okay -- who read the indictment?

[orleans]

just wondering.

i was married to the tv all evening and on the 20th round of lawrence (yeah, i'm exaggerating) i finally turned off the sound and read the 49 pages.

just wondering if anyone else managed to tear themselves away from the "breaking news" to read it.
or maybe people didn't feel the need after so much talkie talk on the subject.

naw... that won't happen
i'm betting du is gonna read it.

[PortTack]

1. I read about half of it...it's pretty damning, pictures and all

[AKwannabe]

2. Started. Not finished

I think all should read.
Written at under 8th grade levels

[Silver Gaia]

3. I read it, or at least skimmed it,

all the way to the end.

[Blue Owl]

6. Same here

Hoping to reread it more closely over the weekend….

[Silver Gaia]

7. Yup. Same!

[intrepidity]

4. For those who'd rather listen

The Bulwark Podcast did a reading of the whole thing.

[Backseat Driver]

5. On the agenda for tomorrow; just found a link to download. n/t

[MLAA]

8. I read it.

[GoodRaisin]

9. I read it. Took about an hour.

Got to say there were parts I found myself chuckling as I read it, it’s so stupid. It all seems absurd that an American President would do these things, and for what? But he did it. Like he forged a chain for himself with all these boxes, carrying them from room to room, lying about them to the Feds, carrying some of it on trips, bragging to visitors about having it.

I think it shows he has serious hardening of his arteries. He’s lost it. His best defense may be mental illness.

Hard to tell how many of our foreign adversaries got their hands on it.

[orleans]

10. i want to say he's a maniacal fuck

made me think of a squirrel hiding, stashing nuts

shuffling them around, going thru those boxes, taking some with him when he goes north for the summer

i don't understand why they didn't look at bedminster too

[GoodRaisin]

12. I think they need to go back to Bedminster and make one

more sweep for documents there too, since the indictment included him showing documents to others while he was there.

Reading the indictment it really jumps out how bizarre it is. Your squirrel analogy fits.

[TheSocialDem]

11. Read it minutes after it was released

Interesting some of the slightly different takes pundits have to what I thought.

For instance, the spilled box of documents - nobody is speculating why or who spilled it. Just so much unknown about who was able to get a look/pic of any of these docs since they’ve been at maralardo

[Scrivener7]

32. What are you thinking? A box might look like that if someone wanted to see

all its contents fast.

Though the presence of the edge of the top secret document showing pretty prominently suggests it just fell over. I'd assume a bad actor would have taken that.

[ExWhoDoesntCare]

45. I don't think it's spilled

It looks like a box some agent was digging through. The documents laid out are evidentiary, and the "spilled" box is simply there because an agent had to get out of the way for the crime scene photographer to get in some snaps.

Happens quite often with crime scene searches.

[Inkey]

14. Down loaded the PDF earlier in the day

Read it a couple times and listened to the
analysis on TV. Also checked the blogs for reactions.
It does seem this will stick with people's opinion
of 45's downfall. I only hope he finally goes away.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

15. I read/skimmed it

It is a well done indictment

[Frasier Balzov]

17. Via the New York Times

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/trump-indictment-document/967835b8a14a6b03/full.pdf

[chowder66]

18. I read it and it made me sick to my stomach. Not kidding. My stomach was in knots.

I'm so angry that there are so many fellow citizens who elected him and think this is okay or didn't think something like this would happen. They don't care that, by proxy, they helped endanger our security and the people in our security services.

It's a big circle-jerk of nefarious Americans and Trump is their manifestation of that.

[Hekate]

19. I downloaded from the Politico link as soon as it was posted here, in other words, ASAP

Skimmed the first bit, but was too glued to MSNBC all day to read it. Mañana.

[Grown2Hate]

20. Something "petty" I noticed...

I'm on paragraph 58, C.

"Happy Memorial Day!" from the female tRump (Melanoma?).

Tone deaf-ass bullshit even when they don't know they're on camera.

[Skittles]

22. pet peeve of mine

"Happy Memorial Day"

it is entirely inappropriate

there's nothing wrong with having fun on a three day weekend, that is what freedom is all about ....but the OCCASION is a solemn one and NO ONE should forget the sacrifices made....

