missing submarine: No food or water, it's designed to dive, look around and return to surface

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

no food or water. A toilet sitting out in front of everyone. No seats or couches. They sit against the wall. They schedule the rich tourists for 5 days because many attempts are needed to dive to the Titanic.


Guy who rode on it was on the news (I didn't save the link).

Seven different ways to surface... seems that most of the technology is focused on getting it back to the surface. That's why he's worried, so many options to surface.

Had to sign waivers that explained all the ways he could die.

[question everything]

1. Is this the first time for this excursion or was it done before?

[applegrove]

2. Been going on since 2021.

[question everything]

3. Thanks.

[CentralMass]

4. It sounds like it is a very dire situation.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

16. possibly or they could be bobbing on the ocean waiting for rescue.

They need to add a rescue beacon to the thing

[Buns_of_Fire]

33. ...and considering the hatch is bolted down from the outside,

they could be bobbing in the ocean slowly dying of suffocation anyway.

[ForgedCrank]

5. This is

one of those things that just captivates people, it's a terrifying thought.
This is something I would have jumped into head-first in my younger days. But now? I've seen many of the terrible ways in which people can die, and especially how unforgiving the ocean can be, so no thanks.
Let's hope it just lost it's connection, surfaced somewhere, and is floating around waiting to be spotted, which has apparently happened before about a year ago.

[CentralMass]

21. My claustrophobia has gotten worse the older I get. I've ruled out being in tight places.

[Silent Type]

6. Hoping for best. It'd take a lot more than $250K for me to get in that small tube.

Heck, I might do it if they paid ME $5M and put me to sleep like my last colonoscopy.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

7. the people who do it are excitement junkies.

[Marthe48]

26. I'd do a tour of a reef very close to the surface

To me, subs are the most outright terrifying of all vehicles. On this tour, the living are risking their lives to see a boat that sank over 100 yearas ago? Better to visit a memorial, even if it isn't as exclusive. Or even better, look at the latest digital views of the wreck, most complete and detailed ever.

I'm hoping for the best, too.

[OAITW r.2.0]

8. The water pressure at 10,000 ft BSL is mind boggling.

One weak point on the shell and the whole structure collapses unto itself.

[Deuxcents]

9. I have mixed feelings about this being a tourist attraction

I get there are people who thrive on thrills but this is the resting place for hundreds of souls lost in a tragedy. I wish we’d let them rest in peace.

[fierywoman]

12. I totally agree.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

14. there customer base will probably drop to zero after this event

[Lancero]

25. Mount Everest is a graveyard, filled with with hundreds of bodies.

People keep climbing it year after year, using the bodies of the dead as mile markers to determine how far up they are. Every year, the mountain gets a few new mile markers.

For certain kinds of people, their is quite the allure to desecrating a graveyard. No matter how risky - or expensive - it'll be. People keep lining up to all but climb over bodies on Everest, why would this be any different? If the sub does end up coming to rest with the remains of the Titanic, well... That's just another attraction, to entertain the next group of tourists.

[roamer65]

15. A bit harder since it's international waters.

The Canadian government put a stop to any unapproved diving on the Edmund Fitzgerald. It’s a gravesite and deserving of such respect, just like the Titanic.

The Fitzgerald is in their waters of Lake Superior, so they could regulate access and they did.

[Withywindle]

19. +1

Professional missions by historians and scientists are one thing, but I don't think this should be something for tourists to gawk at. You've got documentaries, you've got the movie, let the real Titanic dead rest.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

20. It's ghoulish and disrespectful.

Those people died horribly and their final rest should be undisturbed by gawkers.

I do hope this group makes it back though.

[BannonsLiver]

28. Beyond that there's literally nothing left to know about the titanic

The story has been done to death for decades now.

