 'Both helped run the labor and employment practice,
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 12:56 PM
Jun 2023

defending corporations against harassment and discrimination lawsuits'

WHAT a surprise

dalton99a

(94,218 posts)
39. "We are sorry that we put all that in writing"
Wed Jun 7, 2023, 01:53 PM
Jun 2023



“Kill her by anal penetration,” John Barber said in reaction to an overtime request from a Lewis Brisbois employee.


John Barber jokes about a calling a female judge “sugar tits.”


John Barber and Jeffrey Ranen sent racist emails shortly after the death of George Floyd.


John Barber casually used the N-word in work emails.



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