Do you think there's any reason to exhume Ivana Trump's casket?

[phylny]

She died July 14, 2022 and was buried July 20th. I don't know if he still had documents at that time. I wouldn't put it past him to stuff evidence in with her. Remember, it was rumored that she was cremated, so no need for a casket with 10 pallbearers.

I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but I'm allowing myself some fun today.

[leftieNanner]

1. Well, they should certainly search his New Jersey golf club

We have seen images of him loading boxes onto his plane before flying north.

I wouldn't put it past him to hide things in her casket, although they wouldn't be too easy to access if he decided he needed them.

[Ocelot II]

2. No. She's buried at Bedminster because under NJ law a private cemetery gets a tax break.

It's obvious that TFG didn't try to hide any classified documents; he kept them in his bathroom, FFS!

[AllyCat]

46. It was pretty heavy for a woman who was cremated.

[Tetrachloride]

3. Ask the funeral director.

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. Only to stuff her ex-husbnd in it with her.

That is MY dream.

[wnylib]

13. Alive.

[rubbersole]

37. That is so unfair to Ivana.

[wnylib]

40. He'd probably rape her corpse if she hadn't been cremated..

But you're right. Her ashes deserve to be left in peace.

I'm still puzzled over how he got the right to claim her body and decide where to bury her ashes. He's had two different wives since Ivanna. Only thing I can figure is that her children went along with anything Trump wanted.

[rubbersole]

44. He probably promised Ivanka (and Jared) $2 billion.

[Claustrum]

5. He can't show off those documents if it's in her casket. n/t

[phylny]

7. Good point!

[live love laugh]

10. ✔️+

[DENVERPOPS]

32. However, since the casket is on his property

he retains complete control of it if has documents in the casket.

It's a little hard to take a backhoe to a cemetery, but it is easy to have a backhoe go to the burial site in the middle of the night if it is on your expansive property......or tunnel into it from a nearby area........

[chocolatpi]

6. Was it treated as a suspicious death?

With the barbarian don, anything is possible, imo.

[brooklynite]

24. Only in the liberal blogosphere

The New York Medical Examiner — a Democrat — said she died of natural causes.

This burial conspiracy theory is beyond silly.

[colorado_ufo]

34. Only a lead lined casket needs 10 pallbearers. That's the kind of casket in which

Queen Elizabeth II was interred. Cremated ashes are a one person carry.

A lead lined casket is X-ray proof. He could easily hide the best/worst of the documents in there and wait until it all "blows over." At least, that is what he may have thought. Being buried on his own property, he could go in after dark and take out whatever he wanted.

[jmowreader]

36. Not really

Ivana Trump was cremated after death. A really top-of-line urn is about a foot square x 9" deep and, with cremains in it, weighs less than 20 pounds. Just the cremains weigh between six and eight pounds - let's split it in two and say seven. If Trump was super fired up about not having her cremains biodegrade putting them in a plastic liner and gluing on the lid with silicone would solve the problem nicely.

Ivana's cremains were buried in a full-size casket that took ten men to move. There is no way Trump would have put seven pounds of ashes in a lead-lined casket...for one thing, those are ultra expensive and he is the archetype for cheap bastard-dom...so there was SOMETHING in the box with her - and the current DU theory is he set up her coffin as a dead drop.

[Oppaloopa]

55. I am sure she had a will What did it say about her final resting place?

Why did her daughter leave him.? They did both testify behind closed doors. A lot more will come out soon when people stop being afraid of him wait and see.

[Maine Abu El Banat]

8. Are you asking if Trump could do something so vile

Hell yes, dig her up.

[phylny]

11. No, I'm asking because I KNOW he could do something so vile!

[Marthe48]

9. I have mixed feelings about this

there might be something in the casket, but OTOH, it'd be hard to flood a golf course, if the need arose.

[bucolic_frolic]

12. No. They've got all they need. A fishing expedition might not play well in court.

Now if they turn up someone in his entourage who says there's something to it, they should, and already would have, go(ne) for it.

[hippywife]

14. I think it's likely...

however, what happens if they dig up the casket and it's as empty as Al Capone's safe? I can't even imagine the shit that would hit the fan then, but I'm guessing both thoughts have occurred to investigators.

[phylny]

15. OMG, Al Capone's safe!

I can't believe I watched that back in the day.

[hippywife]

18. And then, then...

I go back to the Latest Page, and whose name is at the very top but Geraldo's. Dumb fuck calling for a pardon. His ears must have been burning.

[phylny]

20. I remember watching Geraldo on the local news, and then there was his

exposé on Willowbrook. Who knew he'd become such a jackass?

[hippywife]

25. His careeer seemed to fall apart

after Capone's safe, as did his attitude apparently. I've never understood either him or John Stossel, another grade A asshole, and the path they decided to take. Probably the $$$.

[colorado_ufo]

38. If it's empty, just rebury it.

[hippywife]

52. JFC!

Have you no concept of the issues that would cause? You just don't go opening up fucking graves. Capisce?

[colorado_ufo]

56. Just kidding!

Sorry that I didn't put the sarcasm emoji.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

16. I thought she was cremated....

Could have sworn that was what the news was reporting at the time.

If she was cremated, why the casket?

[revmclaren]

19. And why all the pallbearers?

Something heavy in there.

(Putting on my tin foil hat)

Question the pallbearers about the weight of the casket...maybe scan the area with a Geiger counter.

Just thinking....

Tin foil hat off.

