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applegrove

(132,216 posts)
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 09:04 PM Jun 2023

Mark Esper Says Trump Is a Danger to National Security

Mark Esper Says Trump Is a Danger to National Security

June 18, 2023 at 6:03 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 91 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2023/06/18/mark-esper-says-trump-is-a-danger-to-national-security/

"SNIP.........

“Donald Trump’s former secretary of defense, Mark Esper, thinks that the ex-president should not be in charge of the country’s most closely-held information, considering he was storing classified documents at his resort,” Rolling Stone reports.

Said Esper: “It’s just irresponsible action that places our service members at risk, places our nation’s security at risk. You cannot have these documents floating around. They need to be secured. We know how that happens, that only authorized persons are allowed to see documents or receive information from documents.”

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Mark Esper Says Trump Is a Danger to National Security (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2023 OP
Why were you silent before? niyad Jun 2023 #1
Maybe he should have said something while cashing Trump checks as a member of the Administration bottomofthehill Jun 2023 #2
Who could've known?! sakabatou Jun 2023 #3
A BFD, I think. OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2023 #4
It seems like a significant voice to speak out. kentuck Jun 2023 #5
I think so. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #13
Does he have a book coming out, Loryn Jun 2023 #6
Excellent question. mountain grammy Jun 2023 #7
Good point. applegrove Jun 2023 #8
SKITTLES SAYS THE SKY IS BLUE Skittles Jun 2023 #9
And where was Esper after Trump fired him and prior to 1/6/21? Botany Jun 2023 #10
+1 2naSalit Jun 2023 #11
Esper had to have known that the fix was in prior to 1/6/21 Botany Jun 2023 #12
He was fired so that... 2naSalit Jun 2023 #14
The rot is deep Botany Jun 2023 #16
Indeed. 2naSalit Jun 2023 #18
US and our allies' agents died after these secrets were made available to foreign agents LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #15
Is Esper running for President? Kennah Jun 2023 #17
Yeah, no shit, Sherlock. GoCubsGo Jun 2023 #19
In other news, water is wet. AZ8theist Jun 2023 #20

bottomofthehill

(9,390 posts)
2. Maybe he should have said something while cashing Trump checks as a member of the Administration
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 09:25 PM
Jun 2023

Too little Too late

kentuck

(115,406 posts)
5. It seems like a significant voice to speak out.
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 10:08 PM
Jun 2023

The enemy of my enemy is my friend-type of guy.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
13. I think so.
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 12:12 AM
Jun 2023

When the news of the indictment first hit the fan, a huge wall of denial went up all over Republicanland. Gradually, a few Republicans began to acknowledge that the things 45 has been accused of do matter. I think Chris Christie and Mitt Romney were the first. Since then, it seems like every day or so, another Republican or two, or three, will allow as how, gee golly gosh, this is some pretty serious stuff, folks. Every time that happens, it feels like a chip in that wall of denial. Some of those chips are very tiny, but each counts, imo.

When enough chips accumulate, cracks will start to appear. Those cracks will form fissures, and eventually that wall of denial will start to crumble. Every time I hear another Republican say something that even halfway indicates that in their opinion, 45's actions were sort of, not exactly great, I see that as another chip in the wall. If my theory is right, there will eventually be a breaking point, and Republicans (other than the really delusional MAGAloons) will be admitting enough masse that yes, this really IS a gravely serious matter.

I don't know how long it will take, but I think that's where things are headed. When all of the people who are running against him for the GOP nomination finally stop solemnly promising to pardon him if they are elected, that will be a really strong sign that we're getting there, imo.

None of this applies to the diehard MAGA mob, of course, but I don't think that faction is nearly as big and powerful as many still seem to assume.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
10. And where was Esper after Trump fired him and prior to 1/6/21?
Sun Jun 18, 2023, 10:49 PM
Jun 2023

He knew Trump was a shit back then but still didn't say squat before or after 1/6/21

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
14. He was fired so that...
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 12:33 AM
Jun 2023

Cultists could take over enough of the pentagon to facilitate the inaction of the national guard.

Among other things. And he knew. I do think he has given testimony to Some GJ but I don't recall when or where. But he certainly didn't speak up early enough to stop it.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
18. Indeed.
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 07:10 AM
Jun 2023

I wonder if we'll succeed in reining them in at all or if we'll have to wait for biospheric collapse, in which case it will be far too late and we'll all be dead.

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