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applegrove

(125,816 posts)
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 01:55 AM Jun 2023

If you give RFK Jr. the time of day after learning that he's advised by the biggest ratf*ckers

here, via Seth Abramson: 'FFS this explains literally everything

If you give RFK Jr. the time of day after learning that he’s advised by the biggest ratf*ckers in the MAGA cult—Steve Bannon, Michael Flynn, and Roger Stone—just admit you’re a rabid Trumpist interning with a psycho psyop collab' #RFKjr #rightwing #mikeflynn #rogerstone

RFK Jr, Mike Flynn, Roger Stone, pro Trump



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If you give RFK Jr. the time of day after learning that he's advised by the biggest ratf*ckers (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2023 OP
Plus RFK Jr has a horrible speaking voice. poli-junkie Jun 2023 #1
It's not something he can help, he has a medical condition. nt Raine Jun 2023 #5
Still, it'll hurt him. Elessar Zappa Jun 2023 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2023 #9
Hello GP6971 Jun 2023 #11
Vaccine injury? mercuryblues Jun 2023 #12
Sometimes food helps. lapucelle Jun 2023 #14
Spasmotic dysphonia isn't related to vaccines. carpetbagger Jun 2023 #15
Okie-doke... Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2023 #16
Here are the actual tweet and video with actual links. Celerity Jun 2023 #2
Kennedy is also a convicted felon. Heroin possession w/intent to distribute. littlemissmartypants Jun 2023 #3
The fact that he admitted he was considering being on Alex Jones' and Steve Bannon's podcasts wishstar Jun 2023 #4
Kennedy has messy personal history re women delisen Jun 2023 #6
He's not particularly intelligent Buckeyeblue Jun 2023 #7
Btw, what law firm does he belong to? Baitball Blogger Jun 2023 #8
Rec yardwork Jun 2023 #13
As a Democrat, Dud is running a LW class/economic populism campaign Hortensis Jun 2023 #17
RFK JR is a Bannon plant LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #18

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Celerity

(49,530 posts)
2. Here are the actual tweet and video with actual links.
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 02:07 AM
Jun 2023



RFK Jr. and His Right-Wing Allies

He’s a pawn.

https://www.thebulwark.com/a-pawn-runs-for-president-rfk-jr-and-his-right-wing-allies/



Tim Miller: Now Biden has a challenger with a famous name. But is it actually just a right-wing troll?

Sterling Archer (from Archer): Actually, that would not surprise me.

Miller: This is “Not My Party,” brought to you by The Bulwark. Polls show that many in the Democratic party wish that someone—anyone—would challenge Joe Biden for the nomination, mostly because of his age.

News anchor (voiceover): Seventy percent of Americans believe he is too old.

Yoda (Frank Oz in Return of the Jedi): When 900 years old you reach, look as good, you will not.

Joe Biden: Give a break, man.

Miller: And yet, party poohbahs have all stood by their man. But now a challenger with a legit Democratic pedigree has decided to jump in the ring: Robert F. Kennedy Jr.—that’s right, JFK’s nephew.

Leslie Knope (Amy Poehler on Parks and Recreation): American royalty!

Miller: Now there’s plenty of Kennedy progeny in politics—they are Catholic after all—but Bobby Jr., he’s a little bit different than his kin. Here’s the backstory. The son of RFK and Ethel, he was in high school when his father was assassinated. A couple years later, he made news when he was tagged by the pigs for pot possession.

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wishstar

(5,691 posts)
4. The fact that he admitted he was considering being on Alex Jones' and Steve Bannon's podcasts
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 05:33 AM
Jun 2023

until his wife said she would divorce him just shows his lack of sound judgment and his questionable character.

delisen

(6,956 posts)
6. Kennedy has messy personal history re women
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 05:48 AM
Jun 2023

I sympathize with any individual who lost a parent to violence as a child. However I do not think Kennedy has the temperament or the judgement to be a president.

Kennedy does not seem to take responsibility for his own actions.

I recall his use of the occasion of the the death of his wife by suicide to focus upon himself and use her funeral service to publicly absolve himself of any responsibility. I thought at the time that he was a very troubled individual. I have not seen anything since to make me think otherwise.

What Kennedy does have is name recognition. This is what Ralph Nader had in his run for president; Nader also welcomed Republican support.

Buckeyeblue

(5,877 posts)
7. He's not particularly intelligent
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 06:51 AM
Jun 2023

He got completely played by anti-vaxxers. But he just continues to double down on it. If he wasn't a Kennedy, if he didn't have the name recognition and resources that go with it, no one would give him the time of day. He would just be another one-celled crazy.

Baitball Blogger

(49,886 posts)
8. Btw, what law firm does he belong to?
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 08:18 AM
Jun 2023

Don’t see how a law firm committed to Democratic objectives would take him,

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. As a Democrat, Dud is running a LW class/economic populism campaign
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 11:28 AM
Jun 2023

with many RW features of fear of Big Government, LW/RW conspiracism, faux science, etc. All items flying off the shelves in this era.

WaPo, Matt Bai: ... It doesn’t surprise me at all that a Trumpian candidate would emerge inside the Democratic Party, someone trying to run for president with the same cynical mix of star power and misinformation that fueled a nationalist uprising in 2016. It was inevitable from the moment Donald Trump showed us how easy it was to unmake a party in the age of social media.

What I would not have predicted is that the Trumpian challenge on the left would be waged by someone named Kennedy. ...

Kennedy even tweeted this past week that “UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES” — his capital letters, not mine — would he agree to become Trump’s running mate, because their governing philosophies “could not be further apart.” That he felt compelled to make such a statement, however, tells you that they could be at least a little further apart. Maybe a lot.

The similarities have little to do with policy, though there is some overlap there. Rather, what makes Kennedy profoundly Trumpian is a dark strand of populism mixed with self-grandeur and self-created reality. ...

What makes Kennedy most like Trump, though, is the overlay of conspiracy and contempt that tinges nearly everything he says, the destructive distrust in the electorate he seeks to channel. ... Kennedy sketched the bleak tableau of a government wholly owned and controlled by corporations, of nefarious powers in both parties hellbent on enslaving people with bureaucratic mandates.

... Kennedy holds himself out as a bridge back to the golden age of American liberalism. But instead of “ask not what your country can do for you,” he offers a variation on the Trumpian theme of trashing government and science, while stoking fear and resentment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/15/rfk-jr-2024-campaign-trump-celebrity-conspiracy/

Of course. Like all populist leaders, only he can lead the massive reforms required to fix what's wrong with "the (hopelessly corrupt) establishment" and Democratic Party. (Everything.)
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