[Greybnk48]

23. Well my tinfoil hat is firmly on when it comes to this.

10 guys struggling to carry a coffin with a can of ashes in it?

[PlutosHeart]

29. That is odd.

It is not normal to have a full casket in a cremation situation. And if heavy that also does not make sense.
Suspect there is more in that box but who knows what really.
Maybe things he stole from the White House like busts, vases, and silverware?

[jmowreader]

42. No, I don't think so...

It's all a question of weight ratio...while five-ounce sparrows cannot carry one-pound cocoanuts even if they do grip them by the husk, neither should ten strong men struggle with seven pounds of ashes.

[Richard D]

47. I was a pallbearer

at a funeral for a cousin who weighed at least 350. It only took eight men to carry it and it wasn't too bad.

[jmowreader]

48. Six of us carried a 350-pound retired soldier to his final resting place, and we struggled a little

The Army doesn't allow more than six pallbearers in an official funeral.

[revmclaren]

45. Exactly.

[demmiblue]

17. No. n/t

[CincyDem]

21. What may (and I call that a long shot) have been there is long gone somewhere else by now.

Beyond the tax breaks associated with owning a cemetery in NJ, there are some other benefits, especially if you've planted a loved one (or former loved one) there.

1) you can dig there any time, day or night, and there's nobody to stop you, no explanations necessary.
2) if ever the authorities get an exhumation warrant...who do they serve it on? You. And you can fight it for years. And while you're fighting it...well, see point one.

It's like having a safe deposit box you can access any time 24/7, never have to sign in/out and never worry about someone else showing up to the bank with a surprise warrant that the bank complies with.

So...is there anything there ? Who the hell knows...personally, I doubt it. But...what makes it a good conspiracy theory is that it's a damn good plan. If (big IF) it turns out to be true, I'll bet there's a lot of mob bosses in jail who say "damn, I wish I thought of that".

Would I give Trump credit for thinking something like this up? Nope. But do I think Roy Cohn was smarmy enough (and smart enough) to think something like this up? Absolutely - and he was a Trump Whisperer for decades.

[randr]

22. I've suspected that from the gitgo

[Mr.Bill]

26. I still think if he has documents hidden,

his airplane would be a good spot. Parked at an airport it's probably more secure than any of his residences. And if he wants to make a quick run for it, it's already loaded with the documents, which are money wherever he goes to.

Then on the other hand, I doubt he's smart enough to think all that through. (See photo of documents stored in a fucking bathroom)

[Wounded Bear]

27. trump wouldn't stash docs in such an inaccessible place...

He wants to have them handy to show them off and deal them.

trump monetizes everything, you can't sell shit that is buried in your back yard.

[colorado_ufo]

35. Yes, you can. Piece by piece.

[Wounded Bear]

51. Even trump wouldn't get away with digging up his ex twice a month...

[onenote]

28. no.

[Hekate]

30. Yes, I do. Yes, he still had documents then. Yes, he transported some of the boxes to Bedminster.

He thinks and acts like a mob boss, according to more people than Jim Comey. IIRC, there’s mob boss legend that caskets can hold two bodies when one of them needs to discreetly disappear.

And my golly, once Ivana was cremated after so conveniently dying, it must have been a no-brainer to think of all the space available if they put her urn into a big casket.

[Demobrat]

33. No. Not in connection with this documents case.

He took those documents for bragging rights and for profit.

If there’s something in that casket that isn’t Ivana I would suspect it’s a who not a what.

[rubbersole]

39. Maybe one of those lizard/jfk jr people the Q people believe exist.

[ashredux]

41. Yes. She was cremated, and the coffin was big enough to hold an NBA player.

If you think that is beyond Trump to do, then you haven’t been paying attention

[sellitman]

43. There isn't anything I would for past him.

It isn't anything vile enough that would turn him off.

[TeamProg]

49. No, but I LIKE the DISTRACTION! Keep the GQP busy! nt

[Takket]

50. Geez people.........

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ivana-trump-cremated/

On Sept. 20, 2022, the word "cremated" began to trend on Twitter with an unfounded rumor about the death of Ivana Trump, former U.S. President Donald Trump's first ex-wife.

She died on July 14 and was buried six days later at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. According to The New York Times, the ground at the golf club was "consecrated so Ms. Trump could have a traditional Catholic burial."

One tweet asked, "If Ivana was cremated, what was in the coffin?" A different tweet included a picture of pallbearers carrying her casket and also claimed she had been cremated. We found no shortage of tweets that pushed this completely unsupported rumor that claimed she had been cremated.

"If Ivana was cremated, then what actually IS in her grave?," another user tweeted on July 31. "Anybody know the whereabouts of those 15 boxes of classified documents Trump stole?"

[Whiskeytide]

53. This is more than a little silly. If you ...

… want to hide something, bury it in a remote place. Not the middle of a golf club. Pall bearer is often more an honorary position than actual physical labor these days. I’ve been a pall bearer perhaps 10-12 times, and only once did we actually have to do any lifting beyond transfers between the dolly and vehicle. He apparently hid docs in his bathroom, FFS. Do you think an intellect that vapid would cook up a scheme to put something scandalous in his ex-wife’s casket?

[former9thward]

54. She was not cremated.

Another made-up internet rumor. People who were at the funeral told reporters what she was wearing.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/ivana-trump-cremated-conspiracy/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ivana-trump-cremated/

[miyazaki]

57. Well I would'nt give a sociopath the benefit of a doubt. nt

[krawhitham]

58. ground penetrating radar is good enough