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mopinko

(73,726 posts)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:55 AM Jun 2023

so, he was just skimmin this shit for the whole 4 years?

cheato is a known packrat and souvenir collector. i got the distinct impression reading the indictment that he had been just chucking shiny things into boxes in the white house to take w him from day 1. like a deranged squirrel in a nut warehouse.

i’m dyin to know what else was in those boxes. it wasnt just papers. does he have silverware and linens? art?

srsly, i know it’s his wh, but how the hell was he allowed go stack up DOZENS of boxes in plain sight, and no one blew the whistle?
we know he had ppl tasked to pick stuff out of trash cans and tape together torn up docs. ppl knew.

he is so fucking broken in the head.

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so, he was just skimmin this shit for the whole 4 years? (Original Post) mopinko Jun 2023 OP
It's like the most stomach-churning Hoarders episode ever nt Shermann Jun 2023 #1
When Trump entered the WH, he was like a kid in a candy shop. Irish_Dem Jun 2023 #2
how much of a kid he is is just... mopinko Jun 2023 #3
A 5 y/o who is obsessed with money, fame and power. Irish_Dem Jun 2023 #5
Actually, Trump is more like a typical 4-year-old. raging moderate Jun 2023 #25
+1 Irish_Dem Jun 2023 #29
In the indictment, one of his employees is quoted as calling them the "beautiful mind paper boxes." Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #4
i hope he pleads diminished capacity. mopinko Jun 2023 #6
Tell a person their bigotry is acceptable and they'll follow you everywhere. Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #11
dissect him brain when he dies. mopinko Jun 2023 #37
john kelly- u should be court martialed. mopinko Jun 2023 #7
When I saw how many boxes there were, I wondered Tanuki Jun 2023 #8
when do they search the rest of the properties? mopinko Jun 2023 #10
Yes. There's proof in the indictment there are documents in Bedminster. Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #13
yeah, that's the real bottom line. what will it take to get that trust back? mopinko Jun 2023 #14
and yes, dig up that grave. mopinko Jun 2023 #15
Right? I noticed that too. Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #16
everybody did. mopinko Jun 2023 #19
well he KNEW he wasn't a real PRESIDENT Skittles Jun 2023 #9
👇👇👇👁️👁️ Goonch Jun 2023 #12
He was probably giving out free samples the whole time dalton99a Jun 2023 #17
no doubt. mopinko Jun 2023 #18
Definitely not Rebl2 Jun 2023 #34
I believe that. If it benefitted him to give/sell secrets he would do it. It's not like wiggs Jun 2023 #20
probably wont be known, either. mopinko Jun 2023 #23
Very much agree. nt wiggs Jun 2023 #24
Pack rat, souvenier collector AND greedy extortionist/blackmailer with a huge ego. GoCubsGo Jun 2023 #21
not meant as an excuse. evidence of a pattern is all i'm sayin. mopinko Jun 2023 #22
Even if he wasn't in debt, he envisioned rising to the very top of the world's oligarch wiggs Jun 2023 #27
..to my point, former Trump attorney says look at Saudis... wiggs Jun 2023 #32
"...and no one blew the whistle" kentuck Jun 2023 #26
+1 2naSalit Jun 2023 #28
Been saying that since Day1 catrose Jun 2023 #44
Seems like calling him a pack rat and souvenir collector diminishes the gravity of what he was doing Bristlecone Jun 2023 #30
it's not an excuse- it's a pattern of behavior. mopinko Jun 2023 #33
You're surprised that he took stuff that wasn't his? lol Niagara Jun 2023 #31
no, i'm surprised no one stopped him. mopinko Jun 2023 #35
The people who told him "no" were promptly fired. Niagara Jun 2023 #38
so once he'd been fired, what stopped him? mopinko Jun 2023 #41
There was a quite a few staff that were fired or that had resigned Niagara Jun 2023 #43
Good damn point. Brenda Jun 2023 #39
He doesn't even read! WH employees said so. live love laugh Jun 2023 #36
except he rly is insane. mopinko Jun 2023 #42
Kushner needed docs to get his 2billion from the bonesaw prince JanMichael Jun 2023 #40

