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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWould you accept this Trump plea deal?
He agrees to sit down without an attorney and truthfully answer any and all questions by the DOJ to anything that theyd like to ask him starting in 2015 when he started campaigning until the present.
Any perceived dodging of ANY questions nullifies the deal.
In exchange, all federal charges are dropped. New York and Georgia agrees to do the same.
Trump is stripped of his American citizenship, passport seized, and he is given a one way airline ticket to either Russia, North Korea, or Saudi Arabia. He is barred from life from ever visiting any American state or territory or he will be arrested and jailed.
Walleye
(44,805 posts)Funtatlaguy
(11,878 posts)LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)Although if it were possible for him to tell the truth, I would accept the deal to avoid the long taxpayer litigation.
However, the RW nut jobs would have their living martyr and the espionage would continue. So no deal like this would ever be possible for either side.
Only, too, if Russia housed him in a very tall building with large very loose windows.
dem4decades
(14,057 posts)Funtatlaguy
(11,878 posts)Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)Funtatlaguy
(11,878 posts)Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)And I'm really not a violent person.
But damn, that indictment. What a stunted, entitled, stupid piece of shit he is. And he's messing with other people's lives, the creepy fuckhead.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Psychopaths are notorious for being able to pass them, because they do not have the physical responses to lying that normal people do.
It's also beyond easy for normal people to pass them: Put a tack inside your shoe, and tap it when you're telling the truth. You'll get the same response to that as for a lie.
Criminals have known all of this for ages--and courts caught up to that not long after.
That's why polygraphs aren't used anymore. Everyone knows they're not reliable.
Scrivener7
(59,522 posts)walkingman
(10,863 posts)waddirum
(1,005 posts)I want a full televised trial with all of the evidence presented. And I want a prison sentence to be served in an American prison.
Rhiannon12866
(255,525 posts)They were saying that this is important enough to the country that the trial needs to be televised.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)I want him humiliated before the entire world.
A narcissist like him getting hounded in a court of law would have him resort to what all narcissists do when someone attacks their precious self-image often enough and without mercy: Narcissistic rage. It will be really ugly when he lets loose the full extent of the rage and hate boiling inside him.
He will destroy himself, before he realizes what he's done.
Mike Nelson
(10,943 posts)... I don't think he's capable of the "truthful" part. I would skip to the ending, however. I don't care if he lives like a king in Saudi Arabia, as long as we are rid of him.
LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)Dont go away mad. Dont go away sad. Just go away.
Not possible but
..
Funtatlaguy
(11,878 posts)LakeArenal
(29,949 posts)dem4decades
(14,057 posts)Tetrachloride
(9,624 posts)in documents case.
then in Jan 6 event, some Congress people
are guilty
and Jared
spanone
(141,609 posts)doc03
(39,086 posts)firing squad.
GoCubsGo
(34,914 posts)That deal would just be "Nixon Pardon, The Sequel." Unless he faces actual punishment, someone else will do this again, knowing that they can go live elsewhere, without seeing any prison time. Fuck no.
DEbluedude
(853 posts)Place the fucker in a jail cell. Naked. With only a belt and shoestrings.
Alpeduez21
(2,053 posts)The feds can't tell states what to do.
The US can't force a non citizen into another country (if they want him, pretty sure he has outlived his usefulness as nothing more than a disruptor)
I rather relish the thought of him sitting in a jail with crappy sheets, clothes and no hair product. The germs and bad food would be a real schadenfreude scenario.
I doubt he will spend a day in jail no matter the outcome, though. Just no way a former US President with all the security details will go to jail is my belief.
Funtatlaguy
(11,878 posts)FBaggins
(28,706 posts)There isnt anyone with the power to bind prosecutors in multiple states
and that imaginary person wouldnt have the power to strip him of his citizenship anyway.
Im also not sure why he would take the deal. He is unlikely to face any punishment that would make this deal look preferable
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)Emile
(42,289 posts)prove his innocence.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)That's federal law.
He can seek delays, and probably will, he may even win a few, but the clock is always resets to 70 days once the delay ends, no matter what.
Mr. Ected
(9,714 posts)For no time served, just a disqualification from ever holding office again.
TBH, I think Americans want a lot more than that. I think the vast majority of us want to see him led off to prison.
The next time I want to see him is in a video shot of a hearse leaving said prison.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)See his image or hear his horrid voice again. Ever.
He needs to be put in prison for the rest of his miserable fucking life for all the death and destruction he has brought upon us all.
Fuck him, like KO said, I'm disappointed this isn't a capital crime.
Mr. Ected
(9,714 posts)Fuck every one of them, too. They're basically holding the rest of us hostage with their scorched Earth attitude and an utter lack of knowledge fueling their opinions. They are mutineers, confederates, anti-democratic whining fuckwads that should be relegated to the trash heap of our history.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)snowybirdie
(6,687 posts)None of this is Constitutional and we are a nation of laws. No matter what he did! Protection for us all needs to be in place.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)2naSalit
(102,793 posts)There is no plea deal he can take that would be acceptable, period.
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)"'E was a cruel man, but fair."
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)I'd be fine with that except he would need to be gagged as well. I don't want to be forced to hear from him at all. He needs to be sanctioned. No communication or profiting off US citizens.
genxlib
(6,136 posts)I know those countries are evil and all but sending them that guy is just too cruel.
Celerity
(54,407 posts)US citizenship is if they used fraud to obtain it (like Melania did, I still want her stripped and deported, along with her chain-migrated family) in the first lace. Trump did not, he was born in the US to 2 US citizen parents.
He could voluntarily renounce, but I do not see him ever doing that, even if offered your deal. He fully thinks he is going to become the next POTUS.
Tarc
(10,601 posts)"Trump Towers, St. Petersburg" would be like a Mecca for rural white people, they'd feel they need to visit at least once in their lifetime.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Even on a holiday?
Do not tempt me, Frodo!
Chainfire
(17,757 posts)ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Or if that's not feasible then the equivalent of this:
gibraltar72
(7,629 posts)lark
(26,081 posts)He must be convicted - that is the only way to even start to restore our nation.