GOP in 4th largest county in FL: COVID vaccines a 'biological weapon'

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https://www.tampabay.com/news/hillsborough/2023/06/17/hillsborough-gop-covid-vaccines-biological-weapon/

The Hillsborough County Republican Party has become the seventh local party in the state to pass a resolution calling COVID-19 and the COVID vaccine “biological and technological weapons” and the vaccine, and the vaccines’ use a “denial of informed consent” and “crimes against humanity.”

The resolution asks Gov. Ron DeSantis to ban the vaccines in Florida and seize all supplies of the vaccine in the state.

The resolution originated with Joseph Sansone, a Lee County psychotherapist who specializes in hypnosis, according to his website...

https://www.tampabay.com/news/hillsborough/2023/06/17/hillsborough-gop-covid-vaccines-biological-weapon/

People who will believe anything are capable of anything. I'm shocked, disturbed, and wondering what the hell happened to these people.

[Blues Heron]

1. Murdoch-induced mass psychosis

We are witnessing a massive break with reality in real time. They will be studying these morons for generations - both psychologists, and future Murdochs.

[Habitation]

4. Ironic that it was introduced by psychotherapist who specializes in hypnosis

He's apparently been hypnotized himself.

[niyad]

20. Makes one wonder what he tells his hypnotized clients.

[cstanleytech]

29. Don't forget radio in the country which is mostly controlled by conservatives that support crackpot

talk show hosts that fill the airwaves with hate and lies.

[Blues Heron]

31. Hate radio is a huge part of it. Its where most of them learned the word liberal

as in who they should hate

[mwb970]

38. Future historians will be baffled by the behavior of today's conservatives.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

2. Sure enough when the next Cat 5 Hurricane blows through,

These same people will refuse relief because a Democrat is President. Go figure.

[Habitation]

6. They continue to refuse medicare expansion and

It means it makes their neighbors sicker but they don't care.

[MissB]

3. There was a local news story online yesterday about science

And how a large percent (40?) of Republicans didn’t trust science.

The comment section was full of anti-vaxxers. Absolutely shocking.

[Habitation]

7. What's so disturbing is they are actively anti-science

Our country is actively being attacked by psychological warfare.

[lapfog_1]

5. honest to god... we should solve their problem for them

and remove ALL vaccines from the state.

But then we would have to build a wall and prevent people from there to travel to any other state less we expose vulnerable people to all manner of horrible diseases.

Well, at the very least, we can deny them any federal assistance to fight the ravages of polio, chicken pox, mumps, rubella, HPV, etc.

[Habitation]

8. Desantis is going to have to address these resolutions if

he wants their continued support.

[niyad]

21. What about all the sane people who live there?

[Marthe48]

24. They'll have to sneak out to get any medical care

abortion, vaccines, probably any treatments newer than the Middle Ages.

[Habitation]

54. like living ex-pat in your own country thanks to them

[whopis01]

56. That's a pretty sick and evil thought

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honest to god... we should solve their problem for them and remove ALL vaccines from the state.

But then we would have to build a wall and prevent people from there to travel to any other state less we expose vulnerable people to all manner of horrible diseases.

Well, at the very least, we can deny them any federal assistance to fight the ravages of polio, chicken pox, mumps, rubella, HPV, etc.


You want to deprive millions of people of vital healthcare because an incredibly small number of people in one political party voted for this idiotic resolution?

You are as bad as them. They want to stop people from getting vital, life saving healthcare for political reasons. You want to stop people getting vital, lifesaving healthcare for political reasons.

It is absolutely sickening to see people posting such depraved, evil agendas on this site.

[csziggy]

57. Are you recommending that Democrats adopt the same level of cruelty that RepuQs have?

Because that is exactly what you are advocating. If that is acceptable on this site, I no longer wish to be here.

[HAB911]

9. Insanity stalks the land

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10. I wonder about the damage that Foxnews et al are causing

It'll take us more than a generation to repair the damage assuming we find a way to stop it.

[HAB911]

13. I'm sure it is an intellectual failing on my part

more plainly stated as, "I can't get my head around" what has happened to cause so many people to go insane. I'm no tin-foil hatter, but I look for environment causes like pharmaceuticals in our water self medicating us, microplastics, forever chemicals and hormones in the food chain, things that were never present before. Then layered upon that, the psychosis induced by Faux "news". I'm into my 70s and hope to make a graceful exit before the zombies attack.

[Habitation]

14. The executive committee passed it on a 70-44 vote Thursday night

Among the 44 no's was Jim Davison, a doctor who just filed to run for a county commissioner seat. Surely the 44 no's must think that their party's insane.