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
2. When Trump entered the WH, he was like a kid in a candy shop.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:00 AM
Jun 2023

A career criminal had hit the ultimate jackpot.

raging moderate

(4,624 posts)
25. Actually, Trump is more like a typical 4-year-old.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:53 AM
Jun 2023

Last edited Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:28 AM - Edit history (2)

I worked with young children for many years. With a group of 5-year-olds, I sometimes felt like a revered professor as they paid careful attention to me, nodding in thoughtful agreement. It was the 4-year-olds who careened around the room, intoxicated by their newfound physical abilities and not-yet-understood new perceptions.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
4. In the indictment, one of his employees is quoted as calling them the "beautiful mind paper boxes."
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:02 AM
Jun 2023

If the whole of the indictment wasn't so horrifying, that would have cracked me up. I love that Smith dropped that in there.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
6. i hope he pleads diminished capacity.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:05 AM
Jun 2023

improbable, but imho, a slam dunk. his med records at reed have everything needed.
it disturbs me that so many dont see that he’s insane. i rly want it laid out. at his autopsy, if not before.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
11. Tell a person their bigotry is acceptable and they'll follow you everywhere.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:13 AM
Jun 2023

No matter who you are and what you do.

Such a sad lesson we have had to learn (again) about our fellow Americans.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
37. dissect him brain when he dies.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:55 AM
Jun 2023

i rly want everyone to know they’ve been following a mad man.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
7. john kelly- u should be court martialed.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:06 AM
Jun 2023

this had to be obvious to everyone in that bldg.

Tanuki

(16,448 posts)
8. When I saw how many boxes there were, I wondered
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:07 AM
Jun 2023

if he had been casually taking a box or two each time he flew down for his "golf weekends" over the four years he was in office.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
13. Yes. There's proof in the indictment there are documents in Bedminster.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:15 AM
Jun 2023

As we've been saying all along.

Makes me take the "Ivana's grave as storage" theory a little more seriously. I wouldn't put anything past that monster.

I keep coming back to the fact that he is putting people's lives at risk. And any country that shares secrets with us going forward is a fool.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
14. yeah, that's the real bottom line. what will it take to get that trust back?
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:18 AM
Jun 2023

i sincerely hope they track down every bit of this shit, and make the butcher’s bill as public as possible.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
15. and yes, dig up that grave.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:21 AM
Jun 2023

10 pall bearers buckling at the knees when she’d been cremated….
even if she was in there, she wasnt 100 lb soaking wet.

Skittles

(171,715 posts)
9. well he KNEW he wasn't a real PRESIDENT
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:07 AM
Jun 2023

he must have found the grifting opportunities ENDLESS when he got the title though

FUCK EVERYONE FUCKING STUPID ENOUGH TO VOTE FOR THAT TRAITOROUS PIECE OF SHIT, THEY DISGRACED AMERICA

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
20. I believe that. If it benefitted him to give/sell secrets he would do it. It's not like
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:36 AM
Jun 2023

rules really applied to him, and I don't believe he had rule breaking boundaries. They were his...couldn't he do with them what he wanted?

After all, he could shoot someone on....

The indictment may be adequate for prosecutors' purposes. I believe the truth is much worse than publicly known. We know who we're dealing with.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
23. probably wont be known, either.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:47 AM
Jun 2023

Last edited Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:55 AM - Edit history (1)

the gravest sins wont be made public cuz they’re too secret.

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
21. Pack rat, souvenier collector AND greedy extortionist/blackmailer with a huge ego.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:40 AM
Jun 2023

I have no doubt he started his collection on Day One. And, chalking things up to him being a pack rat only minimizes the gravity of what he did. Sure, he took some of that stuff so he could show it off to his sycophants. However, he has always been big on extortion and blackmail, and now he had the entire Federal Government at his grubby fingertips. Of course, he was going to start going through government documents. President Zelenskyy and Lindsey Graham likely are just the very tip of his extortion/blackmail schemes.

Let's also not forget that he's up to his eyeballs in debt, much of it to shady foreign entities like Putin and the Saudis. He is beholden to them in more ways than one. I'm sure he took a bunch of stuff to sell in order to pay off his debts.

