The Mystery Of The Bedminster Documents

[Nevilledog]

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/the-mystery-of-the-bedminster-documents

Even after months of asking nicely, the issuance of a grand jury subpoena, searches executed by FBI agents, and a federal indictment of Donald Trump, it’s far from clear that the government knows the location of all of the records that the former president took after leaving office.

The Trump indictment was chock-full with cameos by Mar-a-Lago employees, including military-grade Diet Coke valet Walt Nauta, discussing how and where to move boxes of records that included classified information, and one now-infamous photo of a bathroom (and shower) filled to the ceiling with stacks of boxes.

But prosecutors alleged in the indictment that the records didn’t only stay in Mar-a-Lago’s chandelier-bedecked bathrooms, ballrooms, and storage rooms. They claim in the document to know of at least two episodes in which Trump moved “boxes” to his estate and golf resort in Bedminster, New Jersey.

Trump brandished classified records at Bedminster, prosecutors say, including a supposed invasion plan of Iran and a map. CBS reported last week that Trump attorneys had told the DOJ that they couldn’t find the Iran invasion plan.

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[Walleye]

1. Maybe they are hoping to flip Nauta before they search there

I thought it was funny that he couldn’t find lawyers with a high enough security clearance to look at the documents he had shown to his diet Coke guy

[2naSalit]

9. The absurdity...

Is a feature, I think.

[Blue Owl]

2. A tisket, a tasket...

Dig up the goddamned casket!!!

[Lochloosa]

3. No shit!

[usonian]

4. Ground-penetrating radar can see through it, I imagine.

You don't think that bastard would pay for anything more durable than balsa wood, do you?

[scarletlib]

26. Quite easily. It's used in archaeology digs all the time.

If there is a body there it would be discernible. Other stuff would show up but couldn’t be identified unless the grave was exhumed.

[wnylib]

32. No body. She was cremated.

But boxes might show up.

[2naSalit]

10. +1

[gratuitous]

5. I saw a post earlier today that made me think on this

The writer presented himself as having been in a high-up classified position, and I have no reason to doubt that. But even if he was just a poseur or a wannabe, what he said rang true to me.

That is, the folks who write these intelligence assessments and analyze reports and do all the other stuff they do for the country are highly motivated to get it right. Of course, if you do, your chances of promotion are better, but there's another consideration. The people who read those reports depend on them to make literal life-and-death decisions for government employees around the world. Those people in other countries, in turn, know that they owe their personal safety and security to these assessments being right.

And this is the way the former guy treated that classified and highly sensitive information: trophies to be displayed to knuckleheads and other people he wanted to impress, and just maybe (definitely) to agents of foreign governments hostile to our interests. The former guy enjoys near total support from Republicans for this.

[jls4561]

6. Great title for a bad novel ...I will start

It was a dark and stormy night, but in the brightly lit tacky halls, the motion of the boxes continued. “Faster!” yelled the fat man as he mopped his brow and continued swilling another Diet Coke. “They will be here soon!”

Next paragraph yours…

[allegorical oracle]

7. For sure...was a flashback to the first Miss Marple I ever read. n/t

[marble falls]

8. Where's Trump going to bunk if Jack Smith puts him on notice that Bedminster is ...

... also a crime scene and evidence rich environment tied to Mar A-Lago?

[2naSalit]

11. The tower in Manhattan?

[marble falls]

12. NYC Central jail?

[2naSalit]

13. Might be easier to contain there.

[Deuxcents]

20. Doral country club in Miami

[Buns_of_Fire]

14. Sounds like a job for the Hardy Boys.

With a couple of sturdy shovels. The Mystery of the Top-Secret Grave, and all that (may be too intense for younger readers).

[SheilaAnn]

15. Nancy Drew is on it, I'm sure..lol.

[marble falls]

17. Read it when I was a kid ...

[csziggy]

16. Something I remember seeing but has not been mentioned recently

A while back there was a photo circulating on social media of TFG's plane purportedly in New Jersey with a bunch of file boxes being unloaded/loaded. There was the implication that those were some of the documents being sought for by NARAL.

Or was that just a figment of my imagination?

ETA - Not a photo, but video!

[Nevilledog]

18. I think it was even referenced in the indictment. Here:

[csziggy]

19. Thank you! I guess I should read the indictment

But I hate to deal with the thought of TFG at all anymore.

[Nevilledog]

21. It's a delicious read. Or Ali Velshi read it on a podcast

[csziggy]

22. While I like Ali's voice, I'd rather read it.

I'll look for it to download. Problem is, I've had a headache for a couple of days so just watching the coverage has added to the pain..

[Nevilledog]

23. Here's a link directly to the document

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/06/trump-indictment.pdf

[csziggy]

24. Thank you! Just in time

Our power and internet went out last night. Internet is back, but not power. I have a generator for the house, but not the well, so at least I can get online, even if I can't flush my toilets or take a shower.

There are more storms going through the area so it will probably take a while to get all the outages repaired. Centurylink had to bring in a generator to power the telephone/internet substation down the road.

Rural living is fun.

[Nevilledog]

25. That sounds miserable! Hope it all gets resolved quickly.

[csziggy]

33. Still waiting. On hold for the electric co-op

19 hours and nothing yet. Every so often there is a momentary blip, but that's it.

[Hekate]

27. Ask Ivana

[Mysterian]

28. If shit goes south with the crooked judge in Florida,

Mr. Smith will indict the traitor in NJ.

[Raftergirl]

29. It's also possible there in another Grand Jury in NJ for the Bedminster part of the case.

None of us (or the media) knew anything about a Grand Jury in Florida until we heard about the Indictment being issued.

It might be something Jack is keeping up his sleeve if things go badly in FL because of the Judge.

[senseandsensibility]

31. True

JS does not leak.

[sarcasmo]

30. Iran invasion plan, Iran nuclear document etc....