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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCBS reporter's experience with the OceanGate submersible last year:
Sounds like it had comms problems for about 2.5 hours last year.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65957709
Published 1 hour ago
By Kathryn Armstrong & George Wright
BBC News
Two men who made the same trip in a tourist submersible that has now gone missing during a Titanic wreck dive have shared their fears over whether those stuck inside can escape.
Two men who made the same trip in a tourist submersible that has now gone missing during a Titanic wreck dive have shared their fears over whether those stuck inside can escape.
CBS correspondent David Pogue - who took the trip last year and wrote an account of it - explained to the BBC that passengers were sealed inside the main capsule by several bolts that were applied from the outside and had to be removed by an external crew.
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"When the support ship is directly over the sub, they can send short text messages back and forth. Clearly those are no longer getting a response," Mr Pogue said, adding that Titan had got lost for about three hours during the expedition he was on last year.
He described being initially hesitant about going aboard the sub at all because some of the components appeared "off the shelf, sort of improvised".
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Correspondent David Pogue joins Titanic enthusiasts who will happily pay a small fortune to ride in OceanGate's specially-designed submersible vehicle, equipped with 4K video cameras, to visit the remains of the luxury liner 13,000 feet beneath the North Atlantic (weather conditions permitting). Originally broadcast November 27, 2022.
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EYESORE 9001
(29,887 posts)In a previous life, I served aboard a nuclear-powered boat. It was nerve-wracking, even knowing there were over 100 trained crew members in case something happened.
MarineCombatEngineer
(18,181 posts)as compared to this submersible.
EYESORE 9001
(29,887 posts)I came to appreciate the term redundancy, in the sense that everything had a backup system.
hlthe2b
(114,685 posts)My 1st thought: NOPE.
UpInArms
(55,366 posts)Play stupid games win stupid prizes
Buns_of_Fire
(19,222 posts)The things are built to take abuse, there's some quality control involved in the manufacture, and if you get a dud or one goes bad, you can just swap it out with another unit that'll perform exactly the same way.
UpInArms
(55,366 posts)and some good extra batteries
Buns_of_Fire
(19,222 posts)3Hotdogs
(15,547 posts)Titanic? Mt. Everest? Elon's space ride? Fuck that.
KidContra
(5 posts)gopiscrap
(24,778 posts)sir pball
(5,352 posts)Of all the COTS (Commercial Off The Shelf) parts they're talking about, the controller is far and away the least of my worries. If the Navy sees fit to use them on the Virginia-class attack submarines, they're perfectly cromulent for a piddling little submersible.
What bugs me is the statement I read from someone who had been onboard saying *everything* is touchscreen, there's nary a physical switch in sight. Submarines get very, very wet inside if the climate control fails, five sweaty bodies in a cold metal tube, and dripping condensation does not play well with fiddly electronics
Marthe48
(23,447 posts)I wouldn't think there was much of anything, because the tour wasn't supposed to be long.
Aren't there transponders hooked to the submersible? We can track space gear even outside our Solar System. Why not have tracking mechanisms on the submersible?
sl8
(17,147 posts)"To communicate with Posidonia during each dive, Titan is equipped with iXblues MT8 compact low frequency transponder."
Marthe48
(23,447 posts)With iXblue our pilot can safely navigate around shipwrecks because we know almost exactly where we are."
3catwoman3
(29,805 posts)I would rather it be lost to a catastrophic structural failure and be instantly crushed to death than to be waiting to die slowly by suffocation or dehydration.
milestogo
(23,202 posts)extreme claustrophobia while pooping your pants
Buns_of_Fire
(19,222 posts)But then I think to myself, at 12,000 feet down, you're not going to just open a hatch and swim to the surface anyway.
usedtobedemgurl
(2,071 posts)For a rescue. You know paying a quarter of a mill for that trip means they have more money at home. I can see loved ones suing.
Liberal In Texas
(16,428 posts)It says they understand they might die.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)Chances are, Every piece of equipment is leased from an independent third party, cash leaves as soon as it is acquired, and it is buried in offshore protections.
There is nothing there to sue more than likely. This isn't the white star line... (not that they had to pay out any real damages themselves).
treestar
(82,383 posts)thus making it look worse. They cannot return for some reason.
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