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Criminal charges don't go away based on how many threats you make against judges, investigators, and/or their families.
"Everyone hates me" is not a viable legal defense.
Mocking the laws you are charged under does not alter those laws, nor their effect, in any way.
No one has ever been exonerated on the basis that someone else did something worse.
No trial is ever dismissed because there's a crowd outside demanding it.
This seems to be Donald's legal strategy - and he probably pats himself on the back every day for being brilliant enough to have thunk it up all by himself!
Faux pas
(16,356 posts)WarGamer
(18,613 posts)Delay, delay and delay...
If he wins in 2024, the TRUMP AG comes out and announces the DoJ formally apologizes to DJT, dropping all charges and paying his legal fees...
Investigations to open targeted at Jack Smith, Merrick Garland and Joe Biden.
He just needs a Judge and appellate Courts to give him some help.
I don't think anyone knows just how dangerous the world is in 2025 if Trump wins.
Skittles
(171,710 posts)all his miserable life he has used his name, money, lawsuits to bully his way out of trouble.....and it simply is not working this time
BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)(As staff is probably told to call him) a Mr Jack Smith is on the phone. He says its urgent.
as someone on Twitter said, if ever there was a face that said FUCK AROUND AND FIND OUT, it is Jack Smith's!

BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)But if I ever faltered, the last thing I would want to hear is that Jack Smith is prosecuting you.
I wish ole Jack nothing but the best.
Skittles
(171,710 posts)don't lie to the Feds....DO NOT LIE TO THE FEDS....they'll work with you but if you LIE to them, it's over!
I believe it was Mark Twain who brilliantly said:
Always tell the truth and youll never have to remember anything.
We could fill the library of congress with what trump cant remember.
orleans
(36,918 posts)don't lie to me....DO NOT LIE TO ME....i'll work with you but if you LIE to me, it's over!
lol.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)You can not talk to them but if you do, even if you've broken a law or two, do not lie.
Skittles
(171,710 posts)"turn yourselves in, let's talk"
I think those that did that (as long as they weren't attacking cops or shitting in the halls) probably got handled well - but if the Feds have to hunt you down and then you LIE to them, all bets are OFF!
debm55
(60,612 posts)love this.
OAITW r.2.0
(32,133 posts)HDGAF. If you did crimes, he's got the times.
calimary
(90,020 posts)Thats probably what trump sees every time Jack Smiths name or image comes up.
tblue37
(68,436 posts)jmowreader
(53,194 posts)SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)jmowreader
(53,194 posts)Trump has run for office twice. The Electoral College is the only reason he was president.
OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)Thanks to Russian interference on Facebook.
multigraincracker
(37,651 posts)to learn that lesson. Put some balance in his life. Give him time to think about
.
Nah, wont happen.
BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)Give him time. Fine by me. He can get balance in his life in the prison gym.
Nice message in code to Jack Smith.
lastlib
(28,264 posts)What a deal!
OAITW r.2.0
(32,133 posts)republianmushroom
(22,325 posts)debm55
(60,612 posts)spanone
(141,609 posts)👍🏼...K&R...👍🏼
ancianita
(43,307 posts)
joet67
(624 posts)Has ANYONE ever been able to effectively get him to see reality? It sure seems not. He has successfully managed to live entirely within the confines of a reality he creates.
FuzzyRabbit
(2,217 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(32,133 posts)the day he stumbled into office, until the day he left. But the criming never stopped.
3catwoman3
(29,406 posts)No.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)While the cop is writing your ticket, he's not going to give a hoot that your neighbor speeds through this neighborhood all the time.
H2O Man
(79,051 posts)The defendent has limited intellectual abilities. He does things by route, the same way every time. As you note, this isn't what he is used to. Thus, although he is on the wrong route, he still views this as a fund-raising opportunity. For it is impossible for him to do otherwise, as that would require he focus on the reality of his situation.
OldBaldy1701E
(11,142 posts)Sorry, I had to fix this for you. That gibbon has no idea what reality is. He has never lived in it and never will.
ailsagirl
(24,287 posts)As always!
chowmama
(1,096 posts)1) They wouldn't dare.
2) I can negotiate my way out of this.
3) I can mobilize the crazy mob, take over everything by force and keep it forever.
