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Joinfortmill

(21,165 posts)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:18 AM Jun 2023

Trump Judge Aileen Cannon Is A Hack... But Maybe Also A Cowardly Hack?

https://abovethelaw.com/2023/06/trump-judge-aileen-cannon-is-a-hack-but-maybe-also-a-cowardly-hack/

'Judge Cannon made herself a legal laughingstock earlier in this investigation by inserting herself into the fight over the search warrant that turned up all these top secret documents lounging by the Mar-a-Lago pool. Cannon lacked any jurisdiction to embark on a civil challenge as an endrun around a criminal investigation, a lesson she learned the hard way when an all-conservative panel of the Eleventh Circuit excoriated her for mucking up remedial procedure. But up until the appellate court put a stop to her nonsense, Judge Cannon seemed content to throw caution and the rule of law to the wind to give Trump’s lawyers whatever they wanted.

How bad could it get if Judge Cannon remains on this case? Well…Rule 29 is what used to be known as a directed verdict and authorizes a judge to acquit the defendant regardless of jury’s verdict. In theory, a faulty indictment or a government case long on bluster and light on law, could sway a jury to find guilt where the law can’t support it. If the judge puts off this motion until after a guilty verdict, the government can appeal to get the guilty verdict affirmed. If the judge issues this ruling before a verdict, as Professor Kerr notes, “Double jeopardy attaches and the case ends, for those wondering.”...So that’s bad.

But… would she actually do that?...while Judge Cannon is definitely cut from the bad faith cloth, when faced with a Rule 29 nuclear option, it’s hard to imagine she’d turn the key...Because she’s proven herself… a bit of a scaredy-cat. Even at the height of her shenanigans on behalf of the Trump cause, when she asserted (wrongly, it turns out) that she had authority over the Trump warrant, she still seemed to hope that the much more experienced and competent special master, Senior Judge Raymond Dearie, would handle it...We never have to know thanks to the Eleventh Circuit, but it seems likely Cannon would’ve thrown up her arms and told MAGAworld that she tried...After suffering a brutal benchslapping, normal judges exercise a lot more caution when the matter comes back around...Now… the stakes are far too high to bank on her own fear of joining history for the wrong reasons. The Department of Justice should ask her to recuse herself from the case given her prior role and, in the alternative, bump that motion up to her avowed non-fans on the Eleventh Circuit...'




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Trump Judge Aileen Cannon Is A Hack... But Maybe Also A Cowardly Hack? (Original Post) Joinfortmill Jun 2023 OP
That crazy cultist has no business being a judge. dalton99a Jun 2023 #1
+1 2naSalit Jun 2023 #10
Oh boy. That second paragraph is what I was afraid of. Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #2
She may view herself as the firewall protecting Trump, and willing to take the heat for his freedom. TheBlackAdder Jun 2023 #21
She was apparently legitimately chosen by the electronic Deminpenn Jun 2023 #3
Yeah, OK, gab13by13 Jun 2023 #4
She was randomly chosen once Deminpenn Jun 2023 #7
Who is present for the lottery? gab13by13 Jun 2023 #12
The Trump lawyers must know something about that random pick would be in their favor. LiberalFighter Jun 2023 #19
Read the last page of the indictment Deminpenn Jun 2023 #23
Say if she were to recuse on Monday... PuraVidaDreamin Jun 2023 #5
She isn't doing the Tuesday arraignment gab13by13 Jun 2023 #9
A hack and a Right wing nut job, not a good combo BigmanPigman Jun 2023 #6
Apparently the image in the tweet is not her. BootinUp Jun 2023 #14
Thank you, I'll delete it. BigmanPigman Jun 2023 #15
I would bet dollars to donuts that Trump lawyers are secretly conspiring with her... honest.abe Jun 2023 #8
Or someone like... 2naSalit Jun 2023 #13
She's also in the middle of DeSantis country. tinrobot Jun 2023 #20
Conservatives are cowards at heart RAB910 Jun 2023 #11
What exactly are her duties as the fed judge overseeing this case? PuraVidaDreamin Jun 2023 #16
Judicial appointments by the RePugs are going to haunt us for decades. NoMoreRepugs Jun 2023 #17
Yes, thank you "Hillary is corrupt" voters in 2016. honest.abe Jun 2023 #22
Aileen, wants her Mercedes peppertree Jun 2023 #18
Of course she is. Trump attracts hacks and low lifes. Initech Jun 2023 #24

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
10. +1
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:56 AM
Jun 2023

She's exposed her bias, she needs to pass on hearing this case. It's far too important for a fucking inexperienced novice for krissakes.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
2. Oh boy. That second paragraph is what I was afraid of.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:25 AM
Jun 2023

And how sad that she is just one of the dozens of flying monkeys he seeded into high court positions.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
21. She may view herself as the firewall protecting Trump, and willing to take the heat for his freedom.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:36 AM
Jun 2023

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
3. She was apparently legitimately chosen by the electronic
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:28 AM
Jun 2023

wheel of judges. But perhaps the 11th Circuit will remove her if for no other reason than to lessen their own workload that would come with having to hear the appeals of her nonsensical rulings.

gab13by13

(32,321 posts)
4. Yeah, OK,
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:33 AM
Jun 2023

She was randomly chosen twice, she was 1 of 15 judges, what are the odds of that happening?

She has no business presiding over the case. She was reprimanded by the Appeals Court judges for interfering in an FBI search warrant.

If she does not recuse herself then DOJ needs to request that she recuse herself.

If she is the judge then I guarantee that a Trump trial will not happen until after the election.

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
7. She was randomly chosen once
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:45 AM
Jun 2023

The first time Trump's lawyers went judge shopping and got their case in front of her. Same as all those culture war cases filed in TX end up in front of Kasczmerek.

If she doesn't recuse herself, the legal talking heads seem to think DoJ will ask that she be recused, but also that the request will be a long shot.

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
23. Read the last page of the indictment
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 12:41 PM
Jun 2023

There are boxes to select the jurisdiction where DOJ wants the case tried. The box for WPB (West Palm Beach) is X'd in. Smith et al must have known that by selecting that jurisdiction, there was a chance they could end up with her. They must also have known she could be assigned to the case given her previous involvement with the case even if she did wrongly insert herself into it.

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
6. A hack and a Right wing nut job, not a good combo
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:43 AM
Jun 2023

She looks like another one of his crazy cult and I doubt she is leaving her tRump flag at the door of the courthouse. She has a tRump flag wrapped around her brain and will be loyal to her dear leader. I expect the worst from her. I am a realist.

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
8. I would bet dollars to donuts that Trump lawyers are secretly conspiring with her...
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:48 AM
Jun 2023

to work out a "deal" that would be benefical for both Trump and her.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
13. Or someone like...
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:00 AM
Jun 2023

Harlan Crow or the guy that pushed for nomination. Someone is instructing her. She doesn't strike me as being competent enough for something this huge.

Also

She's a novice with so little experience that it would be negligence on the part of the 11th circuit to allow her to hear this case.

tinrobot

(12,062 posts)
20. She's also in the middle of DeSantis country.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:20 AM
Jun 2023

That judge could be a great way to knock out his #1 opponent.

In fact, I bet a lot of GOP candidates want to talk to her.

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
11. Conservatives are cowards at heart
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:57 AM
Jun 2023

It's how the right-wing propaganda machine manipulates them

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