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Marius25

(3,213 posts)
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 02:01 PM Jun 2023

Hunter Biden cleared of criminal liability in Laptop/Ukraine "scandal"


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Let's look at the success of Republican investigations:

Benghazi - failure, found no criminality
Hillary's emails - failure
Durham report - failure
Hunter's laptop/Ukraine - failure
Biden's alleged corruption - failure

It's almost like Republicans are lying criminals who drum up fake investigations to cover up their own crimes.
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Hunter Biden cleared of criminal liability in Laptop/Ukraine "scandal" (Original Post) Marius25 Jun 2023 OP
I appreciate Katersky's amplification of cilla4progress Jun 2023 #1
Womp womp. Meadowoak Jun 2023 #2
Faux Spin NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #3
Wow. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #22
Forgive my ignorance TlalocW Jun 2023 #4
It's related to unintentionally not paying enough taxes...and nothing else. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #8
Yes because DOJ investigated his underlying sources of income that were basis of his tax liability wishstar Jun 2023 #14
But TlalocW Jun 2023 #19
From my limited understanding, in the course of Grown2Hate Jun 2023 #20
There's a large percentage of people who love being BAMBOOZLED MagickMuffin Jun 2023 #5
They NEED it... Caliman73 Jun 2023 #23
Cue The Roches! Yavin4 Jun 2023 #6
Nice - thanks for posting that! (nt) Pinback Jun 2023 #11
Amen NotVeryImportant Jun 2023 #7
Goodness knows the repugs w revive it during the election cycle onetexan Jun 2023 #9
That is too bad! imanamerican63 Jun 2023 #10
Republicans JanLip Jun 2023 #12
*Almost* Republican talking points!? Wednesdays Jun 2023 #13
that cracked me up Skittles Jun 2023 #16
This is absolutely going to tear MAGAts up Johnny2X2X Jun 2023 #15
Putting in my popcorn order now. Any special requests? niyad Jun 2023 #17
The Hunter Biden tax case ... Shoonra Jun 2023 #18
But he paid the taxes he owed, plus penalties. Grins Jun 2023 #21
A news guy on The View kept trying to make it seem ecstatic Jun 2023 #24

NowISeetheLight

(4,002 posts)
3. Faux Spin
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 02:13 PM
Jun 2023

It's big news on Faux. They're spinning it into China and laptop garbage (as we knew they would). More spin to keep the $5m (or was it $10m, they keep changing) money innuendo going.

So the real story is no laptop stuff. No money laundering. No suspicious funds. He didn't pay taxes two years. DOJ had all the "evidence" those idiots in the House were saying showed all this "possible criminal activity"... yet nothing? Wow. Imagine that. GQP Liars.

Biden has been under federal investigation since 2018. That investigation into his "tax affairs" began amid the discovery of suspicious activity reports (SARs) regarding funds from "China and other foreign nations."

Fox News first reported in 2020 that the FBI had subpoenaed a laptop and hard drive purportedly belonging to Hunter Biden in connection with a money-laundering investigation in late 2019.

ShazzieB

(22,716 posts)
22. Wow.
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 04:30 PM
Jun 2023
So the real story is no laptop stuff. No money laundering. No suspicious funds. He didn't pay taxes two years. DOJ had all the "evidence" those idiots in the House were saying showed all this "possible criminal activity"... yet nothing? Wow. Imagine that. GQP Liars.


Gym Jordan, MTG, and all their little friends in the MAGA, err, Freedom caucus must be hopping mad about this news. Here's hoping they all bust a few blood cessels over it!

TlalocW

(15,675 posts)
4. Forgive my ignorance
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 02:15 PM
Jun 2023

But was this case related to the whole Ukraine/laptop thing? I thought it was a completely different case/issue.

wishstar

(5,831 posts)
14. Yes because DOJ investigated his underlying sources of income that were basis of his tax liability
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 03:07 PM
Jun 2023

The big deal over the laptop was because it reportedly had email correspondence with his overseas clients and his business partners that rightwingers tried to conflate into false claims of serious nefarious wrongdoing, when he was receiving fees as a lawyer and consultant for some clients interested in American investment opportunities and he was paid to sit on the board of Ukraine company Burisma, none of which was illegal.

