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She thought she was unshockable, then two castrated Ukrainian soldiers arrivedCHRISTINA LAMB
Sexual violence against men is an under-reported part of the Ukraine war. A psychologist describes the impact on her patients of their torture by Russians
Two Ukrainian soldiers say they were castrated by drunken Russian troops after being taken prisoner. One has since rejoined the fighting as he wants to kill Russians
For a month the two men could not tell their psychologist what had happened to them, only that it was horrible beyond words. If theres hell somewhere, its worse than that, said one.
The Ukrainian soldiers, aged 25 and 28, had been in Russian captivity one for one month, the other for three.
After their return in a prisoner swap they had been referred to Anzhelika Yatsenko, 41, a psychologist in Poltava who deals with troubled young men. They were suicidal. The younger one had tried to kill himself. I knew from previous cases they had probably been tortured, she said. As someone who gets referred the hardest cases, mostly men under 35, its very hard to surprise me.
When they finally told her, it was, she said, the first time I behaved not like a professional psychologist.
Id never heard anything so horrible. I told them I needed the bathroom and went and cried and cried. I didnt want them to see as they might think theres no hope.
The two men had been savagely beaten. Then the drunken Russians castrated them with a knife.
One of them told me, I dont know how I am still alive, there was so much blood, I thought Id die of blood poisoning, she said.
And of course its not just the physical damage. Imagine, they are young men just starting their sexual life and then in one second its all over. They still feel something, all these hormones, but they cant do anything. They can never be sexually active. For a young man its the worst thing to happen.
Their dignity has been damaged so badly and its impossible to forget. The Russians told them, We are doing this so you cant have kids. To me this is genocide.
Their treatment illustrates the heavy cost of this brutal war one that is only likely to rise as Ukrainian forces try to breach Russian lines in the early stages of their counteroffensive.
Using new western kit, including German Leopard tanks, Bradley fighting vehicles from the US and Storm Shadow cruise missiles from the UK, the Ukrainians have been trying to punch their way through parts of the 600-mile front line from Donbas in the east to the Zaporizhzhia region in the south, where they hope to cut off Russias land bridge to Crimea.
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betsuni
(29,075 posts)Stargazer99
(3,517 posts)for every Ukrain soldier defiled in this manner return the favor to Russian soldiers...nothing like the taste of your own medicine to cure you
That is a stupid and depraved idea.
ForgedCrank
(3,095 posts)a depraved thought indeed.
I completely understand when people are confronted with a human induced atrocity such as this, but our desire to say inappropriate things out loud should be tended to.
whopis01
(3,919 posts)It must be considered unacceptable at all times.
multigraincracker
(37,651 posts)We now have testosterone replacement therapy. Castration should never be a punishment for sex crimes because it doesnt work any longer.
The Russian army is cruel and stupid. War criminals.
LiberalArkie
(19,800 posts)usedtobedemgurl
(2,050 posts)Or there are children out there. This is physical and psychological warfare. Just telling them they can adopt is being blind to what happened to them. Part of their manhood was taken away from them. This is never acceptable.
Aussie105
(7,920 posts)Every war since human history started.
Part of the training soldiers get is to 'toughen them up', which is basically to brutalize them, so they can be sent into battle wanting to kill and brutalize others.
The ones that come back from war get PTSD and have a hell of a time readjusting to normal life.
Many can't.
Civilians are equally brutalized by watching what a war does around them.
The human damage can take generations to overcome.
Nobody wins.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)For example, "The Civil War" ...consequences of that one went on for ...decades, and decades more.
Raine
(31,177 posts)The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Who don't want to be there.
2naSalit
(102,780 posts)Always have been. This is just the modern day expression of it.
Disaffected
(6,399 posts)I don't see how that ends their sexual life. Unless the mutilation was more than castration...
58Sunliner
(6,329 posts)Disaffected
(6,399 posts)you think I'm kidding instead of taking lame-assed cheap shots?
58Sunliner
(6,329 posts)Do you have a good understanding of the male anatomy. These people were horrifically tortured and you come up with, hey not so bad they can still have sex.
Disaffected
(6,399 posts)Be gone foul troll....
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)Brutality is not new in ...WAR!..........(see post number 4...he said this first) by ...Aussie105
War has always brought out the worst in human beings. ....killing others is...'KILLING OTHER PEOPLE"
Sure but was as that meant to be a reply to some other post?