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Joinfortmill

(21,169 posts)
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 09:37 AM Jun 2023

How Much Damage has the Trump-Putin Collusion Inflicted on America?

https://hartmannreport.com/p/how-much-damage-has-the-trump-putin-dfb

This is a 'must read' people. (my words)

'If Trump shared American secrets with Putin, our intelligence agencies are not going to call a press conference to let us all know...In 2019 The Washington Post revealed that, throughout his presidency, Donald Trump was having secret phone conversations with Russia’s President Putin (over 20 have been identified so far, including one just days before the 2020 election)...The Washington Post reported last August that Trump had a habit of carrying top-secret information that could severely damage our national security, leaving it in hotel rooms in hostile nations.

In his first months in office, Trump outed an Israeli spy to the Russian Ambassador in what he thought was going to be a “secret Oval Office meeting” (the Russians released the photo to the press), resulting in MOSAD having to “burn” (relocate, change identity of) that spy.,,That, in turn, prompted the CIA to worry that a longtime American spy buried deep in the Kremlin was similarly vulnerable to Trump handing him over to Putin...The CIA concluded that the risk Trump had burned or was about to burn our spy inside the Kremlin was so great that — at massive loss to US intelligence abilities that...they pulled our spy out of Russia in the first year of Trump’s presidency, 2017.

in Helsinki on July 16, 2018, Trump and Putin talked in private for several hours and Trump ordered his translators’ notes destroyed...Three weeks after Trump’s July 16, 2018 meeting with Putin in Helsinki, Senator Rand Paul made a solo trip to Moscow to personally hand-deliver a document or package of documents from Trump to Putin. Its contents are still unknown, although Paul told the press it was a “personal” letter of some sort.

From campaigning to destroy NATO to opposing aid to Ukraine to demolishing the free world’s confidence in America’s ability to keep top secret information confidential, Trump’s goal appears to be,... to “Make America Russia.”











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How Much Damage has the Trump-Putin Collusion Inflicted on America? (Original Post) Joinfortmill Jun 2023 OP
Probably much more than the powers that be louslobbs Jun 2023 #1
We probably only know a fraction of what actually happened. zuul Jun 2023 #2
It is always worse than what we imagine n/t hibbing Jun 2023 #16
Some of the damage Botany Jun 2023 #3
Excellent Traildogbob Jun 2023 #10
D.U. REC orangecrush Jun 2023 #23
+1 CrispyQ Jun 2023 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Botany Jun 2023 #34
It was as if a cold damp blanket was over me Botany Jun 2023 #35
it seems reasonable to assume that any information provided to TFG was passed along to Putin anarch Jun 2023 #4
More than we'll probably ever know... Wounded Bear Jun 2023 #5
Russia Stood Behind Trump...even in the Oval Office. Kid Berwyn Jun 2023 #6
Russian asset on display. nt crickets Jun 2023 #20
KnR. n/t iluvtennis Jun 2023 #7
A Russian asset for decades. rubbersole Jun 2023 #8
I think the truth would be too much for us to handle. Boomerproud Jun 2023 #9
we will not ever llashram Jun 2023 #11
traitorous snake llashram Jun 2023 #12
I cried for my country that day Ponietz Jun 2023 #17
Any DU member has my full permission to republish any of my articles in full here thomhartmann Jun 2023 #13
thank you for all you have done over the years Celerity Jun 2023 #14
Thank you! nt crickets Jun 2023 #21
Thank you! 2naSalit Jun 2023 #25
Thanks so much. Joinfortmill Jun 2023 #28
Thank you very much. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2023 #30
remember that show The Americans cynical_idealist Jun 2023 #15
What was Ron Johnson (and other GQP) doing in Moscow July 4, 2018? Wild blueberry Jun 2023 #18
+1 2naSalit Jun 2023 #26
28 months and counting republianmushroom Jun 2023 #19
K & R Stuart G Jun 2023 #22
Letting this Russian asset get into the oval office orangecrush Jun 2023 #24
Amen to that Joinfortmill Jun 2023 #29
r&k So many unanswered questions about the shady deals MerryBlooms Jun 2023 #31
Let's not forget about that interpreter that was ordered to give her notes to the Orange Anus KewlKat Jun 2023 #32
K&R for exposure Blue Owl Jun 2023 #33

zuul

(14,704 posts)
2. We probably only know a fraction of what actually happened.
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 09:59 AM
Jun 2023

Hopefully the Department of Justice knows a lot more.