TlalocW

(15,675 posts)
19. But
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 03:51 PM
Jun 2023

How does that work into not paying taxes? Were they trying a Capone route with him?

I'm not saying that the laptop junk has any merit, but I don't want to overstate what this case means.

Grown2Hate

(2,217 posts)
20. From my limited understanding, in the course of
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 04:19 PM
Jun 2023

the "bribery/laptop" investigation, they looked into all underlying income for Hunter. They found no wrongdoing EXCEPT for the tax issues, which he's already paid back in full (again, as I understand it).

MagickMuffin

(18,341 posts)
5. There's a large percentage of people who love being BAMBOOZLED
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 02:16 PM
Jun 2023


They eat and breathe misinformation, makes them feel informed!


Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
23. They NEED it...
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 05:02 PM
Jun 2023

To make their worldview work. Like literally, they require "enemies" who are caricatures. Reality does not generally comport to the ideas of Conservatives. They see themselves as victims, and they actually are, but of their own leadership, who wants to use them for votes and activism, but generally create policies that hurt all except the wealthy.

So, the right wing leaders give them these "boogeymen" to rail against. "The Clinton Crime Family", "The Biden Crime Family", "Michelle Obama and her well toned arms and gardening" actual people who want to use the power of government to expand opportunities for people like them and us. It is easier for them to believe in some nefarious plot, than to simply understand that Conservatism is about hierarchy and only those at the top actually benefit while the rest of us have to struggle to make ends meet.

They literally need to delude themselves into thinking that the wealthy give a damn about them.

JanLip

(862 posts)
12. Republicans
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 02:58 PM
Jun 2023

Know full well there’s no truth in their so called investigations but they do it anyway because they know their stupid followers will believe it hook line and sinker. Liars the lot of them.

Jan

Wednesdays

(22,825 posts)
13. *Almost* Republican talking points!?
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 03:02 PM
Jun 2023

I guess that means Republicans have been talking about it *almost* 24/7/365.

Skittles

(172,172 posts)
16. that cracked me up
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 03:12 PM
Jun 2023

Hunter IS a talking point, and his exoneration will mean NOTHING to the because FACTS DON'T MATTER with the GOP

Shoonra

(602 posts)
18. The Hunter Biden tax case ...
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 03:49 PM
Jun 2023

This settlement of the tax case (not yet a settlement of the firearms case) is not unusual with IRS cases. Altho the case originally sounds as a criminal case, the IRS is really interested in collecting the money and it knows that it won't get much if the defendant is locked up, so a settlement involving payment (possibly of a negotiated amount) is sufficient and the criminal aspect of the case vanishes.

This sort of thing is fairly common and doesn't indicate something special just for a President's son.

Grins

(9,477 posts)
21. But he paid the taxes he owed, plus penalties.
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 04:22 PM
Jun 2023

So this is more the penalty for deliberately paying late. But the IRS ultimately got the money they were owed so they have no dog in this fight.

The court is going to see that and just be done with it. All of it predicted….

ecstatic

(35,088 posts)
24. A news guy on The View kept trying to make it seem
Tue Jun 20, 2023, 05:08 PM
Jun 2023

like Hunter did a lot wrong but the stuff he cited seemed like nothing burgers. The alleged crimes centered around him working jobs he was unqualified for. A lot of people are criminals then. lol. But seriously, it's not like he's a bum off the street. Isn't he an ivy league school educated attorney? Yes, he probably also benefitted from his ability to claim Biden as his dad, but again, join the club. A lot of rich folks would have to resign if nepotism / "who you know" employment relationships were illegal. Let's not even get started on the Jared / Ivanka hypocrisy. It's funny how they're trying to be as quiet as possible during all of this. lol.

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