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kpete

(72,901 posts)
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 09:35 AM Jun 2023

Grrrrr: Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee, initially assigned to oversee his case

The summons sent to former President Donald Trump and his legal team late Thursday indicates that U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon will be assigned to oversee his case, at least initially, according to sources briefed on the matter.

Cannon's apparent assignment would add yet another unprecedented wrinkle to a case involving the first federal charges against a former president: Trump appointed Cannon to the federal bench in 2019, meaning that, if Trump is ultimately convicted, she would be responsible for determining the sentence – which may include prison time – for the man who elevated her to the role.

A federal grand jury voted to indict Trump on at least seven federal charges late Thursday as part of an investigation into his handling of classified documents, sources familiar with the matter told ABC News. The indictment comes after more than 100 documents with classified markings were found at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in August 2022.

Trump has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing and claimed again late Thursday that he was innocent.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-aileen-cannon-trump-appointee-initially-assigned-oversee/story?id=99956910


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Grrrrr: Judge Aileen Cannon, a Trump appointee, initially assigned to oversee his case (Original Post) kpete Jun 2023 OP
I brought this up yesterday and everyone here chewed me out Marius25 Jun 2023 #1
I was not among them EYESORE 9001 Jun 2023 #3
What a terrible choice. She has already shown that she in for trump. brer cat Jun 2023 #2
It's not a choice VMA131Marine Jun 2023 #4
Actually, it's more likely getagrip_already Jun 2023 #8
Surely JanLip Jun 2023 #6
This is what I was afraid of... hippywife Jun 2023 #5
She needs to recuse herself....but won't since she's GOP. sinkingfeeling Jun 2023 #7
Wonderful atreides1 Jun 2023 #9
Can she just dismiss the case? Mz Pip Jun 2023 #10
Yes she can. Marius25 Jun 2023 #12
But it would be overturned on appeal... AGAIN. NT Happy Hoosier Jun 2023 #20
Before or after she dismisses the charges? Marius25 Jun 2023 #21
Doesn't matter. Happy Hoosier Jun 2023 #22
The main problem that she presents, gab13by13 Jun 2023 #11
Well, he can't complain about being treated unfairly tulipsandroses Jun 2023 #13
I think people might be misinterpreting this. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #14
The crimes were committed in West Palm Beach Marius25 Jun 2023 #15
She should be randomly assigned, correct? gab13by13 Jun 2023 #17
It was actually Judge Reinhart who signed off on the warrant. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2023 #19
That's great news Effete Snob Jun 2023 #16
That will be fine with her, gab13by13 Jun 2023 #18
I don't think this is decided yet Johnny2X2X Jun 2023 #23
Unbelievable honest.abe Jun 2023 #24
Take a deep breath and read this. Bleacher Creature Jun 2023 #25
Thank you. This helps. honest.abe Jun 2023 #27
Uh... recusal???? Takket Jun 2023 #26
 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
1. I brought this up yesterday and everyone here chewed me out
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 09:35 AM
Jun 2023

saying how dare I post something so stupid and she can't possibly get this case.

EYESORE 9001

(29,728 posts)
3. I was not among them
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 09:40 AM
Jun 2023

I do question whether this means the rump judge would be presiding over actual proceedings. I read that her name may have been there due to merde-a-log’o search warrant.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
8. Actually, it's more likely
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 09:45 AM
Jun 2023

That she was assigned because she is familiar with the case and is in the circuit.

It doesn't mean the doj won't object though. They may not.

Surely they knew it was likely. But there must be some recourse.

JanLip

(862 posts)
6. Surely
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 09:44 AM
Jun 2023

This will be stopped. Who the hell did this. We know exactly what sentence she will give the orange baboon already. OMG

Jan

hippywife

(22,777 posts)
5. This is what I was afraid of...
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 09:43 AM
Jun 2023

a Rittenhouse type situation due to the judge overseeing the case. She needs to recuse as she's already proved she's definitely in the bag for the former Oaf of Office.

atreides1

(16,799 posts)
9. Wonderful
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 09:49 AM
Jun 2023

Any bets, on how long it takes her to dismiss the case based on the allegations of prosecutorial misconduct?

