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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsso, he was just skimmin this shit for the whole 4 years?
cheato is a known packrat and souvenir collector. i got the distinct impression reading the indictment that he had been just chucking shiny things into boxes in the white house to take w him from day 1. like a deranged squirrel in a nut warehouse.
im dyin to know what else was in those boxes. it wasnt just papers. does he have silverware and linens? art?
srsly, i know its his wh, but how the hell was he allowed go stack up DOZENS of boxes in plain sight, and no one blew the whistle?
we know he had ppl tasked to pick stuff out of trash cans and tape together torn up docs. ppl knew.
he is so fucking broken in the head.
Shermann
(9,062 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,266 posts)A career criminal had hit the ultimate jackpot.
mopinko
(73,726 posts)no more sense than a 5 yo.
Irish_Dem
(81,266 posts)raging moderate
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I worked with young children for many years. With a group of 5-year-olds, I sometimes felt like a revered professor as they paid careful attention to me, nodding in thoughtful agreement. It was the 4-year-olds who careened around the room, intoxicated by their newfound physical abilities and not-yet-understood new perceptions.
Irish_Dem
(81,266 posts)Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)If the whole of the indictment wasn't so horrifying, that would have cracked me up. I love that Smith dropped that in there.
mopinko
(73,726 posts)improbable, but imho, a slam dunk. his med records at reed have everything needed.
it disturbs me that so many dont see that hes insane. i rly want it laid out. at his autopsy, if not before.
Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)No matter who you are and what you do.
Such a sad lesson we have had to learn (again) about our fellow Americans.
mopinko
(73,726 posts)i rly want everyone to know theyve been following a mad man.
mopinko
(73,726 posts)this had to be obvious to everyone in that bldg.
Tanuki
(16,448 posts)if he had been casually taking a box or two each time he flew down for his "golf weekends" over the four years he was in office.
mopinko
(73,726 posts)i bet youre right.
Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)As we've been saying all along.
Makes me take the "Ivana's grave as storage" theory a little more seriously. I wouldn't put anything past that monster.
I keep coming back to the fact that he is putting people's lives at risk. And any country that shares secrets with us going forward is a fool.
mopinko
(73,726 posts)i sincerely hope they track down every bit of this shit, and make the butchers bill as public as possible.
mopinko
(73,726 posts)10 pall bearers buckling at the knees when shed been cremated
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even if she was in there, she wasnt 100 lb soaking wet.
Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)mopinko
(73,726 posts)its comes up every other day on twitter.
Skittles
(171,715 posts)he must have found the grifting opportunities ENDLESS when he got the title though
FUCK EVERYONE FUCKING STUPID ENOUGH TO VOTE FOR THAT TRAITOROUS PIECE OF SHIT, THEY DISGRACED AMERICA
Goonch
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dalton99a
(94,120 posts)mopinko
(73,726 posts)or not so free samples.
Rebl2
(17,742 posts)free samples. You want a peak, you gotta pay.
wiggs
(8,812 posts)rules really applied to him, and I don't believe he had rule breaking boundaries. They were his...couldn't he do with them what he wanted?
After all, he could shoot someone on....
The indictment may be adequate for prosecutors' purposes. I believe the truth is much worse than publicly known. We know who we're dealing with.
mopinko
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the gravest sins wont be made public cuz theyre too secret.
wiggs
(8,812 posts)GoCubsGo
(34,914 posts)I have no doubt he started his collection on Day One. And, chalking things up to him being a pack rat only minimizes the gravity of what he did. Sure, he took some of that stuff so he could show it off to his sycophants. However, he has always been big on extortion and blackmail, and now he had the entire Federal Government at his grubby fingertips. Of course, he was going to start going through government documents. President Zelenskyy and Lindsey Graham likely are just the very tip of his extortion/blackmail schemes.
Let's also not forget that he's up to his eyeballs in debt, much of it to shady foreign entities like Putin and the Saudis. He is beholden to them in more ways than one. I'm sure he took a bunch of stuff to sell in order to pay off his debts.
No one blew the whistle on him, because they knew he could ruin them. Or, worse. I'm sure a fair number of them were in on it all, too. I don't think Walt Nauta will be the only one charged before this is all over.
mopinko
(73,726 posts)and yeah, blackmail is at the heart of his power and always was. so def on the lookout for any good kompromat.
and w that as the basis of your power, u sure can go far.
wiggs
(8,812 posts)ladder, via realignment of the world order and getting into bed with SA, Russia, Qatar, Turkey, Netanyahu, and more. Corrupt leaders who can do things for him that western democracies and NATO cannot.
wiggs
(8,812 posts)kentuck
(115,406 posts)I think that is what is most shocking to me. The number of people that could have said something or done something but did nothing and said nothing.
catrose
(5,365 posts)Really? No one could speak up
Bristlecone
(11,111 posts)And Im not chastising this Op specifically, as I have heard that a few times over the course of this ordeal. Even from Trump, which tells me all I need to know. He would never in a million years state that he is just a regular guy, like you and me unless it serves his purposes or gets him out of a jam. It gives him an excuse and makes it seem like he just likes mementos. Haphazard and misguided perhaps, but a harmless mistake for the sentimental fool he is.
Thats narrative and not what this is about that at all.
He is a criminal that took these things for gain. Power and/or money; not to frame and put on the wall to remember the good times hes had.
He is indeed 100 percent broken in the head.
mopinko
(73,726 posts)and this post is an example of why his insanity isnt acknowledged- ppl think its some kind of excuse. the opposite is true, imho.
it says, to me, he has no moral compass, only pathologies that he will never overcome.
it was always absurd to think he would rise to the office in the slightest way.
it was absurd to give him the benefit of the doubt about a damn thing. anything.
it was absurd to eve posit that he might act like a normal human.
its absurd to ask what he was thinking. he wasnt. he was acting out his own twisted world view and could never have been anything but the asshole crook he is.
Niagara
(11,851 posts)He's been a master of skimming items and cheating people for years.
You're sentence perfectly sums it up.
mopinko
(73,726 posts)im lookin at u john kelly.
Niagara
(11,851 posts)John Kelly was fired in July of 2018.
mopinko
(73,726 posts)this was apparently happening in plain view the whole 4 yrs.
Niagara
(11,851 posts)during tRumps 4 years of White House crime sprees. There was an abundance of people that could have pointed it out at any given time. There were certainly plenty of leaks coming from the WH during this time. I don't know what goes through other people's heads, so I don't have the answer to your question.
This POS has been breaking laws since at least 1973, or at least that's when the Department of Justice took him to court for violating the Civil Rights Act.
Brenda
(2,054 posts)What Trump revealed most to me is how fucked up a whole lot and I mean tens of MILLIONS of Americans there are living around me.
From the top politicos, military men, news people and rich fucks who just wanted (more) power and celebrity to the poorest meth-heads in the swamps of Florida and Primitive Baptists from Alabama to Ohio.
The USA has become an insane asylum.
live love laugh
(16,383 posts)But he does know how to avoid culpability.
I see him going out like that mobster Vince Gigante feigned insanity and walked down the street in a robe and house shoes muttering to himself.
mopinko
(73,726 posts)JanMichael
(25,725 posts)You have to start from day one to get bonesaw to give your dark world ken doll son in law money money.