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Lawrence O'Donnell dissected former Trump attorney tonight (Original Post) Nevilledog Jun 2023 OP
I must say Parlatore is quite creative. drray23 Jun 2023 #1
It's BS. moondust Jun 2023 #4
Most of those are copies tinrobot Jun 2023 #5
To be clear... Happy Hoosier Jun 2023 #6
They are also still documents. everyonematters Jun 2023 #13
So when spies take photos of top secret docs edhopper Jun 2023 #17
The lawyer: how do you know it was classified? How do you know that is a desk? CharleyDog Jun 2023 #2
He acted like every stereotype there is for a lawyer all at once.. madaboutharry Jun 2023 #3
Repulsive DET Jun 2023 #7
Indeed! 👍 Duppers Jun 2023 #9
Dissected? I was hoping for graphic footage. He does look like a toad, after all. GoneOffShore Jun 2023 #8
He sure did! Deminpenn Jun 2023 #10
Was the word "espionage" mentioned on Lawrence's show tonight? OneGrassRoot Jun 2023 #11
Video malaise Jun 2023 #12
I couldn't stand to watch the whole interview. GoCubsGo Jun 2023 #14
A genuine malaise Jun 2023 #15
I don't believe he left the team because of differences with Epshteyn ... kentuck Jun 2023 #16
I agree with you. Nevilledog Jun 2023 #18

drray23

(8,759 posts)
1. I must say Parlatore is quite creative.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 12:08 AM
Jun 2023

At some point he argued that everything was fine because the statute said government records and documents, not copies. So he was saying, well if it's a copy we are good. That is a big stretch.

moondust

(21,288 posts)
4. It's BS.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 12:35 AM
Jun 2023

The content is what matters--not the condition of the print. He probably knows that and is trying to distract. Prosecutors wouldn't bother with the case if his claim was valid.

I doubt all the folders and cover sheets with borders, etc., are copies:



tinrobot

(12,062 posts)
5. Most of those are copies
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 01:03 AM
Jun 2023

The red border on the originals goes to the edge of the paper. Copy machines don't copy the full page to the edges - thus the white borders on the edge.

More explanation here:
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/5/27/2171698/-I-have-been-waiting-for-someone-to-point-out-the-obvious-tell-in-this-photo

Regardless, it doesn't matter - it's the information itself that is classified. Plus making the copies themselves is probably another crime.

everyonematters

(4,158 posts)
13. They are also still documents.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:50 AM
Jun 2023

For the obstruction case, all that matters is they are government documents.

CharleyDog

(816 posts)
2. The lawyer: how do you know it was classified? How do you know that is a desk?
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 12:09 AM
Jun 2023

The lawyer: Other presidents have desks and documents, they're not being targeted.

madaboutharry

(42,033 posts)
3. He acted like every stereotype there is for a lawyer all at once..
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 12:26 AM
Jun 2023

I was waiting for Lawrence to lean across the desk and say something like “Listen up you little fucker, stop gaslighting me!”

DET

(2,501 posts)
7. Repulsive
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 01:13 AM
Jun 2023

I don’t know how O’Donnell kept his cool across from that smug, lying POS. Clearly thinks he’s untouchable.

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
10. He sure did!
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:38 AM
Jun 2023

Parlatore didn't even anticipate the next question after O'Donnell asked him if Trump knew what was in Trump's own desk.

If the arguments Parlatore was making are the same ones Trump's lawyers intend to make in court, they are going to be destroyed.

OneGrassRoot

(23,953 posts)
11. Was the word "espionage" mentioned on Lawrence's show tonight?
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 07:45 AM
Jun 2023

Super curious about that and why it is being avoided given the rampant speculation.

kentuck

(115,407 posts)
16. I don't believe he left the team because of differences with Epshteyn ...
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 08:39 AM
Jun 2023

Last edited Thu Jun 8, 2023, 10:23 AM - Edit history (1)

I think he left to speak on behalf of Donald Trump's defense.

He was saying it was normal for a former president to have two years to examine files and documents. Also, Trump was not given enough time after the subpoena to find all the documents? (Of course, the FBI found 100's of documents in just a matter of hours)

He did not know what was in Trump's desk, although he said he had listened to the tape from Bedminster. Also, he said all the documents were "copies". (Isn't it illegal to copy classified documents?)

He was a slick lawyer sent out to speak for Trump, in my opinion. I don't know why he wanted to mention Epshteyn by name?

Nevilledog

(55,082 posts)
18. I agree with you.
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 01:14 PM
Jun 2023

This guy was a nobody, never heard his name before he quit. Why would you quit for no apparent reason and then go on all the news shows? He's just carrying water for Trump and I'm betting he's still getting paid to do so.

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