[Grown2Hate]

24. Exactly.

That stuck out to me in the reading like a sore thumb.

Definitely inappropriate, but simultaneously SO on brand for this fucked up family that wouldn't recognize sacrifice if it bit them on the genitalia.

[Skittles]

26. Trump skipped a memorial ceremony because he was afraid his hair would get wet

he's a real piece of shit

[no_hypocrisy]

27. Must run in the family. TFG on Twitter wished everyone a "Happy Good Friday".

Some Christian . . . . .

[mercuryblues]

39. Same here

The female trump, who couldn't be bothered to decorate for "fucking" Christmas, basically wishing people a happy dead soldier day.

[electric_blue68]

21. Over the weekend 👍 especially since Mr Smith asked us to

He and his team worked hard on this.

[DrivingOnThe Left]

23. Read it last night

I just find it jaw-dropping that documents relating to the highest levels of national security could have been in boxes on a stage in a ballroom, presumably where hundreds of people passed through daily.

[grantcart]

25. fascinating

Guessing it will be standard fare for law books on how to document criminal indictments in the future

[phylny]

29. I read it.

The first thing that struck me was, man, that's a LOT of writing people had to do.

The second thing is, man, this was REALLY well done and well researched.

The third thing is, MFer had better be found guilty.

[Scrivener7]

30. I read it. It's a quick, easy read. Not legalese. It's jaw-dropping.

And there's documented proof and documented witnesses to every charge.

For the first time ever, I'll say this: he's toast. (Unless Aileen is unchecked in her assholery.)

[WiVoter]

31. I'm Printing It Off Right Now

Looking forward to reading it!

[Scrivener7]

33. Here's a link DUer IndyKatie gifted us to the annoted NYT copy. You owe it to yourself

to read it. It's astonishing.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17989781

[MineralMan]

34. I did.

[brooklynite]

35. I read the indictment and DIDN'T glue myself to the TV.

[Talitha]

36. I read it last night. Fairly quick read for being 49 pages.

As Lawrence O'Donnell said, there's lots of 'white space' in it.

[GoCubsGo]

37. I listened while Hal Sparks read it yesterday.

Does that count?

[RussBLib]

38. It's a pretty quick read

Unlike the Jan 6 congressional summation, which ran to 800pp I think.

And it's simple. Obstruction of Justice by hiding "Trump boxes" before they could be searched for missing classified docs.

Everyone should read it, especially Republicans. I think it took me about 20 minutes.

[lees1975]

40. Getting there,

about halfway through. All I can say is wow. How bad is it that enough Americans voted for this guy to elect him President?

[allegorical oracle]

41. Just finished. Most incriminating section, imo, is where boxes are moved behind the back of

Attorney 1, so he believes, presumably, that he's reviewed all the boxes for classified items that must be turned over to the FBI and NARA. But he didn't, again, presumably. That resulted in Atty 3, at atty 1's request, falsely certifying that the documents had been properly identified and surrendered.

That's unmitigated proof that djt willfully broke the law(s).

[Kid Berwyn]

42. The individual documents read like a wedding registry for spies.

A sampler:

"Intelligence briefing related to foreign countries"

"Military capabilities of a foreign country"

"Concerning communications with the leader of a foreign country"

"Concerning military capabilities of a foreign country and the United States"

The indictment makes clear:

Top Secret -- ...exceptionally grave damage to national security...
Secret -- ...serious damage...
Classsified -- ...damage...

Take-away after reading: Trump is a traitor.

[liberal_mama]

43. I didn't read it yet. I was reading The Catcher in the Rye, so maybe I will read it when I'm done

with the book. I saw some of the details on the news and I really don't need to read the indictment to know how depraved Trump is. But it might be entertaining reading.

[Scottie Mom]

44. Read all of it.

Breezes through some of the proforma language and concentrated on the averments.

IMO: tfg is fucked.

IMO: His co-conspirator is gonna turn state's evidence and tfg will be mega-fucked.

[yardwork]

46. I read it.

[kentuck]

47. I read it carefully.

If the law is still worth anything, his goose will be cooked.

But the question that lingers, does the law even matter?