Submarine ceo fired the safety guy for talking too much about safety

[Demovictory9]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12215003/OceanGate-REFUSED-independent-inspection-missing-sub-fired-worker-raised-safety-concerns.html

David Lochridge was fired after he raised concerns about Titan's safety

OceanGate also refused to have the vessel 'classed' by an independent organization that would ensure it met accepted technical standards

ensure vessels like ships and submersibles meet industry-wide technical standards. It is a crucial way of ensuring a vessel is fit to operate.

In a blog post titled 'Why Isn't Titan Classed?', OceanGate suggested classification would take too long.

The post said: 'While classing agencies are willing to pursue the certification of new and innovative designs and ideas, they often have a multi-year approval cycle due to a lack of pre-existing standards…

'Bringing an outside entity up to speed on every innovation before it is put into real-world testing is anathema to rapid innovation.'

The company said its 'innovations' included a real-time (RTM) hull health monitoring system which is 'not currently covered by any classing agency'.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. That ceo may regret his firing. Safety should be #1 priority, esp. on such a vessel. nt

[Demovictory9]

5. CEO is on missing sub

[sarisataka]

12. He may regret it

To his grave...

[LetMyPeopleVote]

2. That inspires confidence and will be used in any upcoming litigation

[Demovictory9]

6. Tourists signed waivers explaining death risk

[NoRethugFriends]

11. Sorry, no sympathy. Rich people throwing out money for cheap thrills.

[malaise]

23. Not cheap thrills

They just want stuff to brag about that the rest of us will never experience.

[leftieNanner]

32. My husband used to work in the safety and health biz

You can't sign away your rights if there is negligence.

Firing the safety guy sounds like just that.

[edhopper]

38. Wavers are meaningless

if their was gross negligence.

[TheBlackAdder]

41. While they signed a waiver, I don't think that covers gross negligence. I may be wrong.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

59. A release is only valid if there is full disclosure

One cannot release issues that are know to the company but not disclosed. I wonder if the company disclosed this

Link to tweet

[maxrandb]

3. I am surprised the Navy hasn't given him a shit ton of money to build submarines

Like we've given E-loon a shit ton of money to replace NASA.

Just another rich kid that people think is a fucking genius.

[NutmegYankee]

7. Any Navy vessel would be required to be designed under NAVSEA SS800-AG-MAN-010/P-9290

SYSTEM CERTIFICATION PROCEDURES AND CRITERIA MANUAL FOR DEEP SUBMERGENCE SYSTEMS, NAVSEA SS800-AG-MAN-010/P-9290

That piece of junk wouldn't even be considered.

[Recycle_Guru]

4. like I said, fruits of unrestrained capitalism

[dalton99a]

8. Super rich people don't need no safety regulations

They are immune

[democratsruletheday]

20. meh

we'll have to see about that...not looking good

[bronxiteforever]

44. +1 true that!!!

[James48]

9. Darwin Award goes to....

The ones at the bottom of the sea.

They won’t do that again, now will they?

[3Hotdogs]

14. They only get the Darwin Award if they ain't got no kids. If they got kids,

they get the Darwin "Honorary Mention."

[treestar]

17. One of them took his kid with him

19 year old, but his offspring. That's how you prove Darwin right.

[madinmaryland]

31. Would that be a double Darwin Award? He wiped out his and his son's chance

Of extending the family line. Sad.

[3Hotdogs]

58. I guess so

Double D

[obamanut2012]

10. JFC the CEO's estate is gonna be zeroed out by lawsuits

[tanyev]

13. Not a good plan when your customers' estates are wealthy enough to sue you into oblivion.

[2naSalit]

15. +1

[Captain Zero]

25. saw on reddit that a stepson of the ceo was still using his blink182 tickets last night

Because he thought his step-dad would want him to use them.

He was like 'trapped for hours in his mini sub'? uh, meh.
It was a funny thread.

I guess blink has a song titled 'Bottom of the Ocean'. or Something like that.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

16. Unproven and uncertified equipment at depth

Is “anathema” to survival.

[Fullduplexxx]

18. I've heard everything''s better down where it's wetter...

[ToxMarz]

19. The "move fast and break things" mantra is all good and well

until you're at the bottom of the Ocean when it breaks and no one can help you because you side stepped everyone who might be able to in favor of expediency (which is a kind way of saying profits).

Speaking of which, where's Musk's rescue submarine now.

[AverageOldGuy]

21. The guy who built the submersible was interviewed . . .

. . . and he said "After a certain point, safety is a waste."
https://www.insider.com/missing-titanic-sub-ceo-told-reporter-safety-pure-waste-2023-6

He is one of the five on board.

Karma.

[Warpy]

22. Seems like he might have killed 2 rich guys and a rich guy's son

so you can bet he's going to be sued into a cardboard box under an overpass somewhere.

Those waivers aren't going to be worth the paper they're on when this is considered by any court.

[Kaleva]

24. He's dead Jim

[Captain Zero]

26. I'm not dead yet!!

'well,,he soon will be!',

I suppose. Officially anyway.