Botany

(77,324 posts)
3. Some of the damage
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 10:03 AM
Jun 2023

The Ukraine War



14 million dead (real #) world wide from c-19



J-6



Stolen national secrets



Stolen Presidential Election



The selling out of America







CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
27. +1
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 12:51 PM
Jun 2023

Look at him in that last photo, all puffed up on himself, thinking he's running with the big dogs, all the while Lavrov & Kislyak are laughing at his stupidity & ignorance.

A friend of mine scoffed when he announced he was running. Then she scoffed when he won the nomination. When he won, she said, "It's just four years." I think a lot of poeple thought that. I remember going to bed in tears & spending the day after in tears & feeling in shock for days. Weeks, even.

Response to CrispyQ (Reply #27)

Botany

(77,324 posts)
35. It was as if a cold damp blanket was over me
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 09:17 PM
Jun 2023

..... and from the get go it was obvious that the election was dirty and then stories out of Moscow about parties.

anarch

(6,536 posts)
4. it seems reasonable to assume that any information provided to TFG was passed along to Putin
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 10:07 AM
Jun 2023

no matter how classified or sensitive. I'd guess he expedited delivery of the really sensitive, national security items--like, "Oh wow boss, I've got something really good for you this morning, I wanted to call right away..." and it's an assessment of vulnerabilities around U.S. nuclear weapons programs or something

Kid Berwyn

(24,395 posts)
6. Russia Stood Behind Trump...even in the Oval Office.
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 10:17 AM
Jun 2023

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stands behind then-pee-resident Donald J Trump.



Photo courtesy of TASS because no other news media were invited in to witness the moment.

rubbersole

(11,223 posts)
8. A Russian asset for decades.
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 10:37 AM
Jun 2023

Laundering Russian mob money through the NY real estate markets was donnie's stock and trade. Putin was grooming him for bigger things.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
11. we will not ever
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 11:45 AM
Jun 2023

get the total damage done by the grifting traitor running the Republikkkan Party. Let's get real here: the Republican Party wants their man to be a dictator for life. And every other Republican POTUS till the time ends. They hopefully have made serious mistakes by them letting Trump continue to lead them off cliffs like lemmings.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
12. traitorous snake
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 11:54 AM
Jun 2023

I remember that Helsinki meeting where when they came out of that meeting trump with a hangdog look like he had just gotten paddled by the principal. And Putin looked like he was the cat that captured and ate the mouse. Seemingly now in retrospect, trumps continuing traitorous actions can be understood.
There are photos of him walking out of the meeting.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+and+Putin+photos+of+Helsinki+meeting&t=newext&atb=v373-1&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2F

Ponietz

(4,331 posts)
17. I cried for my country that day
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 12:13 PM
Jun 2023

The traitor sided with Putin over our own intelligence agencies.

thomhartmann

(3,995 posts)
13. Any DU member has my full permission to republish any of my articles in full here
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 11:57 AM
Jun 2023

with no need to just excerpt or even to hotlink to the original story. I've been a member at DU here almost since the beginning and have never objected to posts or argued copyright when folks reprint my stuff. My only goal is to get the information out...

This article, in particular, involved a lot of research and has pretty outrageous details, like when Trump appears to have burned American spies around the world, leading to multiple executions of American agents, handing them to Putin via Rand Paul. Feel free to cut and paste the entire piece...

- Thom

cynical_idealist

(543 posts)
15. remember that show The Americans
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 12:05 PM
Jun 2023

I thought in the last episode they could have mentioned they
were working on a "real estate developer".

I hope all his crimes are revealed and "justice" is applied

Wild blueberry

(8,295 posts)
18. What was Ron Johnson (and other GQP) doing in Moscow July 4, 2018?
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 12:17 PM
Jun 2023

Two weeks before Helsinki meeting. What did they bring before, as Rand brought after?

For me, one of the very worst moments of Dumpy's presidency* was that meeting in Helsinki.
The press conference was dreadful, but learning that the translator's notes were destroyed, poison.

Thank you for this article, Thom Hartmann!

orangecrush

(30,261 posts)
24. Letting this Russian asset get into the oval office
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 12:37 PM
Jun 2023

Is a massive intelligence failure.

I hope our intelligence services, now unhobbled, retaliate exponentially and with extreme prejudice.

MerryBlooms

(12,248 posts)
31. r&k So many unanswered questions about the shady deals
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 03:58 PM
Jun 2023

we know about... Imagine how many went on we have no idea about.

KewlKat

(5,810 posts)
32. Let's not forget about that interpreter that was ordered to give her notes to the Orange Anus
Thu Jun 15, 2023, 04:17 PM
Jun 2023

and never speak about what was said.


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