Nothing else and certainly no reality will ever impinge on this worldview. He's going to be gobsmacked when it doesn't happen.
sheshe2
(97,626 posts)ancianita
(43,307 posts)But. IF he's allowed to leave, as soon as he leaves the courtroom, he'll slink away to score his drug, attention-all, for his addiction high, cursing Jack Smith and his wife.
On the other hand. He might be pre-trial detained, because that's what always happens to Espionage defendants.
That will definitely break him. We ourselves won't be frustrated by delaydelay cuz he'll want that Miami rocket docket treatment.
This year won't go well for dirty donnie.
But it'll go well for us.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)2024 election, right?
Stipulating he wins R nom. He'll be in the middle of the case.. no trial yet.
But NY trial next March?
CaptainTruth
(8,200 posts)That's been his approach his entire career, through, what 7,500 lawsuits against him?
Throw money & lawyers at it & make it go away by settling quietly with an NDA.
But now he can't do that. It's not a civil lawsuit, he's facing serious criminal charges. He's way out of his depth on this one.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,189 posts)Kablooie
(19,107 posts)And in this case it could pay off big.
If he can delay the trial until after the election he could possibly be president and it would all go away.
If he's not, another Republican could be president and would pardon him for everything.
Of course if a Republican doesn't win he's in deep shit but still, delaying and complicating procedures is his best bet.
jimmy the one
(2,808 posts)It could be if you are between the ages of 4 thru 6 and being laughed at for having a nose booger etc..
Criminal charges don't go away based on how many threats you make against judges, investigators, and/or their families.
Tho it did work for Henry the 8th.
Actually some felonious charges, albeit which ended in convictions, did disappear for others due to the trump special pardon power for fellow nefarious cronies.
My pet peeve is trump's incessant juvenile ad hominem attacks, which appeal predominantly to guffawing mentally challenged magats.
I would like to see a poll of how many trump maga supporters currently think Bill Barr a gutless pig - my guess positive support over 50%.
Bill Barr = gutless pig; Selected past monikers: Broken Old Crow - mitch mcconnell , Crazy Nancy, Little Marco, Shifty Schiff + Pencil Neck, Pocahontas (E Warren), Low-IQ Maxine Waters, Psycho Joe (scarborough), Crooked Joe Biden, Boot-Edge-Edge (buttigieg).
Not to forget trump's transparent ruse of self exoneration: 'Me the jury finds Me the defendant NOT GUILTY. Me Honor says CASE DISMISSED!'
Raven
(14,275 posts)malaise
(296,102 posts)Rec
niyad
(132,440 posts)Kath2
(3,192 posts)His legal strategy is a total lack of strategy, which is not surprising.
Wicked Blue
(8,867 posts)I suspect the people surrounding him are afraid of flying ketchup bottles.
Peacetrain
(24,288 posts)I stand with hubby..
You hit that one right out of the Park Nancy
eppur_se_muova
(41,941 posts)Actually, that has happened many times, but it's usually been followed by a lynching of the accused.
Not the kind of precedent you'd seek out, in any case. But please proceed, Individual 1.
TeamProg
(6,630 posts)Jarqui
(10,909 posts)election lawsuit record.
Lying and citing bogus facts doesn't get one very far in court cases. Even Rudy Giuliani got that.
The Executive Branch was a disaster with Trump & Bush. Legislative Branch has often been a polarized disaster since Newt Gingrich. The Judicial Branch, in spite of the sexual assaulters and bribe taking on SCOTUS by a few of them, is holding the country together under the rule of law ... unless Aileen Cannon stays on ...
samplegirl
(13,984 posts)Waste of breath!
IronLionZion
(51,268 posts)RainCaster
(13,712 posts)He will have a hell of a time figuring out "what went wrong" with his brilliant defense and testimony.
Martin68
(27,749 posts)supporters. He hopes his supporters will rise up and intimated the judicial system.
louis-t
(24,618 posts)who signed the law turning the mishandling of classified documents into a felony. They were gonna git Hillary with that one. This is the very definition of 'hoisted by one's own petard'.
Upthevibe
(10,180 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Induction Officer: Empty your pockets, remove your shoe laces and sign the receipt.
Trump: Wait, wait I want to double down again
IO: Sorry you can't double down further than this. End of the double down line
Trump: You can always double down, I have been doing for 5 decades.
IO: Sign here.