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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCarol Leonnig's WaPo article about DOJ delays in investigating Trump
Gifted-no paywall:
https://wapo.st/3CBeajT
She was just discussing this on MSNBC.
2naSalit
(102,780 posts)spooky3
(38,632 posts)2naSalit
(102,780 posts)Everyone should read this.
Personally, this makes Garland look really bad and he should probably resign.
Also need Wray to resign.
So who should be the next AG?
Dave says
(5,425 posts)High cowardice in action.
When someone buys into media hook line and sinker as gospel because it fits their narrative, enough so, there are calls of resignations, does that mean the MAGAS are justified as well when they do the same?
2naSalit
(102,780 posts)inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Interesting.
Scrivener7
(59,521 posts)Celerity
(54,405 posts)Wheeler has been a libertarian darling for ages and often went after Obama hard.

https://libertarianinstitute.org/author/marcy-wheeler/
https://theintercept.com/staff/marcy-wheeler/

https://newrepublic.com/article/135933/limits-obamas-drone-war-really

https://scotthorton.org/

https://www.antiwar.com/blog/author/marcy_wheeler/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/16/obama-nsa-review-group-whitewash

Scrivener7
(59,521 posts)her articles are just rehashes of stuff that isn't new. But I didn't know about her libertarian leanings.
Not surprised, though.
moreland01
(870 posts)Clinton
2naSalit
(102,780 posts)I would imagine there are several who could do the work as it should be done.
triron
(22,240 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Bev54
(13,431 posts)that subpoenas for the fake electors went out the day of the J6 committee meeting June 21, when in fact those subpoenas were issued on May 25th. The DOJ already had some of the phones of those involved in the fake electors scheme, including Rudy's phone (Sept 2021) and was disseminating it which would suggest they likely got information from it.
The investigation into Sidney Powell was also started in Sept 2021
There is a good article at Empty Wheel, scrutinizing this WaPo article.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/06/19/the-wapo-shows-there-should-be-more-scrutiny-of-steve-dantuono/
SharonClark
(10,497 posts)Im glad MSNBC is discussing it.
dalton99a
(94,113 posts)gab13by13
(32,318 posts)He said that Garland was so committed to not having a partisan DOJ like the Barr administration that he ended up bending over backwards to appeasement. Weissmann said that Garland and Monaco are sincere, honest people, but they were wrong.
Also mentioned that the FBI wasn't the problem, the buck stops with Merrick Garland.
Blistering Nicolle Wallace show, where Weissmann is explaining how important Time was in investigating Trump.
Just about everyone on Nicolle's panel agreed that the pyramid strategy wasn't just a bust, it was the problem.
Brought up again that when Garland went out of his way to not appear to be partisan, he was in fact being partisan by giving trump and his inner circle preferential treatment.
spooky3
(38,632 posts)Adam Schiff and others have said for months that they had concerns about the approach DOJ was taking. That was one of the reasons that a non insider like me was worried about the slow pace.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)for a sspecial prosecutor?
Autumn
(48,962 posts)in our government doing nothing for fear of looking partisan. The whole fucking insurrection was partisan.
Goodheart
(5,760 posts)I feel vindicated. And STILL angry.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)whathehell
(30,468 posts)with their being "white men".
Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)How many of us got scolded for pointing out that Garland was failing to act with needed urgency as our democracy teetered on brink?!
I can't really say what I truly think of Garland because I've already been warned about saying negative things about a "Democrat" (even though he's not an elected official and probably not even officially a member of the Democratic party). I get that he was appointed by a Democratic president, though, in what may well prove to be Biden's biggest mistake.
triron
(22,240 posts)Skittles
(171,704 posts)THEY TRIED TO OVERTHROW THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT
lucca18
(1,465 posts)Our democracy is hanging by a thread, and it didnt have to be this way.😢
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)to feel that way. I'm not the petty type who insists on apologies and what not, but at least reverse course or make the pivot so that we can all move forward. Garland's delay put us all in grave danger. Point blank period. We should all acknowledge that and move forward.
2naSalit
(102,780 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,392 posts)With all that was evident regarding traitor trump, it seems to me that Garland and Wray would not ignore his input.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,392 posts)I bet Joe made it clear that his first priority was to restore non-partisan justice when interviewing Garland for the AG job.
Scrivener7
(59,521 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,392 posts)My hope is the voters remember next November.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)investigations. He specifically contrasted himself with the Trump administration who did interfere
Kid Berwyn
(24,392 posts)The point being to draw information.
ETA: Thanks for the input!
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Scrivener7
(59,521 posts)The fact that this is our intelligence community is horrifying.
Thank God we finally have Jack Smith.
colorado_ufo
(6,251 posts)Scrivener7
(59,521 posts)like chickens with their heads cut off.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)the 21st century Confederacy.
It took Lincoln 4 years to defeat the Confederacy on the battlefield.
it took Garland 2 years to appoint a prosecutor.
Frankly, I think the documents case is minor compared to trying to OVERTHROW THE ELECTION and install a FASCIST DICTATOR!
Grrr.
Scrivener7
(59,521 posts)were ever going to lead them to the organizers is mind-boggling.
I don't really believe they ever DID think that. I think they thought it would be a way to avoid controversy. Enough people would buy the "pyramid" explanation that they would never have to go after the organizers and "look political." Because God forbid we allow the organizers of a coup against our democracy say those prosecuting them look political.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)When has that ever stopped the reich wing?
TrotskyistTidings
(28 posts)It was just a poor choice in boots that slowed him down.

colorado_ufo
(6,251 posts)I don't think he could have stood up to having any dissenting opinion.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)Ms Opus Dei Superspreader herself?
I agree with your point, but look at what we got instead. No-win situation due to high-roading and bi-partying.
colorado_ufo
(6,251 posts)I am not sure if Garland would have actually been better than her, and I can't stand her. I am afraid that he would not have stood up for anything.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)that illustates my point that we have to stop bending over to please the reich.
We actually lost a lot of ground during Obama. Something like a thousand State seats. We got a Republican health insurance plan in return.
moonscape
(5,722 posts)the best chance of getting a hearing, though McConnell wouldnt even allow that. If not for that, Obama would have made a different choice Im certain.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)and failure to recognize that, or the fact that running the DOJ is not the same thing as what a SC justice does, is nonsense.
I can freely criticize Garlands role in the DOJ, and still be comfortable that he would have been a fair SC justice.
I also recognize the fact that Garland did finally appoint a special counsel, the right thing, but a year later than it should have been.
FakeNoose
(41,631 posts)Thanks for the "no paywall" version.
dchill
(42,660 posts)I hope we're all real happy.
doc03
(39,086 posts)led without fear or favor. Now we find out they did not pursue any evidence of Trump and his
cronies for over a year. I say we were fed lies by the DOJ for over a year. Same thing with the documents
the DOJ slow walked that for two years. Meanwhile Trump had secret documents he could have copied or
maybe even sold to our enemies. Why haven't they searched any of his other properties except Mara Lardo?
It's like this has been purposely delayed so as not to have Trump in court until after the election.
triron
(22,240 posts)Almost like garland and Wray are complicit.
doc03
(39,086 posts)I expect the worst. But every time it turns out even worse than I ever imagined.
Scrivener7
(59,521 posts)republianmushroom
(22,324 posts)28 months and counting