No one blew the whistle on him, because they knew he could ruin them. Or, worse. I'm sure a fair number of them were in on it all, too. I don't think Walt Nauta will be the only one charged before this is all over.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
22. not meant as an excuse. evidence of a pattern is all i'm sayin.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:46 AM
Jun 2023

and yeah, blackmail is at the heart of his power and always was. so def on the lookout for any good kompromat.
and w that as the basis of your power, u sure can go far.

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
27. Even if he wasn't in debt, he envisioned rising to the very top of the world's oligarch
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:56 AM
Jun 2023

ladder, via realignment of the world order and getting into bed with SA, Russia, Qatar, Turkey, Netanyahu, and more. Corrupt leaders who can do things for him that western democracies and NATO cannot.

kentuck

(115,406 posts)
26. "...and no one blew the whistle"
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:53 AM
Jun 2023

I think that is what is most shocking to me. The number of people that could have said something or done something but did nothing and said nothing.

Bristlecone

(11,111 posts)
30. Seems like calling him a pack rat and souvenir collector diminishes the gravity of what he was doing
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:54 AM
Jun 2023

And I’m not chastising this Op specifically, as I have heard that a few times over the course of this ordeal. Even from Trump, which tells me all I need to know. He would never in a million years state that he is “just a regular guy, like you and me” unless it serves his purposes or gets him out of a jam. It gives him an excuse and makes it seem like he just likes mementos. Haphazard and misguided perhaps, but “a harmless mistake for the sentimental fool he is.”

That’s narrative and not what this is about that at all.

He is a criminal that took these things for gain. Power and/or money; not to frame and put on the wall to remember the good times he’s had.

He is indeed 100 percent broken in the head.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
33. it's not an excuse- it's a pattern of behavior.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:52 AM
Jun 2023

and this post is an example of why his insanity isnt acknowledged- ppl think it’s some kind of excuse. the opposite is true, imho.
it says, to me, he has no moral compass, only pathologies that he will never overcome.
it was always absurd to think he would rise to the office in the slightest way.
it was absurd to give him the benefit of the doubt about a damn thing. anything.
it was absurd to eve posit that he might act like a normal human.

it’s absurd to ask what he was thinking. he wasnt. he was acting out his own twisted world view and could never have been anything but the asshole crook he is.

Niagara

(11,851 posts)
31. You're surprised that he took stuff that wasn't his? lol
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:04 AM
Jun 2023

He's been a master of skimming items and cheating people for years.


You're sentence perfectly sums it up.

like a deranged squirrel in a nut warehouse.

Niagara

(11,851 posts)
38. The people who told him "no" were promptly fired.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 12:19 PM
Jun 2023

John Kelly was fired in July of 2018.

mopinko

(73,726 posts)
41. so once he'd been fired, what stopped him?
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 01:01 PM
Jun 2023

this was apparently happening in plain view the whole 4 yrs.

Niagara

(11,851 posts)
43. There was a quite a few staff that were fired or that had resigned
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 02:39 PM
Jun 2023

during tRumps 4 years of White House crime sprees. There was an abundance of people that could have pointed it out at any given time. There were certainly plenty of leaks coming from the WH during this time. I don't know what goes through other people's heads, so I don't have the answer to your question.



This POS has been breaking laws since at least 1973, or at least that's when the Department of Justice took him to court for violating the Civil Rights Act.

Brenda

(2,054 posts)
39. Good damn point.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 12:30 PM
Jun 2023

What Trump revealed most to me is how fucked up a whole lot and I mean tens of MILLIONS of Americans there are living around me.

From the top politicos, military men, news people and rich fucks who just wanted (more) power and celebrity to the poorest meth-heads in the swamps of Florida and Primitive Baptists from Alabama to Ohio.

The USA has become an insane asylum.


live love laugh

(16,383 posts)
36. He doesn't even read! WH employees said so.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:53 AM
Jun 2023

But he does know how to avoid culpability.

I see him going out like that mobster Vince Gigante feigned insanity and walked down the street in a robe and house shoes muttering to himself.

JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
40. Kushner needed docs to get his 2billion from the bonesaw prince
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 12:35 PM
Jun 2023

You have to start from day one to get bonesaw to give your dark world ken doll son in law money money.

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