[HAB911]

16. One would hope, but

will they say so publicly? more than likely not.

[Delmette2.0]

39. I think like you do.

All the chemicals in our water, soil and air. Few people want to stop the pollution or find ways to get rid of them.

And there are to many people on this planet. We have to make individual choices to have fewer children and two reduce or stop our polluting.
No government will mandate either choice. Governments are more concerned about maintaining their status in the world. That means more babies, more technology and make life easier for those who can afford it.

[Initech]

55. Insanity in the form of online social media conspiracy theorists.

[Hortensis]

11. Besides the crazies, may be part of building a "defense" against

charges that the Republican Party colluded and conspired in the mass deaths over over a million Americans.

Which is TRUE.

That congressional Republicans initially blocked all the usual methods of containment, control and treatment is a matter of public record. Just for instance, back in 2002-3 during a pandemic then, Republican Senator Richard Burr headed the committee that literally wrote the book on congressional actions to take against national pandemic; in early 2020 Senate Republicans refused to implement its recommendations and Burr was discovered to have warned friends to move to pandemic-safe investments. Of course we all got to listen to many Republican officials tell people to in effect go spread the disease, at their head Der Leader.

Why? Well, no investigation yet and they're not saying on Fox. But to note, disease is a proven means of facilitating overthrow of governments by creating chaos and fear and the Republican Party had been working that direction for a couple decades. For another, an enormous transfer of wealth took place as a result -- to the classes the Republican Party serves. And, tRump's a viciously punitive narcissistic whackjob.

... Attention overdue, but we've had a hell of a lot on our plates while those culpable do everything they can to avoid the truth. Of course. They are something like 40% of all Americans, not just those they elect.

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12. Can they be sued?

Class action with local party codefendants.

[Hortensis]

15. :) A "dream" for another time, perhaps.

First society would have to come to a point where guilt was acknowledged. We're a long way out.

Reminds me, though, that with 80% of the dead of retirement age, many of those who'd have a cause of action (including those who colluded in spreading the virus, because after all, they were told to) prematurely inherited their estates. The recreational travel industry's booming. Housing stock, including vacation, in short supply.

[Botany]

17. Nice to see that the Hillsborough County Republican Party is repeating Russian disinformation ...

... about vaccines. Putin's cyber agents has flooded America with this kind of propaganda.



A republican (Ike) giving a scientist (Jonas Salk) an award for his work on the polio vaccine. Which stopped
this:

[IronLionZion]

18. Sorry Antivaxxer

https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

Plenty of conservatives are dying to own the libs. It can make a difference in some close elections.

[617Blue]

19. I love this site. nt

[paleotn]

25. Nice of them to rid us of their presence.

[liberal_mama]

46. That site should be called Sorry Antivaxxer Sorry Antimasker, Vaccines alone aren't enough to

prevent Covid. The site gives a false sense of security.

Even the owners of that site have gotten Covid despite being vaccinated.

Covid can cause many long term complications (and a high risk of long Covid). There are new studies coming out everyday, so people should use all the tools they have available to them to prevent getting infected: masks, vaccines, avoiding crowded areas full of unmasked people. Paxlovid isn't as easily available to everyone as people think.

My dad was fully vaxxed and boosted, healthy at 74, and died of Covid 8 months ago. It's a very sad Father's Day in my house today.

Thousands of people are still dying of Covid and leaving behind devastated loved ones, who not only had to lose their loved ones, but had to watch them die an unimaginably horrific, gruesome, and painful death. I don't think that's something I can ever get over. It's changed how I feel about everyone and everything.

Just because there is a media blackout and politicians are afraid to talk about it doesn't mean Covid isn't still going to kill or harm you or someone you love.

That's always been my problem with that site, they need to urge other mitigations.

Also, some people can't get vaccinated. I had 2 Pfizer vaccines, I had really believed that I wouldn't get Covid if I had the vaccinations and was very excited about it. However, I had terrible side effects from my autoimmune disorders (which I'm still suffering daily from) and I've been unable to get any boosters. I wouldn't even mind so much if I was protected completely from getting Covid as we were told in the beginning, but I've watched most vaccinated people I know take off their masks and get infected with Covid.

But as far as vaccines being biological weapons, those republicans are nuts. I think they could have been tested longer on people with different types of illnesses to make sure there wouldn't be issues, but I don't believe there was malicious intent, just overconfidence.

[IronLionZion]

50. Sorry for your loss

yes vaccines, masks, social distance, and having sensible people in your life doing the same are all important. COVID is here with humanity forever. It will never go away, just keep mutating seasonally. I had COVID in February.

