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Duers.... What's shown in this picture of the stolen docs? (The red circle) (Original Post) Nevilledog Jun 2023 OP
That's what it looks like to me Walleye Jun 2023 #1
Why yes, yes it does Hekate Jun 2023 #2
Either a coper or a Dalek. JanMichael Jun 2023 #3
lol nt BootinUp Jun 2023 #8
Exterminate. n/t ChazII Jun 2023 #62
LOL I had to look up Dalek msfiddlestix Jun 2023 #68
So Trump was copying the documents. Irish_Dem Jun 2023 #4
Of course he was. Why sell just the original when you can sell 10-100 copies? erronis Jun 2023 #7
Exactly my thoughts. Irish_Dem Jun 2023 #9
Not news - in that photo the FBI took soldierant Jun 2023 #54
100% correct. I've noticed how most folks, & our media... CaptainTruth Jun 2023 #59
TBHm I didn't cach it myself. soldierant Jun 2023 #61
Still IMO, with a copier rilght there, strongly suggests docs were COPIED. brush Jun 2023 #63
So he was hiding and keeping the originals, and also making copies. Irish_Dem Jun 2023 #67
Ditto that. Whoops, photocopy that. erronis Jun 2023 #5
Think its just a small concrete wall. Eko Jun 2023 #6
No structural or functional reason for a short wall at that spot. erronis Jun 2023 #12
Here. Eko Jun 2023 #16
You can see the bricks and where it is connected to the wall. Eko Jun 2023 #18
Thanks. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #19
I would bet everything I have though that he has one and has used it to make copies of Eko Jun 2023 #20
No doubt. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #22
We know FOR A FACT copies were made... AZ8theist Jun 2023 #27
Thank you. This was a great info link. ancianita Jun 2023 #65
Ok - I'll go along with this. Thanks for the further analysis. erronis Jun 2023 #24
Welcome. Eko Jun 2023 #26
Yes. I see the wall zooming in. There's something on top like a package. Silent Type Jun 2023 #39
Agree. The Unmitigated Gall Jun 2023 #13
I will agree dhol82 Jun 2023 #14
Trump likes walls built that aren't really needed nt Shermann Jun 2023 #23
Ba-dum-tss Geechie Jun 2023 #25
That's it! Permanut Jun 2023 #49
Agreed. chowder66 Jun 2023 #46
I looked closely and I agree. BigmanPigman Jun 2023 #47
Looks like a short wall of the same concrete or cinder block material as the wall on the right, RockRaven Jun 2023 #10
Wouldn't the indictment have mentioned that? Frasier Balzov Jun 2023 #11
I see a filing cabinet (side drawers, not front) with a ream of paper and a cardboard mailer on top. Stinky The Clown Jun 2023 #15
An optical illusion Windy City Charlie Jun 2023 #17
When I worked at a USPS bulk mail facility, we color-coded containers. John1956PA Jun 2023 #21
That's what I see too. bottomofthehill Jun 2023 #30
Green stickers meant sell to the Saudis. rubbersole Jun 2023 #42
Still looks like a copier dweller Jun 2023 #28
I think that "tray" is a plastic pipe going into the floor. johnp3907 Jun 2023 #45
A pipe into the floor like that dweller Jun 2023 #52
Yeah. johnp3907 Jun 2023 #53
I think that's doubtful. Disaffected Jun 2023 #29
Copier. moondust Jun 2023 #31
I know what this is ThoughtCriminal Jun 2023 #32
In the middle of the circle, a copier SpankMe Jun 2023 #33
Depending on the copier that thing might have a hard drive and a copy of everything it's.. yourout Jun 2023 #34
Copier/fax machine combo? deminks Jun 2023 #35
Yes nowforever Jun 2023 #64
+1 Lucinda Jun 2023 #36
Having worked in IT supporting large and small offices I doubt that is a copier. Ford_Prefect Jun 2023 #37
It could be a copier, or a dehumidifier, or a washing machine or probably a dozen more items. Chainfire Jun 2023 #38
Looks familiar. Can't quite place the face. usonian Jun 2023 #40
K n R ! Thanks for posting!... JoeOtterbein Jun 2023 #41
Pretty sure it is plumbing related. mn9driver Jun 2023 #43
A cinder block wall (just like the walls of the room). n/t demmiblue Jun 2023 #44
Who cares? There... reACTIONary Jun 2023 #48
So he just wasn't done yet? Sifting thru. When was this pic taken? Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2023 #50
The rooms where classified documents were stored at Mar-a-Lago are also where Lindsey Graham slept Celerity Jun 2023 #51
Probably searching for the kompromat.... AZ8theist Jun 2023 #66
It looks like a copier or printer tornado34jh Jun 2023 #55
Agent 13 inside Kennah Jun 2023 #56
Copier or not BaronChocula Jun 2023 #57
Looks like a shorter wall attached to the back wall. Doesn't look like a copier Raine Jun 2023 #58
wow TomDaisy Jun 2023 #60
It looks like a box with a smaller box on top. brooklynite Jun 2023 #69
Gee. Now why would he need a copier in the storage room? Kid Berwyn Jun 2023 #70