[Raine]

10. I'm hoping they're all OK but from what I've heard it's a bad situation

seems really dire.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

11. 'We've been working nonstop': Diver on Titanic search

[IcyPeas]

22. The CEO of the company is on the sub. Wow.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

23. heavy hitters on the sub. CEO, worlds expert on Titantic, billionaire, another very rich guy

and his son.

[taxi]

32. There are factors not being mentioned, for obvious reasons.

Take a look at this link at this article - A Geological Study of the Titanic Shipwreck Site

https://owlcation.com/stem/The-Geology-of-The-Titanic-Shipwreck-Site#gid=ci02b76e55c00027fa&pid=the-geology-of-the-titanic-shipwreck-site

No matter if the submersible's hull remained structurally intact or not, the currents in that area of the ocean are quiet strong and could potentially transport it far from the dive site, even if it descended directly to the bottom. It is possible that it did not reach bottom and could be moving still, and at an unknown depth.

After the collision, the Titanic and its debris came to rest in the region of the North Atlantic Ocean where two major underwater currents converged. This region is near the continental shelf of Newfoundland called the Grand Banks.

The water moving through the area originates from the warm waters of the Gulf Stream which flows northward along the eastern seaboard of the eastern United States. The second current of cold water called the Western Boundary Undercurrent starts around Greenland and Labrador and flows southwesterly along the United States continental shelf. These currents are probably the reason why the debris from the sinking is scattered over such a large area, not to mention the remains sunk nearly 2.5 miles below the sea level.

The shipwreck is in a canyon surrounded by three low mountains on three sides, each rising approximately 2,000 feet from the ocean floor. The mountain west of the site is 30 miles away. The second one is 20 miles south of it, and the closest one is 17 miles north of the site.

[NutmegYankee]

13. At this point, the Navy should be checking hydrophones for any large explosion events in the area.

At those depths, a failure would likely be an immediate implosion. If it was a small leak, the sub would have reported it and enacted the emergency ascent systems.

[roamer65]

17. I would be shocked if they are still alive.

I bet it was an implosion.

[NowISeetheLight]

18. Surface

From the pictures it doesn't look like there is a sphere to eject to the surface. Some submersible are designed to drop the mechanicals and batteries to reduce weight. This thing doesn't look like that.

Even if they did surface they could be bobbing around the surface. It's a big ocean. The way they list contact could indicate an electrical issue. Does the thing have a GPS transponder or something? Navy subs have emergency boys they can launch that send out a signal on the surface.

[Liberal In Texas]

24. Being stuck in that tin can for 8 hours wouldn't appeal to me.

As much as I would like seeing the wreck of the Titanic live I wouldn't have the patience to be in that thing that long.

I once got to ride on the Fuji Blimp, a fairly large airship that even had an airplane type restroom, and once we took off the expected short ride turned longer. The wind picked up enough that the pilots didn't want to risk a landing so we got stuck "upstairs" for 8 hours flying around the city until that evening when the wind died down. Now we weren't in any danger, the cabin was comfortable it was fascinating looking down at the city from a fairly low altitude and the pilots (there were 2 Brit pilots) didn't mind our requests to fly over our houses. But it was very wearying after all day. I wouldn't do well at all in that cramped uncomfortable submersible.

Besides, how well can you see out the little port window? Watching 3D video would seem to be more satisfying.

[Autumn]

27. An amusement ride gone wrong.

[BannonsLiver]

29. I think there was a catastrophic hull failure and they all died instantly

Probably as a result of a previously undetected flaw or weak spot in the carbon fiber hull caused by fatigue. The process for detecting those faults is a little more complicated than it is for metal.

[Buckeyeblue]

30. Being that deep in the ocean would be something

But not to see the Titanic. That just seems weird. But to see the life that far deep might be more interesting than space.

[Hugin]

31. Is there any independent verification of an OceansGate vessel making a successful...

descent to the Titanic?

Asking for a friend.

[malaise]

34. Who is aboard

https://abcnews.go.com/International/missing-titanic-submersible-5-passengers/story?id=100224250