Happy Hoosier

(9,535 posts)
22. Doesn't matter.
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 10:28 AM
Jun 2023

If she dismisses, DOJ will file an expedited appeal, and she will be overturned.

gab13by13

(32,318 posts)
11. The main problem that she presents,
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 09:53 AM
Jun 2023

she will delay the trial until after the election.

Explain to me again how her name was randomly drawn, it wasn't randomly drawn the last time, Trump lawyers bypassed the system.

tulipsandroses

(8,251 posts)
13. Well, he can't complain about being treated unfairly
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 10:04 AM
Jun 2023

He is on home turf with a trump friendly judge. If a jury finds him guilty, he can’t cry that democrats are treating him unfairly. He will, but..,

Tommy Carcetti

(44,498 posts)
14. I think people might be misinterpreting this.
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 10:05 AM
Jun 2023

Court filings for the arraignment include her name. People assume she's been assigned to hear the arraignment.

The arraignment is in Miami.

Judge Cannon sits in Fort Pierce, which is over 100 miles north of Miami.

It would make no sense for one judge to travel 100 miles down to a place where there are multiple judges available to hear the case.

However, Judge Cannon did notoriously oversee the review of the documents that formed the basis for these charges.

Therefore, it's possible--and likely even, considering the logic of the situation--that her name was included simply because of her prior involvement on the case, not because she's been assigned to hear it.

Electronic court filings typically have a broad service list that includes all lawyers and individuals who have been involved in the case at some point.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
15. The crimes were committed in West Palm Beach
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 10:09 AM
Jun 2023

She was assigned the initial case, despite being in Fort Pierce. As a federal judge, she can be assigned to an arraignment in Miami.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,498 posts)
19. It was actually Judge Reinhart who signed off on the warrant.
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 10:22 AM
Jun 2023

He's based out of West Palm Beach, the closest SDFL courthouse from Mar a Lago.

Cannon--out of Fort Pierce, another SDFL courthouse but 50 miles north--was the judge assigned when Trump challenged the seizure of the documents. She then assigned the review to a special master, who worked up in New York. Eventually the appeals court dismissed the special master process and that was that.

The SDFL has 5 courthouses--Fort Pierce, West Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, Miami and Key West.

Technically proceedings in the SDFL could take place in any one of those courthouses, and that has borne out in this case.

But I don't think they would simply have one judge travel from one courthouse to another to hear an arraignment, especially when there are multiple judges in Miami. Perhaps if it was the other way around, because Fort Pierce is a small outpost while Miami is the main courthouse. But not Fort Pierce to Miami.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
16. That's great news
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 10:19 AM
Jun 2023

The 11th Circuit is going to have more fun with her.

And, how much you want to bet that she ends up on the other side of the bench for some reason?

gab13by13

(32,318 posts)
18. That will be fine with her,
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 10:22 AM
Jun 2023

her main job will be to delay a trial until after the election, if she is going to be the judge.

It is too unreal if she gets this case.

Johnny2X2X

(24,207 posts)
23. I don't think this is decided yet
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 10:31 AM
Jun 2023

We'll probably learn next week. But she was handling aspects of the case before, so it would be normal for her to be mentioned in the filiings.

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
27. Thank you. This helps.
Fri Jun 9, 2023, 11:11 AM
Jun 2023

You have to read all 4 of her comments to get the full gist.. especially number 4.

Here are comments 2,3 and 4.

2/Altho a judge's behavior in court generally doesn't form the basis for recusal, the 11th Circuit has ordered "reassignment" where a judge leans so heavily for a defendant they call their objectivity in the eyes of the public into question. This is from US v. Martin

3/This is persuasive authority that Judge Cannon must step aside if the case falls to her as a permanent assignment. Her court & certainly the 11th won't tolerate the damage it would do to their credibility if she failed to voluntarily recuse.

4/It is not clear Cannon is permanently assigned to the case. If she is, it's extremely unlikely it stays with her and as a last resort, DOJ will challenge her participation and win.

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