msfiddlestix

(7,287 posts)
68. LOL I had to look up Dalek
Sun Jun 11, 2023, 08:44 AM
Jun 2023


Dalek meaning: 1. an imaginary creature that talks in a strange voice and kills people: 2. an imaginary creature


soldierant

(6,940 posts)
54. Not news - in that photo the FBI took
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:17 PM
Jun 2023

of the docs spread out on the floor, all the ones with a whitw strip around the red or yellow border are copies. On the originals, the red or yellow bleeds to the edge.

CaptainTruth

(6,610 posts)
59. 100% correct. I've noticed how most folks, & our media...
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:38 PM
Jun 2023

...didn't catch that.

That's why the ruler was laid by the red (Top Secret) cover sheet in the pic. It was to show that the piece of paper was standard size. Therefore, the white border was there because it was a copy, not because the paper was oversize.

soldierant

(6,940 posts)
61. TBHm I didn't cach it myself.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:49 PM
Jun 2023

But whe I saw it pointed out,it clicked immediately, and I didn't forget.

brush

(53,925 posts)
63. Still IMO, with a copier rilght there, strongly suggests docs were COPIED.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:55 PM
Jun 2023

And who knows how many times and where and how often the copies were disseminated.

Which is the point.

Eko

(7,389 posts)
6. Think its just a small concrete wall.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:01 PM
Jun 2023

Right click open image in new tab, then do it again, cntrl + to enlarge and it looks like a small wall.
Eko

erronis

(15,393 posts)
12. No structural or functional reason for a short wall at that spot.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:05 PM
Jun 2023

Why do you think that might be the case? Magnifying an image can also lead to a lot of artifacts, both in the image and in the viewer's mind.

Eko

(7,389 posts)
18. You can see the bricks and where it is connected to the wall.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:11 PM
Jun 2023

Once again right click open image in new tab then cntrl + a couple of times and its just a wall.

Eko

(7,389 posts)
20. I would bet everything I have though that he has one and has used it to make copies of
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:12 PM
Jun 2023

those documents.

Silent Type

(3,007 posts)
39. Yes. I see the wall zooming in. There's something on top like a package.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:11 PM
Jun 2023

That’s probably just the staging area for high quality reproductions, or he uses Kinkos.

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,837 posts)
13. Agree.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:05 PM
Jun 2023

Low wall. The angle out looks like it’s in the background. And looks like a shallow box resting on top.

BigmanPigman

(51,646 posts)
47. I looked closely and I agree.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:40 PM
Jun 2023

I'm pretty visual, too. I was a detailed illustrator and my trained eye agrees. It doesn't make sense to me bit it certainly appears to be a white, brick enclosure. I could be wrong, of course.

RockRaven

(15,050 posts)
10. Looks like a short wall of the same concrete or cinder block material as the wall on the right,
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:03 PM
Jun 2023

perhaps related to whatever that pipe is about.

At least that's what it looks like to me, on a tablet screen.

Frasier Balzov

(2,674 posts)
11. Wouldn't the indictment have mentioned that?
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:05 PM
Jun 2023

And wouldn't the copier have been seized by now to analyze what images it has recently captured?

Or are they saving that smoking-gun-on-Fifth-Avenue for trial?

Stinky The Clown

(67,832 posts)
15. I see a filing cabinet (side drawers, not front) with a ream of paper and a cardboard mailer on top.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:07 PM
Jun 2023

What I do NOT see is a document feeder on a copier. Also I have never seen a floor model copier that short.


. . . . . or a low block wall.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
17. An optical illusion
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:08 PM
Jun 2023

It's a short wall from probably at one time was 2 separate rooms. I think the thing sticking out that looks like what might be a feeder on the left hand side. is actually a flap from one of the boxes sitting on the floor. An optical illusion.

That's not to say copies haven't been made. But that's not a copier IMO

John1956PA

(2,665 posts)
21. When I worked at a USPS bulk mail facility, we color-coded containers.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:13 PM
Jun 2023

A green circular sticker meant that a given container filled with packages arrived at our facility on Wednesday. We did not place stickers on individual packages, only on the containers when they arrived off of the delivery trailer.

