Trump kept 8 documents so sensitive even their access codes are secret, indictment shows

[Beachnutt]

Business insider
Donald Trump didn't keep just any secret records. He stashed away what look to be some choice souvenirs — classified maps of a foreign country, high-resolution imagery likely from US spy satellites, and even more highly sensitive ones about nuclear secrets, his indictment alleges.

There are 31 classified documents recovered by FBI agents that are at the epicenter of the case. The federal indictment alleges Trump "willfully" retained and then failed to return those documents back to the government after his presidency ended.

Trump, for his part, has claimed he was legally entitled to keep these records via the Presidential Records Act, which says an administration's documents belong to the government with exceptions for personal notes and journals
The fifth document listed by prosecutors, for example, is top secret, and bears two additional rules: it can not be shared with US allies (NORFORN) and is revealing enough of spying methods that the originating agency controls its further dissemination (ORCON). But right after the TOP SECRET classification level, two other access codes were redacted by prosecutors. All we are able to surmise comes from the description offered: "Document dated June 2020 concerning nuclear capabilities of a foreign country."
Federal prosecutors listed 31 highly sensitive documents they recovered via an FBI search of Mar-a-Lago in August, 2022.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-kept-documents-so-sensitive-even-access-codes-secret-indictment-2023-6

[Lonestarblue]

1. Those are the documents whose information he has probably sold to our enemies.

It may be impossible to prove that Trump sold information, but his greed is such that I find it impossible to believe that he did not. I am really hoping that Jack Smith has intelligence gathered during the time Trump had the documents that shows that information in the hands of a foreign country that could only have acquired it from Trump.

[enid602]

4. Transferring

Was he selling docs, or merely ‘transferring’ his office to Mar a Lardo so he could rule the post J6 country from FL?

[triron]

15. I have a bridge in Arizona to sell you.

[TxVietVet]

22. he sold copies of the documents

to our enemies for cash. tRumpf has all these lawyers working for him that he can't pay.

[intrepidity]

25. I'm surprised we haven't heard that as a defense (yet). nt

[republianmushroom]

2. Prison time

Prison will be a good place for trump to die.

[TheBlackAdder]

3. The key word is "recovered." How many originals were given to enemies of the state?

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Trump stole so much shit, it probably will be unknown what was taken.

He probably flushed the stuff he couldn't sell as he was going through them on the toilet. If he sold/gave away the originals, he could claim he never had them since they were not in his possession.

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[Hermit-The-Prog]

18. Also, how many are at his other properties?

[DENVERPOPS]

5. WASF.......................NC

[PortTack]

6. So...anyone STILL think judge cannon is going to dismiss charges or any other nonsense??!!

[Marius25]

7. Yes, because she doesn't care about our nation's secrets.

She's a MAGA cultist/ a true believer.

It's like asking if Gym Jordan or Marjorie Taylor Greene would go easy on Trump if they were the judge. Um, duh, of course they would.

[we can do it]

13. Sure

[PortTack]

19. SC Smith is NOT in the same league as gym and mtg...please!!

[dalton99a]

8. Cannon doesn't give a shit about America or Americans or American democracy

She is a hardcore, activist Fascist Society member like Matthew Kacsmaryk

[Hermit-The-Prog]

17. The focus of the radicalized Republican party is power at all costs.

[Lonestarblue]

21. She represents the problem with lifetime appointments--no accountability except impeachment.

And that will not happen because Republicans love judges who rule for them instead of the law. Does she really have anything to lose? She won’t be impeached, but she can delay, delay, delay and cause all kinds of mischief. Even if her decisions are eventually overruled, she will have earned points with the Republican Party. I hope the DOJ can get her dismissed from the case for prejudice.

[Obvious85]

9. Trump Stole

Trump stole docs from 7 agencies: the CIA being in charge of providing intelligence on foreign countries and global issues to the president, the Department of Defense, being responsible for providing the military forces needed to deter war and ensure national security, the National Security Agency which runs cybersecurity, the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency handles the analysis of imagery, imagery intelligence & geospatial information in support of the national security objectives, the National Reconnaissance Office, responsible for developing, acquiring, launching, and operating space-based surveillance, the Department of Energy, which maintains nuclear deterrent to protect national security, and the Department of State and its Bureau of Intelligence and Research.

[lpbk2713]

10. Lock him up in Super Max right now.

Trump is a threat to national security. Deal with the trial later.

[SpankMe]

11. Some crazy stuff

When the information so sensitive that even the classification markings were classified, you know you're in trouble!

[Javaman]

12. I honestly wonder how many of these documents

Ended up in the dark web

[Major Nikon]

14. Who could ever imagined giving a pathological narcissist access to state secrets was a bad idea?

[usaf-vet]

20. Yes because he then gave his sons, daugher, and SIL Jarad clearences they couldn't otheriwise get.

Making illegal dissemination of secrets even more likely. AKA Jarad's 2 billion dollar "deal."

[CaptainTruth]

16. The dolt doesn't even understand the Presidential Records Act.

"the Presidential Records Act, which says an administration's documents belong to the government"

The Act says the docs belong TO THE GOVERNMENT. The day he stopped being POTUS he was NO LONGER THE GOVERNMENT.

Very simple concept that anyone should be able to understand, & an argument that will NOT hold up in court.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. Something just dawned on me besides the obvious.

Was there no awareness whatsoever by any Govt groups like DoD, NSA, CIA.. that trump was not to be trusted to handle these critically secret documents? Wonder if anyone tried to retrieve?. If a group kept logs they would have known trump still had X document?

Read that Obama WH was meticulous with this and had people snatching up documents at the end of meetings. Read John Kelly was a good doc gatekeeper too.

[Joinfortmill]

24. Trump betrayed his country in the worst possible way.. We used to hang people for this.

[gratuitous]

26. I wonder if the government can sue him for damages?

I would imagine that tracking down all these documents, what they affected, who they affected, and making sure that assets weren't compromised didn't come cheap. And assets that were compromised and had to be replaced wasn't free, either. Can the government agencies sue the former guy for the costs of cleaning up the mess he's made?

[liberalla]

27. Well of course he did! Geez! I don't mean to be a smart ass, but it doesn't surprise me at all.

He's just so gawd damned slimey!



What really concerns me is this... how are we containing the threat that is DJT? He's running around free. Still freely functioning. He's going to continue to be a threat and stir up trouble for months/years. The damage he's caused and will continue to cause is seemingly endless. I do believe that eventually he will be stopped and will lose his freedom. But between now and then is plenty of time for more law-breaking, secret-selling, felony criminal behavior.

There are probably people behind the scenes paying close attention and monitoring the situation, right? But they're still very limited in what they can do, right?

It's all so Effd up.

[calimary]

28. O. M. G.

Oh my Sweet God…

He must NEVER see the inside of the Oval Office AGAIN. NOT EVER!!!!!

[live love laugh]

29. Chilling.