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sl8

(17,147 posts)
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 06:33 AM Jun 2023

CBS reporter's experience with the OceanGate submersible last year:

Sounds like it had comms problems for about 2.5 hours last year.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65957709

Titanic tourist submersible: What's it like on the vessel?

Published 1 hour ago
By Kathryn Armstrong & George Wright
BBC News

Two men who made the same trip in a tourist submersible that has now gone missing during a Titanic wreck dive have shared their fears over whether those stuck inside can escape.

Two men who made the same trip in a tourist submersible that has now gone missing during a Titanic wreck dive have shared their fears over whether those stuck inside can escape.

CBS correspondent David Pogue - who took the trip last year and wrote an account of it - explained to the BBC that passengers were sealed inside the main capsule by several bolts that were applied from the outside and had to be removed by an external crew.

[...]

"When the support ship is directly over the sub, they can send short text messages back and forth. Clearly those are no longer getting a response," Mr Pogue said, adding that Titan had got lost for about three hours during the expedition he was on last year.

He described being initially hesitant about going aboard the sub at all because some of the components appeared "off the shelf, sort of improvised".

[...]


======================
Comms issue at ~ 7:30



A visit to RMS Titanic

CBS Sunday Morning

Dec 20 2022

#titanic
#rmstitanic

Correspondent David Pogue joins Titanic enthusiasts who will happily pay a small fortune to ride in OceanGate's specially-designed submersible vehicle, equipped with 4K video cameras, to visit the remains of the luxury liner 13,000 feet beneath the North Atlantic (weather conditions permitting). Originally broadcast November 27, 2022.
#titanic #rmstitanic

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[...]


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CBS reporter's experience with the OceanGate submersible last year: (Original Post) sl8 Jun 2023 OP
Nope EYESORE 9001 Jun 2023 #1
And a lot more resources on board a sub MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2023 #20
Yes indeed EYESORE 9001 Jun 2023 #22
David Pogue must be thanking his "lucky stars..." NOT me. Underwater claustrophobia? No thanks hlthe2b Jun 2023 #2
Exactly! Duppers Jun 2023 #5
Steering it with an Xbox controller? UpInArms Jun 2023 #3
I thought about that, and it might not be as wacky as it sounds. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2023 #4
Well, I hope they had a whole box of them UpInArms Jun 2023 #6
"Batteries? You mean you forgot to pack the freakin' spare batteries?" nt Buns_of_Fire Jun 2023 #10
Change your sentence to, "Pay for stupid games." 3Hotdogs Jun 2023 #8
US Navy too KidContra Jun 2023 #15
welcome to DU gopiscrap Jul 2023 #24
The Navy uses XBox controllers, that's not an issue at all. sir pball Jun 2023 #23
.... CatWoman Jun 2023 #7
Is there any food/water aboard? Marthe48 Jun 2023 #9
Five years ago, it used this transponder: sl8 Jun 2023 #12
This jumped out at me Marthe48 Jun 2023 #17
If it were me aboard that submersible (and it NEVER would be)... 3catwoman3 Jun 2023 #11
"sealed inside the main capsule by several bolts that were applied from the outside" milestogo Jun 2023 #13
That's one of the (many) details that freaked me out. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2023 #14
Bet the owners are doing everything they can usedtobedemgurl Jun 2023 #16
Good luck to them on suing. They had to sign that 2 page release before the dive. Liberal In Texas Jun 2023 #18
And the company is probably a shell anyway... getagrip_already Jun 2023 #21
They called if off and came back a few times treestar Jun 2023 #19

EYESORE 9001

(29,885 posts)
1. Nope
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 06:51 AM
Jun 2023

In a previous life, I served aboard a nuclear-powered boat. It was nerve-wracking, even knowing there were over 100 trained crew members in case something happened.

EYESORE 9001

(29,885 posts)
22. Yes indeed
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 09:38 AM
Jun 2023

I came to appreciate the term ‘redundancy,’ in the sense that everything had a backup system.

hlthe2b

(114,683 posts)
2. David Pogue must be thanking his "lucky stars..." NOT me. Underwater claustrophobia? No thanks
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 06:58 AM
Jun 2023

Buns_of_Fire

(19,222 posts)
4. I thought about that, and it might not be as wacky as it sounds.
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 07:54 AM
Jun 2023

The things are built to take abuse, there's some quality control involved in the manufacture, and if you get a dud or one goes bad, you can just swap it out with another unit that'll perform exactly the same way.

3Hotdogs

(15,547 posts)
8. Change your sentence to, "Pay for stupid games."
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 08:00 AM
Jun 2023

Titanic? Mt. Everest? Elon's space ride? Fuck that.

sir pball

(5,350 posts)
23. The Navy uses XBox controllers, that's not an issue at all.
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 09:54 AM
Jun 2023

Of all the COTS (Commercial Off The Shelf) parts they're talking about, the controller is far and away the least of my worries. If the Navy sees fit to use them on the Virginia-class attack submarines, they're perfectly cromulent for a piddling little submersible.

What bugs me is the statement I read from someone who had been onboard saying *everything* is touchscreen, there's nary a physical switch in sight. Submarines get very, very wet inside if the climate control fails, five sweaty bodies in a cold metal tube, and dripping condensation does not play well with fiddly electronics…

Marthe48

(23,443 posts)
9. Is there any food/water aboard?
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 08:02 AM
Jun 2023

I wouldn't think there was much of anything, because the tour wasn't supposed to be long.

Aren't there transponders hooked to the submersible? We can track space gear even outside our Solar System. Why not have tracking mechanisms on the submersible?

sl8

(17,147 posts)
12. Five years ago, it used this transponder:
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 08:14 AM
Jun 2023
https://www.offshore-energy.biz/oceangate-and-ixblue-team-up-for-titanic-expedition/

"To communicate with Posidonia during each dive, Titan is equipped with iXblue’s MT8 compact low frequency transponder."

Marthe48

(23,443 posts)
17. This jumped out at me
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 09:10 AM
Jun 2023

“With iXblue our pilot can safely navigate around shipwrecks because we know almost exactly where we are."


3catwoman3

(29,805 posts)
11. If it were me aboard that submersible (and it NEVER would be)...
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 08:03 AM
Jun 2023

…I would rather it be lost to a catastrophic structural failure and be instantly crushed to death than to be waiting to die slowly by suffocation or dehydration.

milestogo

(23,201 posts)
13. "sealed inside the main capsule by several bolts that were applied from the outside"
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 08:26 AM
Jun 2023

extreme claustrophobia while pooping your pants

Buns_of_Fire

(19,222 posts)
14. That's one of the (many) details that freaked me out.
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 08:39 AM
Jun 2023

But then I think to myself, at 12,000 feet down, you're not going to just open a hatch and swim to the surface anyway.

usedtobedemgurl

(2,070 posts)
16. Bet the owners are doing everything they can
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 08:43 AM
Jun 2023

For a rescue. You know paying a quarter of a mill for that trip means they have more money at home. I can see loved ones suing.

Liberal In Texas

(16,425 posts)
18. Good luck to them on suing. They had to sign that 2 page release before the dive.
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 09:15 AM
Jun 2023

It says they understand they might die.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
21. And the company is probably a shell anyway...
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 09:27 AM
Jun 2023

Chances are, Every piece of equipment is leased from an independent third party, cash leaves as soon as it is acquired, and it is buried in offshore protections.

There is nothing there to sue more than likely. This isn't the white star line... (not that they had to pay out any real damages themselves).

treestar

(82,383 posts)
19. They called if off and came back a few times
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 09:20 AM
Jun 2023

thus making it look worse. They cannot return for some reason.

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