The diameters of the circular color stickers varied from one USPS facility to another.

bottomofthehill

(8,352 posts)
30. That's what I see too.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:31 PM
Jun 2023

The boxes in the circle are coded with a green sticker. The boxes on the left are not. I don’t know the significance of the sticker but it is on each of the boxes in the circle.

johnp3907

(3,734 posts)
45. I think that "tray" is a plastic pipe going into the floor.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:38 PM
Jun 2023

You can see another pipe going between some of the boxes , and 2 bigger ones on the wall to the right.

dweller

(23,684 posts)
52. A pipe into the floor like that
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:03 PM
Jun 2023

Would be a hazard, esp in the middle of the floor
The 2 large pipes on the right are connected to each other at the top

I also see an anomaly in the wall on the right, just past the large pipes … it seems the wall drops back there, by how much is unclear …

As far as the 1/2 wall/copier … a 1/2 wall might have a cap block to finish it, but that looks like 2 blocks of different thicknesses … it’s really unclear

I still think it could be a copier 🤔



✌🏻

johnp3907

(3,734 posts)
53. Yeah.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:11 PM
Jun 2023

I wouldn’t even have thought of a wall unless someone else hadn’t mentioned it. This reminds me of pictures purportedly of the Loch Ness Monster.

Disaffected

(4,571 posts)
29. I think that's doubtful.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:28 PM
Jun 2023

Doesn't really appear to be a copier and why would a copier be located in an otherwise empty (without the boxes) basement room? As well, there appears to be a box stored on top of it, whatever it is.

In any case, doesn't actually prove anything even if it was a copier.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,050 posts)
32. I know what this is
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:45 PM
Jun 2023

This is an espresso machine.

No, no, no wait. It's a snow cone maker, that's what it is.

Is it a water heater?

SpankMe

(2,970 posts)
33. In the middle of the circle, a copier
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:45 PM
Jun 2023

In the foreground of the circle, that's an Amazon shipping box with orange pancake makeup in it.

yourout

(7,534 posts)
34. Depending on the copier that thing might have a hard drive and a copy of everything it's..
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 09:48 PM
Jun 2023

Scanned.
Now that would be some popcorn Worthy drama.

Ford_Prefect

(7,927 posts)
37. Having worked in IT supporting large and small offices I doubt that is a copier.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:05 PM
Jun 2023

Last edited Sun Jun 11, 2023, 01:12 PM - Edit history (1)

There would be clearer separation lines on the surfaces we can see and that device is rather small for the volume and quality they would need to use. The auto-feeder would be rather obvious as well. What I don't see in the room is any kind of electrical feed for the unit. This is a concrete and cinderblock storage or service closet. There would be surface mounted conduit leading to an outlet on that wall and there is none, unlike the ceiling.

Chainfire

(17,671 posts)
38. It could be a copier, or a dehumidifier, or a washing machine or probably a dozen more items.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:05 PM
Jun 2023

But I would rather it be a copier.

mn9driver

(4,428 posts)
43. Pretty sure it is plumbing related.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:23 PM
Jun 2023

Having done a little plumbing over the years, it looks like a vent wall, designed to protect a required vent loop, probably tied to the large pipe running down the wall. It might be related to the swimming pool, which was in the news a couple days ago…

reACTIONary

(5,789 posts)
48. Who cares? There...
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:46 PM
Jun 2023

... certainly is a copier somewhere in mal a lago. Big deal. It doesn't mean a thing, no mater where it is located.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
50. So he just wasn't done yet? Sifting thru. When was this pic taken?
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:52 PM
Jun 2023

Before raid right? So he thought he had more time. But it was after the subpoena and atty set up. Or was it?

Yikes this is confusing

tornado34jh

(955 posts)
55. It looks like a copier or printer
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:20 PM
Jun 2023

Not just any copier/printer, but one of those office ones that can do a lot for at least a medium-size company. It's definitely not a fax machine. I also wonder if there are more than one of them.

Raine

(30,541 posts)
58. Looks like a shorter wall attached to the back wall. Doesn't look like a copier
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 11:36 PM
Jun 2023

at all. It's too rough on the side, not smooth metal at all.

Kid Berwyn

(15,007 posts)
70. Gee. Now why would he need a copier in the storage room?
Sun Jun 11, 2023, 08:49 AM
Jun 2023

Isn’t that dangerous, having electrical appliances in a room prone to flooding?

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