[Warpy]

27. He went down with the ship? Even better.

I love it when these bastards face the consequences, personally.

It really does look like a rinky-dink operation, the kind of bells and whistles that impress rich guys covering up shit engineering.

I'm thinking the thing imploded since the distress beacon wasn't activated. That thing should have worked if the power failed. Then again, considering how this company was run, maybe not.

[NH Ethylene]

49. I'm not rooting for anyone to be dead.

But if 5 people have to be dead, I'm glad it includes some who are responsible for the safety failures of the sub.

[Warpy]

56. Well, if by some miracle they lived through it and are rescued

I have a feeling Mr. CEO is going to try to get that safety expert back.

Or maybe he'll just decide the trip is too risky for himself.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

28. You grab the tricordor and I'll grab his wallet.

Something I saw in a Mad Magazine decades ago.

[markodochartaigh]

46. One time I was on the code team and we were called to the

hospital lobby. As we lowered the patient to the floor to begin coding him a lady ran up and reached around him with both arms. I thought she was his wife come to give him one last hug, so we held him there just a second. She pulled his wallet out of his back pocket and ran off while we coded him.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

48. Wow!!!!

That had to be quite the experience, someone pickpocketing a coding patient.

[markodochartaigh]

55. It was surprising but the only thing to be done

was to tell security when they got there. The whole 30 years at the hospital was an experience.

[MontanaMama]

47. I shouldn't laugh at that but

I did.

[sarisataka]

29. No, he will be in a titanium and carbon fiber box

At the bottom of the Atlantic. He is on board the submersible.

[AZ8theist]

36. Some future company...

...will offer rides to go see the sub at the bottom of the Atlantic....

[sarisataka]

39. Sadly, it is all too easy

To picture that coming true

[Dr. Strange]

42. I think you just came up with a plotline for the next season of Black Mirror.

[Botany]

30. Hopefully the people on board the craft died quickly because I don't see any rescue before ....

... tomorrow in the AM when the O2 runs out. Those poor rich bastards if they are still alive they would be in a very
dark and a very cold vessel 2.4 miles beneath the surface. I hope I'm wrong but even if one of our subs finds the
craft and just hooking it up to get it to the surface would be a very hard thing to do.

[republianmushroom]

33. Submarine ceo fired the safety guy for talking too much about safety, Oh, snap.

[yonder]

34. Hubris kills

[Roc2020]

35. They may have made their own casket

a hard eternal lesson

[IcyPeas]

37. I'm trying to imagine the conversation (assuming they didnt implode and die immediately)...

The moment they knew they were in trouble with no means of communication, no water, no food, no toilet, no nothing. Just each other. Losing hope every minute. It's like being buried alive which is one of my worst nightmares.

Sounds like a twilight zone scenario.

[LisaL]

45. My guess it imploded and they died quickly.

NT

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

53. they have a toilet. no privacy to use it.

[ShazzieB]

40. Info on all the people who are on board the submersible

https://people.com/missing-titanic-submarine-all-about-the-passengers-7550485

[sky_masterson]

43. I can see that thing slowly deteriorating from the changes in pressure

Might make it up and down fifty times but like bending a spoon back and forth, eventually the spoon will snap.
Arrogance and negligence killed those people. (Disclaimer: Disregard if Aliens or Sea Monsters are involved)

[Disaffected]

50. Sure, that can happen to pressurised aircraft as well.

after a large number of take-offs and landings. It's called flex fatigue, as you say, just like repeatedly bending a spoon.

[Blue Streak Science]

51. He's been under a lot of pressure lately.

[Kaleva]

54. Like the weight of 35 elephants on his shoulders

[Raine]

52. I can't say I'm surprised

seems this kind of thing is the reason behind so many disasters.

[Initech]

57. What could possibly go wrong?

[Midnight Writer]

60. Like firing your doctor for recommending vaccines.

[DemocraticPatriot]

61. Every MAGAt should build their own submarine....

[rictofen]

62. The Daily Mail has expert knowledge in this matter

They're also lower than whale shit.

[rictofen]

63. Here's another DM article about this

The now-missing CEO of a company that takes passengers onboard a submersible to see the site of the Titanic wreckage once told how he refused to hire '50-year-old white guys' with military expertise because they are not 'inspirational.'

Stockton Rush added in that interview with Teledyne Marine that expertise is not necessary because 'anybody can drive the sub' with just a $30 video game controller.

In another interview, Rush insisted the Cyclops vessel he designed before the doomed Titan was 'invulnerable,' saying he was willing to 'put my money where my mouth is.'

Rush, the 61-year-old CEO of OceanGate Expeditions, is now missing onboard his Titan ship along with four other passengers, including British billionaire Hamish Harding, French Titanic expert Paul-Henry Nargeolet and Shahzada Dawood, a UK-based board member of the Prince's Trust charity, along with his son Sulaiman Dawood.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12219265/Stockton-Rush-said-didnt-hire-50-year-old-white-guys-NOT-inspirational.html