[Johnny2X2X]

22. One true thing about Republicans

Is that whenever they say “personal choice” on any issue, they’re well on the way to deciding that the personal choice they make should be enforced on the rest of society. At their core, authoritarianism is their primary belief.

[Chi67]

27. You hit the nail on the head!

Authoritarianism is indeed their goal.

[sinkingfeeling]

23. And I'd bet every damn one of them has been vaccinated for polio.

[Botany]

26. And did they skip their tetanus shots (vaccines) too ... Lock Jaw is a real party

n/t

[Johonny]

30. But that's different but it would take a MAGAt

About an hour to explain why it is different to you and in the end you still wouldn’t understand the difference. As a far as I can tell the polio vaccine was created before the Civil Rights movement when America was still great or something like that . . .

[Johonny]

28. I had a GOPer at work tell me the same thing

He did his own research. The company made him get the jab and his arm is still injured from it. He says at least he got the Johnson and Johnson so there's no booster to injure him more.


Also thinks Trump is being destroyed by the government because he was a noble outsider trying to save America.


One born every minute

[33taw]

32. They do realize that Covid started during the Trump administration.

Or, have the forgotten operation Warp Speed?

[Generic Brad]

52. I think they stalled on the "Warp" part

Because their views are definitely twisted.

[cstanleytech]

34. Gee, I wonder what happened to that Republican platform of not letting big government

interfere with peoples lives.
I guess they took it out back and used an AK-47 on it.

[struggle4progress]

35. "You are getting sleepy, very sleepy! When you wake up, you will feel a sense

of joy that you have found someone who can solve all your medical problems with just hypnotherapy! You will stop giving money to quacks with MDs and will donate all your wealth to your favorite hypnotherapist! Hypnotherapy can cure male pattern baldness, pregnancy, tetanus, warts, and every other affliction! You will vote Republican!"

[bucolic_frolic]

36. What happened to them? They demonize so they can destroy barriers to their budding Dictatorship

[mwb970]

37. I just do not understand this hostility to vaccines.

These people are not right in the head.

[IndyPepper]

40. Off the deep end

They don't believe in science but they're absolutely certain that everything in the Bible is literally true. It's too bad they don't believe in evolution either because they are walking and talking proof that it's a thing.

[Botany]

42. FAFO

Not one dime of public money or any medication that the CDC and the same sort has come up with to fight C-19 should be used and don't think about the treatment for the disease either because Bill Clinton and the human genome project helped on that and it used fetal stem cells too.

Fuck these jerks.

[hay rick]

41. Vaccines can't fix stupid.

Meanwhile, "responsible" Republicans stand idly by because they need the votes...

[GreenWave]

43. They are mass murderers and they know it.

They kill because they feel power.

[CaptainTruth]

44. Stunts like this are pushing more FL folks away from the radical right.

There's a BIG difference between "small government & low taxes" & crazy crap like this & the garbage culture war DeFascist is waging, & at least where I live, people see that. I have conservative neighbors that scoff at things like this & say it's crazy.

My view, living here, is that the more they do stuff like this & the abortion ban & book banning & drag show banning etc the more they push average Floridians away from the radical right, in a more moderate direction, in our direction. Every conservative/Republican I know here (personally know, average folks) views things like this as "lunatic fringe."

Now they (& we) need to translate that into votes, so the lunatics don't get elected! The opportunity is there.

I swear if a good Democratic candidate ran on things like fixing the homeowners insurance crisis (probably the #1 issue of most homeowners in FL) there's a good chance they'd win.

[Habitation]

49. Yes, they'd Likely win!

👍🏿👍🏾👍🏽👍🏼👍🏻

[ecstatic]

45. Hmmmm. Is trump's administration mentioned anywhere in the resolution?

Because it was trump's administration that funded and oversaw the creation of those vaccines.

[Timeflyer]

47. Hoo-boy. We're not all nuts here, but...well, the heat?

[Initech]

48. Holy shit, these people are fucking stupid!

[JCMach1]

51. Fekking idiots... On my 4th bout. Current variant is a bugbear 100%

Certain no vaccine and I am in hospital, or deceased.

1st bout pre-vaccine came extremely close to getting me.

Keep you vaccines current ... Kraken is a beast and it is currently uncontrolled spreading in USA.

[Habitation]

53. Good point I think it's been 10 months since my 5th

nt

[JCMach1]

58. Get it, you don't want this one. Vaccines have held on rest of my family

And they are still good as of today.

Weird thing is I know exactly where I caught it. On vacation in London... On the tube, young lady dressed for clubbing on a steep escalator just in front of me hacking her lungs up. Because of the extreme lighting and angle I saw the droplet cloud hitting me like a car crash.